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arthritis65

12/30/04 5:40 PM

#88442 RE: JohnSamuel #88441

thanks John..you just made a bunch of folks unhappy...
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3GDollars

12/30/04 5:42 PM

#88443 RE: JohnSamuel #88441

Don't think so. But they do have to be sold for this year tax purpose.

It is his opinion that the shares HAD to be sold by the 31st or they expired...

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captainslog

12/30/04 5:43 PM

#88444 RE: JohnSamuel #88441

John,

How did he know they would expire? What information is your broker working off of?
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e5oo

12/30/04 5:50 PM

#88449 RE: JohnSamuel #88441

thank you. g
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rmarchma

12/30/04 5:56 PM

#88453 RE: JohnSamuel #88441

JohnSamuel re expiring options

Your broker is correct about Goldberg's sale being from expiring options, which were exercised earlier in the year. However, either your broker or the Form 4 is wrong about Rip's shares having to be sold. The Form 4 indicates that Rip exercised on 23,831 options, which had an expiration date of Nov. 10, 2006. Therefore, Rip's exercised options were not due to expire until almost two years from now according to the Form 4. Rip sold 17,831 of the exercised shares, but kept 6,000 of the exercised shares. BTW it's great to see you back!







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spider69

12/31/04 8:48 AM

#88562 RE: JohnSamuel #88441

John Samuel...thanks for the note....as USUAL people are jumping up and down about insider sales, HOWEVER, as usual this will probably be perceived as a negative and we will prossibly go down today. It doesn't matter to me, yep I might be able to buy back those couple thousand trading shares I sold a month ago at 21 (with hopes of getting them back at 17)but my core holdings aren't going anywhere..right worng or otherwise we have all seen this happen many times before...learn from it...