About time alright, why did they have to wait so long. I remember in the old days of July 1996, when I first started to get interested in floorless financing trying to understand Arakis travails. About two years later I penned this post #reply-5368910 (Principia Floorlesstica" <g>). I think I tried to keep people out of at least 40 floorless situations over the years, but I no longer actively follow these bandits. You'd think investors will learn, but no, sometimes the hold hopping that a :White Knight" will come to the rescue, never.