Thanks TC, I've been told that, but HP made this computer and set the home page to theirs, that's what confused me. Now is there a way to check on the old box if I actually have it there? <br /> <br /> Had all those programs on the old box and will install them on the new one. I had to keep it lean and mean LOL. I'll use the Norton until it expires then uninstall it and use AVG, Spybot etc. <br /> <br /> Geez, I think it's about six years since I talked to you on S.I. Do you think Vista is going to help with all these problems of security, viruses, malware, adware etc? Having started with punch cards, I think I might be a little long in the tooth to start using Linux.