lol....listen columbo..with all due respect, stick to cutting hair. no agenda here or trying to deter anyone...just stating facts. the info i put forth are facts that anyone can look up or the post is followed by..jmop. why not answer my question that i have asked of you!!! you wanted numbers i showed you numbers. steve has said numerous times that he has sold shares to create income for the company. he certainty cant pay bills or have paid for the uplist with revs...we have very little of that. glen..we have spoke a few times on the cc and disagress even more...but honestly, you are starting to sound a little crazy defending this guy. i know he is your friend and you believe in him..thats great. he has done nothing for shareholders in form of creating value in the stock price..just down spiraling of the stock price. i listen to last cc or maybe it was the one before..in steves own words he said this had been a learning experience for him. i really dont want someone using my money for a learning experience and what makes you think you will get it right, which he hasn't hense the pps. i should have gave tthis process to someone else to handle and maybe get a ceo to run the business end of the company and let him run the mag. steve sounds like a very smart guy but if i had to give a report card on performance it would be a D. A for effort though. he has tried to get it right but has failed on everything going all the way back to fountain capital group. if you ask me, timber creek is a mistake also. have you gone to the website. not to impressed with what i see. anyway i can go on and on, you know that. you believe in him..i dont and only because of the stocks performance. words speak louder then words...and he can talk, but his actions have done nothing for sharholders except give us false hope and heartache. you all will be and are the exact defintion of BAG HOLDERS. sorry but thats jmop.