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VivaLasVegas

10/27/17 10:52 AM

#75355 RE: cottonisking #75354

Are you saying we got PAID?
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VivaLasVegas

10/27/17 11:08 AM

#75357 RE: cottonisking #75354

KingCotton: Regarding the WATERFALL specifics?

Update - Waterfall II Application - Parts A & B – Appeal Judgment – 24 October 2017


On 24 October 2017, the Court of Appeal handed down its judgment in respect of the appeals of various issues across Waterfall II Parts A & B, following the hearing of 3 – 12 April 2017 and the supplemental hearing on 25 July 2017.  See the Administrators’ previous announcements in relation to the Waterfall II A and B appeals here and here.  A copy of the Court of Appeal’s judgment is available here.
In summary, the Court of Appeal dismissed the appeals in respect of all issues that fell for determination, such that: 
statutory interest is not to be calculated on a Bower v Marris basis (i.e. with dividends being first allocated to the reduction of statutory interest and then to the payment of principal);
where the relevant rate of statutory interest to be applied under Rule 2.88(9) of the Insolvency Rules 1986 (“IR 1986”) is the “rate applicable to the debt apart from the administration”, and such a rate is a compounding rate, statutory interest does not continue to compound following the payment in full of the principal amount through dividend;
creditors are not entitled to further interest, damages, or any other form of compensation in respect of the time taken for statutory interest to be paid;
statutory interest payable in respect of an admitted provable debt which was a contingent debt as at the date of administration is payable from the date of administration;
the “rate applicable to the debt apart from the administration” in Rule 2.88(9) IR 1986 cannot include a foreign judgment rate of interest applicable to a foreign judgment obtained after the date of administration or a foreign judgment rate of interest which would have become applicable to the debt if the creditor had obtained a foreign judgment, when it did not in fact do so; and
the words “rate applicable to the debt apart from the administration” in Rule 2.88(9) IR 1986 do include, in the case of a provable debt that is close-out sum under a contract, a contractual rate of interest that began to accrue only after the close-out sum became due and payable due to action taken by the creditor after the date of the commencement of LBIE’s administration.
As agreed by the parties, in light of the judgment of the Supreme Court on Waterfall I (see here for the relevant update), all other issues that were appealed were dismissed without determination.
Should you have any queries regarding this update, please contact LBIE’s Communications and Counterparty Management team at generalqueries@lbia-eu.com.
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SwissCheeseAccount

10/27/17 12:18 PM

#75358 RE: cottonisking #75354

hey cotton, not too long ago you said we might not see some cheese until 2020, after finding this out do you still believe that or sooner?
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zulual

10/28/17 10:52 AM

#75359 RE: cottonisking #75354

Dec 7, 2017? Is this the day we will receive some distribution? Tia
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cottonisking

10/28/17 1:04 PM

#75360 RE: cottonisking #75354

If the UK ECAPS were due for a payment before March 30, 2018, the Debtors could pay LBHI's TRuPS back interest in December 2017 to allow for a legal UK ECAPS payment before March 30, 2018. However, that would be like waiting for North Korea to destroy their own nukes!

1)Dated: 23 June 2017 + 6 months = 23 December 2017

Another notice for UK ECAPS are due soon!

2)LBIE held a conference call on October 26, 2017.

Update - Waterfall II Application - Parts A & B – Appeal Judgment – 24 October 2017

General update - Lehman Brothers International (Europe) - In Administration ("LBIE") – 26 October 2017 Joint Administrators' Update Call – 18 October 2017


https://www.pwc.co.uk/services/business-recovery/administrations/lehman.html



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"SOURCE: Lehman Brothers UK Capital Funding IV LP
June 23, 2017 07:00 ET

Lehman Brothers UK Capital Funding LP: Notice to Holders of Preferred Securities
LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM--(Marketwired - Jun 23, 2017) - Lehman Brothers UK Capital Funding LP (LSE: 41YF)
LSE : 41YF
NOTICE TO THE HOLDERS OF:
EUR 200,000,000 EURO FIXED RATE ENHANCED CAPITAL ADVANTAGED PREFERRED SECURITIES ("LP IV ECAPS")
ISSUER: LEHMAN BROTHERS UK CAPITAL FUNDING IV LP ("LP IV")
ISIN: XS0282978666
LIQUIDATION OF LB GP NO.1 LTD ("the Company") AND IMPLICATIONS FOR HOLDERS OF LP IV ECAPS
THIS NOTICE CONTAINS IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT IS OF INTEREST TO THE REGISTERED AND BENEFICIAL OWNERS OF THE SUBJECT SECURITIES. IF APPLICABLE, ALL DEPOSITORIES, CUSTODIANS AND OTHER INTERMEDIARIES RECEIVING THIS NOTICE ARE REQUESTED TO EXPEDITE THE RE-TRANSMITTAL TO BENEFICIAL OWNERS OF THE SECURITIES IN A TIMELY MANNER.
Your attention is drawn to the formal notice contained in the PDF link below concerning the Company, LP IV and the LP IV ECAPS. In order to view the formal notice, it is recommended that you copy and paste the link into your browser.
http://www.rns-pdf.londonstockexchange.com/rns/9507I_1-2017-6-22.pdf
If you have any difficulties in opening the link, please contact Samantha Hawkins at RSM Restructuring Advisory LLP by e-mail: Samantha.Hawkins@rsmuk.com.
Dated: 23 June 2017
This notice is given by
Bruce Alexander Mackay
RSM Restructuring Advisory LLP
as Joint Liquidator of LB GP No.1 Ltd"



http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/lehman-brothers-uk-capital-funding-lp-notice-to-holders-of-preferred-securities-lse-41yf-2223476.htm