Thank you jonr for your reply and I also want be more simple. Some of the things I have mentioned are things I like anyway or have recently learned from the site. If your are interested I am watching the Diver on the MACD 3 10 16 hist. 5 min. from the almost double top. That would be an aid to a possible short NERS. Todays thin vol. is a bit of a thing , but that is the way it is. I might go out for a little while and come back for the pre FED. sb