Replies to post #19285 on Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[HailMary]

I agree that servers should be benchmarked as they are sold, rather than as they can be tweaked.

Does anyone know what system Ace's started with? Perhaps they are getting pre-release hardware, in which case I think tweaking is fair game, although the results are going to hold little value other than showing what is maybe possible. If this is hardware that is released and being sold now, then I agree it should be tested as is. Probably the best thing is for Ace's to wait until this platform has had a few rounds of official release before testing. I'll wait for the official review to draw my own conclusions.

HailMary

[KeithDust2000]

wbmw, And that, of course, is why so many people are questioning what reason Ace's would have for benchmarking a tweaked server

All officially published benchmarks coming from Dell, INTEL, HP etc. were performed under the most optimal conditions - for bragging rights, and to show the potential of their technology. Do you think they´d use an underperforming BIOS, or use sub-optimal BIOS settings just because that´s how they´d be (conservatively) configured when you bought it today from a shop? They know their technology much better than Johan does. They even use software AND hardware that isn´t available when they publish the results. Johan doesn´t want to sell a particular server model. Ace´s reviews show what´s possible with the architectures [ALL ARCHITECTURES], and the "tweaks", whatever they may turn out to be, are not even close to what INTEL etc. do when they release results. And it´s pretty clear that Johan has more to learn about a new server architecture in a so far untested configuration than about XEON´s he has tested for years. He has known how to optimally configure DP Xeons for a long time.

The people you´re talking about are trying to downplay benchmark results in advance of having seen the review, without having the slightest idea what has actually been done. It´s so obvious what that is about, it´s not even funny.

catering to their AMD aligned audience

That´s what it looks like to you? To me, it looks like for each AMD supporting post, there´s a reply from the INTEL supporting posters including yourself, chipguy, Alberto, waitress in gaza etc.