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FesteringWound • 5 hours ago
Isn't it clever how the same leftists who STILL maintain Trump colluded with Russia... some saying since as early as 1989.... are the same ones insisting this couldn't have been anything other than suicide. And anyone who says otherwise is a lunatic conspiracy theorist.
Really?
Green-Eyed Lady FesteringWound • 5 hours ago • edited
Exactly... Here’s a list of “inconsistencies” from the Benghazi attack... Here’s a list of “inconsistencies” from the IRS scandal investigation... Heres a list of “inconsistencies” from the Hillary Clinton email investigation... Here’s a list of “inconsistencies” from the Trump coup attempt investigation... here’s a list of “inconsistencies” from how the FBI/DOJ treated General Mike Flynn... Same excrement, different day.
Jimmy Jones Green-Eyed Lady • 4 hours ago
If Deep State Marco says it then we know its BS.
Burlington Green-Eyed Lady • 4 hours ago
The hyoid bone is a small bone like a wishbone, easily felt, just above the Adam's apple. This is often broken when an elderly person is strangled. The WaPo refers to this as a "broken neck". This is not a BROKEN NECK! The cover up has begun.
BirdilyWarmth Burlington • 44 minutes ago
Right, I saw the same articles. Also before fingerprints the most common ways of identifying people were ear, nose and eye shape and distance from each other. This was fairly reliable, but fingerprints proved more so and it was abandoned. In this case though you can clearly see that his nose shape is very different, as is the more reliable ear shape (which rarely changes over time, whereas a nose can be broken). That isn't Jeffrey Epstein's body. This shows the disregard the left have for our system that they either offed him (unlikely) or freed him (to go where I have no idea). The left attack all that is good in America: the police, school choice, and 24/7 since he announced his run...President Trump. They even openly call for an invasion of the USA and for giving the invaders free stuff, and they spied on actual Americans in an effort to bring down POTUS. Dan Bongino guest hosted for Hannity the other day, and he has a really stacked video out today about all of that. It is up at Whatfinger News (which replaced Drudge for me when I noticed he links to mostly leftwing sites; make sure to check it out), near the top, on the right and in red. And if you've never seen the 1944 movie 'Gaslight' then watch that, because the Democrats are trying to do that to us! Notice that we still don't even know exactly what happened in Las Vegas (several people claimed to see shots from different locations, and there is video which appears to prove that). But more and more stories come out and we forget because we become overloaded with tragedy. Epstein will eventually become like D.B. Cooper, another unsolved case.
Dontazemebro Burlington • 4 hours ago
The WaPo reporting it as a broken neck doesn't necessarily mean they are in on the cover-up. It could just be a case of ignorance and stupidity on the part of the reporter. Journalists aren't as smart or informed as they would have us believe. I think many of them are intellectually lazy.
bobdog19006 Dontazemebro • 2 hours ago
Maybe so. I read an article last night about the shootout in Philadelphia by the local CBS News affiliate that claimed the shooter was using a "long rifle gun", whatever the heck THAT is. And we're supposed to look up to "journalists" for their accuracy and objectivity?
There has to be direct pressure on the hyoid bone before it fractures, typically with the thumbs or a knot in the device used to strangle somebody, such as a garotte. Evenly distributed pressure from a wide noose like a bed sheet, applied with the subject leaning forward on his knees? I haven't stayed at a Holiday Inn Express recently, but I still doubt this happened the way it has been reported.
Tom Clancy has to have been involved in this story.
buckeyeman bobdog19006 • 2 hours ago
A "long rifle" would usually refer to the muzzle loading flintlock or percussion cap rifles used in early America. Sometimes called "Kentucky rifles" they were more commonly made in the east, with some of the best known "schools" in Maryland and Pennsylvania, but there were gun makers almost everywhere. Do not have any hope that you will ever find a "journalist" that knows anything about this or anything else of importance.
bobdog19006 buckeyeman • 2 hours ago
I wonder how many high capacity clips it can hold? Probably some sort of automatic Glock revolver, I guess.
buckeyeman bobdog19006 • 2 hours ago
I read about that in a magazine...
Besides, why isn't there a law against illegal gun ownership?
Joe Sormiker buckeyeman • 40 minutes ago
Nice!
josh michael bobdog19006 • 2 hours ago
It's actually a magazine, clips are used to load magazines. They fit over the magazine, and rounds (commonly called bullets), are quickly fed into the magazine. Only idiots call magazines clips!
