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spokeshave

11/17/02 8:40 PM

#2583 RE: Elmer Phud #2581

Elmer: I have looked pretty closely at the Intel site, and cannot find a difference between big "E" and little "e". The only 850"E" listed is big "E". I submit that the little "e" in the tests was a typo, and both chips used the same platform.

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wbmw

11/17/02 8:51 PM

#2584 RE: Elmer Phud #2581

Elmer, I agree with Spokeshave. Extremetech tested the 3.06GHz and 2.8GHz processor using the exact same platform. The question is why did they get degradation in performance without Hyperthreading enabled, when the other reviews did not.

One possibility is margin for error, and Winstone is particularly notorious for producing different results from one test run to the next. Another possibility is a misprint in the article that was not caught by the editors. When you have dozens of test results, it's easy to mix them up. Yet a third explanation is an error with testing, where maybe they forgot to disable a background process during one of their tests, and a fourth explanation is that maybe their processor did indeed throttle back, causing a loss of a couple percentage points of performance.

The question is whether this anomaly presents a problem for Intel in selling this new chip. I don't believe there is, and I think dwelling on the possibility of throttling out of all the others is a waste of time. Unless scores are being drastically reduced due to throttling on multiple applications, I don't see any reason to be concerned over it. Spokeshave seems to have a concern, but that's his problem. I have argued it from my perspective, but at this point, he will either fight it to the end, or admit that his concern is unfounded. Whatever is his choice, given the facts, I don't see the point of debating it further.

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