chris, i couldn't agree more. also let me add that if what rogel is doing is not a direct violation of reg. f.d. then it is an attemt to skirt around it. either tom hughes approves of what rogel is doing and is a foolish accomplice in trying to prop up the price or rogel is doing this against toms' wishes in order to increase the value of his own considerable holdings. either scenario is reprehensible. these guys never learn. or is it us?