Carlos Morales josh michael • an hour ago
Yeah, Josh; he was very obviously being sarcastic. He also mentions an automatic Glock revolver. His entire post was to point out the ignorance of those against the 2nd Amendment.
Wolf Angel buckeyeman • 29 minutes ago
Conflating ‘long gun’ and ‘rifle’ most likely ... but I do have a long barreled rifle. 27 inches. Pretty unusual. It allows more acceleration of slow moving heavy bullets.
‘Long gun’ refers to all rifles.
DaveK buckeyeman • 40 minutes ago • edited
Several states refer to anything with a rifle-length barrel as a "long-gun". For them it's either a handgun or a long-gun.
GMBurns Dontazemebro • an hour ago
You are so incredibly right about reporters not being especially smart that I had to do more than merely 'upvote'. And I would add that these days most are more motivated by pushing a leftist ideology than by the desire to get to the truth, while even those inclined to be honest are often intimidated into being so cautious that they can't speak plainly.
AmericanBelle1 Dontazemebro • 2 hours ago
WaPo reported it as broken bones in the neck...not a broken neck.
Dumbo's Mom Burlington • 4 hours ago
It has been reported that SEVERAL bones in his neck were broken or fractured.
Molon labe Burlington • 4 hours ago
It began before Epstein was murdered!!
TheDoctorWhoCuresCancer Burlington • an hour ago
We commonly think of a broken neck as a break in the cervical bones, so what you're saying makes sense it seems to be misleading. The hyoid bone is in the neck, so they get to claim they are technically correct.
When it is reported there are broken bones are they saying the hyoid was broken in multiple places, or was there another broken bone?
AmericanBelle1 Burlington • 2 hours ago
Duh! There's no reports of a broken neck...the reports are that several bones IN THE NECK, including the hyroid, were broken.
david7134 Green-Eyed Lady • 28 minutes ago
I am with you. It is evident that there is more than one class of citizen in our country. We have developed an elite group that is immune to the law and can do what they desire. I am sick of this and don't feel that the election process is capable of restoring our government.
inabunker FesteringWound • 5 hours ago
The left does not like the fact that Epstein was implicating top dems!
MAGA now inabunker • 4 hours ago
If they had known President Trump would not be implicated in child abuse, then this never would have started. The black president and his predecessors sat on this to protect Clinton and other Establishment pukes. May they all rot in hell.
Sam American inabunker • 2 hours ago
how are podesta, and the other pizzagate, people involved?
Sum Ting Wong FesteringWound • 5 hours ago • edited
This is the moment of truth for AG Barr.
He will either expose this for what it is, murder ~ or he'll prove that he's the swamp creature that I suspect he is.
I hope I'm wrong about him, but I doubt it.
Green-Eyed Lady Sum Ting Wong • 5 hours ago
Let me tell you something... Bill Barr is either the most naive person to fill the role of AG... or he turned a blind eye. That dirtbag’s life would have been more secure with Andy Taylor and Barney Fife guarding him in the Mayberry jail.
mikifenn Green-Eyed Lady • 3 hours ago
I have heard for a year that any day now certain people who conspired against Trump would be in deep trouble. It's been nothing but talk. This may be nothing but talk as well.
Loligag1953 Green-Eyed Lady • 4 hours ago
And little Opie would have been safe too, because Jeffrey didn't swing that way.
Eileen McRae Green-Eyed Lady • 2 hours ago
Ask yourself basic questions. Who reopened this case? Who insisted that it be done in New York State? Who decided which court would do the indictment? Who named the prosecuting attorney team? Who is on that team? Who chose the judge that will hear the case? Who decided which jail/prison he should be incarcerated in? Who made the decision about bail?
Putting the pieces of the jigsaw together might allow you to see the "whole" picture!
Ellie 187 Eileen McRae • an hour ago
SDNY was the ones who executed the arrest and indictment... they have been after Trump since he came down the escalator.... so my theory is they arrest Epstein hoping to get dirt on Trump to bring him down... when it came out that Epstein didn't have anything on Trump (even Epstein accusers specifically said Trump was never seen at these Lolita orgies, SDNY asked the victims specifically about Trump) .... so it when it became evident that this won't get Trump but ensnare a bunch of democrats, he was 'suicided'
GMBurns Eileen McRae • an hour ago
The answer to all those questions is 'the Southern District of New York', a long-time Clintonista fortress. It theoretically belongs to the Justice Department, but there is something called 'prosecutorial independence' that is taken in the courts to mean that political appointees (like Barr) are not supposed to steer what the district attorneys do.
