dave, dave, dave, you're going a little over the edge friend. there really is no need to be so defensive. this is a place to debate ideas intelligently. you have to admit that ecnc allows plenty of opportunity to have differing opinions. if you do not want to openly discuss the issues, perhaps this is the wrong thread for you. i always thought that you were a pretty good guy so maybe general market conditions are getting to you like they are to most of us. or maybe like chicago, you just have to much freakin snow in iowa. either way, please relax and enjoy the company.