What sarcastic put downs? I said that it was cutting-edge due diligence. No one else on this forum could have found that gem. I'm serious. That find would make any reasonable investor want to go buy more shares of Validian. There is nowhere else in the investing world where you could learn about those trades except the Hub. Well...nowhere else except HTTP://whalewisdom.com. Like I said... cutting-edge due diligence. TPP