In other words, if Barr reaches in to micromanage, it would be called 'interference with prosecution' and 'obstruction'. You know where that would lead.
There has been something I have noticed for many decades. Conservatives are never prepared for how far the leftists will go. I presume Barr never supposed that Epstein would end up suspiciously dead. I didn't myself.
Sam American Green-Eyed Lady • 2 hours ago
you think AG's get into prison staffing details?
Sum Ting Wong Green-Eyed Lady • 5 hours ago • edited
Thats one vote for "swamp creature".
Jovet Sum Ting Wong • 4 hours ago
I think you're fake... there's no way you survived that plane crash.
GMBurns Green-Eyed Lady • an hour ago
There is no way a handful of people with good intentions recently placed in top jobs can really control a huge bureaucracy filled for decades with leftist activists.
Reagan during his presidency - several years into it - found that only the tiniest percentage of changes in the bureaucracy he had ordered had actually been implemented. I refer to things that would not have required laws to change. And the leftist were not nearly as entrenched then as now, and the Obama administration was absolutely frantic about getting leftist in; part of their push for more women, gays, etc. in higher positions was to be able to displace those not already sufficiently dedicated to the leftist cause (this went on even in the Secret service and military).
In the end, 'draining the swamp' will have to mean cutting the bureaucracy down to a fraction of its current size, and I think it will also be necessary to prohibit it from making 'regulations' not specified by an actual law.
As it is, for an Attorney General to tell the Southern District of New York (who had the Epstein case) what to do with Epstein would have been labeled 'interference with prosecution', i.e., 'obstruction'. You know where that would lead.
BMF Sum Ting Wong • 5 hours ago
Well, there may not be enough physical evidence of murder although there seems to a mountain of broken rules and policies.
Nevertheless, I remain skeptical that a 6 foot 200 pound man managed to hang himself with a bed sheet from a bunk bed with enough force to break his neck and thyroid bone.
Molon labe BMF • 4 hours ago
Oh there’s physical evidence of murder alright! That was the reason for the delay in releasing autopsy results.
Sum Ting Wong BMF • 5 hours ago
Physical evidence is never an issue for the courts.
olga nilsen BMF • 3 hours ago
Oswald did it with a magic bed sheet.
stevenskane BMF • an hour ago
There is a very short list of people who had access to Epstein during the critical period. Those people on that list should be taking precautions themselves. There will be a "cleanup" project. Remember what happened to Lee Harvey Oswald?
Eileen McRae Sum Ting Wong • 2 hours ago
I would like to believe that whatever it is, suicide or murder, that AG Barr will report the truth based on facts!
Bruce Sum Ting Wong • 3 hours ago • edited
MY MONEY ON SWAMP
sosorryononame Sum Ting Wong • 3 hours ago
He;s not prosecuting Comey is he?
Ellie 187 sosorryononame • an hour ago • edited
Supposedly because they want to hit Comey for his FISA abuses ... leaking classified data one isn't going to put him away for more than a few months.... misleading the FISA courts could be years in prison.
We will see if AG Barr will protect the deep state or expose the deep state ... I hope its the latter but I'm afraid its the former
GMBurns sosorryononame • an hour ago
In line with what Ellie 187 says, think of it this way. A charge of leaking alone will be considered trivial in an FBI chief (they are considered to have some discretion). Even if convicted, it will be a slap on the wrist.
However, at a later date, if presented as part of implementing 'a conspiracy', especially 'a seditious conspiracy', the sentences are upped for each charge. Don't use small things up to harass prematurely when as part of a barrage they are much more powerful.
chryslerfan Sum Ting Wong • 5 hours ago
I think Barr has integrity.
peterpan3 chryslerfan • 5 hours ago
Barr should confiscate everything the FBI collected and protect it
Molon labe chryslerfan • 4 hours ago • edited
Then you evidently take that on faith—cause he’s done ZERO to SHOW IT!!
ARB chryslerfan • 4 hours ago
I think he's got about a week to take dramatic and effective action before your average conservative abandons the benefit of the doubt given to Barr.
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