Replies to post #7905 on VMC SURVEY BOARD (VMSB)

[woofer]

ishmael, here is where I disagree with you.

I have no doubt of a general conspiracy, but i believe by focusing on totally unprovable 9/11 allegations....

I think many of the allegations are provable, at least from a scientific standpoint they are.

I would love to know what was in the energy hearings as well, but even if we knew what was in them, it wouldn't be enough to throw these men in jail. The only way I think it's possible to do this is to prove that 9/11 was carried out by some members of our government (or were instrumental in having it carried out at the very least). They have gotten away with everything else so far, but I don't think the public would be complacent about 9/11, if they knew the whole story....or part of the story.

"selfishness"?- I was going to use the word "Selfish" as a 'stand alone' characterization before, in regard to what you are referring to, so we are in perfect agreement. I thought better of it though. I probably don't feel as comfortable as you yet. ;-)

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I agree with you to a point. But 911 is a much more brazen attempt at a whitewash than Kennedy. The scale is so much bigger. You're right, I can't tell you with certainty what happened, but I can tell you with certainty what didn't happen.

If we didn't have two sides of the same coin in office, we could get to the truth. Cheney's energy summit would be a good place to start.

As far as Gilead, I'm always open to listening to other points of view as long as they're not dogma. And, he's a pretty good debater, imo......helps sharpen my skills and gives me opportunities to manage my temper, lol. The debate also provides an opportunity to test my views. Ideas, in a vacuum, aren't worth much.