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drrc1949

11/23/14 11:44 AM

#39211 RE: jessellivermore #39206

JL, nice, very clear, very clean, slick metaphors......you have been working!
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jessellivermore

11/23/14 11:51 AM

#39212 RE: jessellivermore #39206

Dear FF..

You brought up acute pancreatitis as being caused by drinking alcohol, gall stones, and high trigs being the cause of pancreatitis, and state inflammation is a "symptom" of pancreatitis, and not the disease..

Sorry, but you are mistaken in this example. "Acute Pancreatitis" literally means, sudden inflammation of the pancreas. The suffix "itis" means it is an inflammatory disease (disorder), and acute means over a short period of time. The damage to the pancreas is related to proteolytic enzymes being released into the soft tissues and triggering an enormous inflammatory response. It is this inflammatory response that creates the symptoms of acute pancreatitis, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and possibly peritonitis..and most of the damage to the pancreas.

":>) JL
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FishyFingers

11/23/14 8:28 PM

#39219 RE: jessellivermore #39206

JL,

Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

I see my original post to which you replied has been deleted.

Can someone please explain to me why? Is this some private club like the FDA? My post was 100% valid. Why the censorship?

CV disease is the worlds number 1 killer and the pathology of the disease has no merit for discussion? Pathetic.

I agree with much of what you say about inflammation. You are however hacking at the branches rather than focusing on the root of the issue.

In your forest fire analogy you say "it was the fire that did the damage" dismissing the source of the fire as a mere fluctuating variable. There has to be a reason for the inflammation in the first place. It doesnt just spontaneously manifest. There has to be an underlying reason as to why the thermostat is set too high.

You talk about AA levels being high. Ok, thats a start, but you are still hacking at the branches. Why are AA levels high? What is causing the damage to the arteries? You touch on it when you say "there is other confirming evidence that diet effects inflammation". What about smoking? What about the excess levels of omega 6 in our diet? Trans fats? What about all the toxins we injest? What about free radicals? Heart disease is a degenerative disease, the result of decades worth of persistent damage.

Benjamin Flanklin used to say "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".

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sts66

11/24/14 2:36 PM

#39235 RE: jessellivermore #39206

The derivation of the term inflammation is actually closer to "in flame", or "on fire"..... Inflammation is the fire.

Quite so - old latin term incorporated into ancient Chinese and Indian ayurvedic medicine - they use the term "heat in the organs" to describe certain medical conditions and techniques/herbs to remove the damaging heat (acupuncture meridians and/or pressure points). Several of my therapists focus on removing heat from overstressed organs, and during a session if they go too fast too hard I will literally break out in a sweat, not good.

An herbalist suggested I try two ayurvedic supplements to help control inflammation/build up of heat in my GI related organs, and this one works spectacularly:

http://www.banyanbotanicals.com/shop/category/herbal-tablets/amalaki-tablets-10

Amalaki is a potent rejuvenative that nourishes the tissues and gently removes natural toxins. It is generally taken in place of Triphala by those with excess heat in the digestive tract. Amalaki's cooling action removes excess pitta from the GI tract, supporting a healthy stomach lining and the proper function of digestive acids. It also cleanses the colon, eliminating excess toxins and heat while supporting healthy bowel movements. Amalaki is a highly concentrated source of antioxidants and is deeply nourishing to the body tissues. It promotes healthy eyes, bones, blood, teeth, hair and nails while supporting the proper function of the liver, spleen, pancreas, heart and lungs.

When I'm toxic, doing chores tends to lead to severe overheating, especially if the physical exertion levels are high - sometimes I have to change out of my soaked clothes to continue (there are toxins in the sweat, need to get them off else they'll be reabsorbed) - when it gets bad, I'll take a second dose of Amalaki and within 1/2 hr I'll actually be cold - that's how well it works for me - YMMV of course.


And finally..yes, inflammation is not all bad and is necessary for our survival in a hostile environment.


That's the delicate balancing act I tread daily - all reactions are not necessarily bad ones, so clamping down the body's attempts to heal itself the way it was designed to do can be counterproductive. But V has made a huge difference in managing "heat" and general systemic inflammation, don't have to scramble for solutions like I used to when in crisis mode.