I think it may be Nanotech Industries International Inc. that had the same phone number as HCTI? .. that would make sense as Nanotech Industries International Inc. is dba HCTI one and the same for all intents and purposes .. it's NTI, Nanotech Industries Inc. thats the private company and from which HCTI obtains licensing. http://nanotechindustriesinc.com/contact.php nanotech industries website Tel: + (1) 650-731-4044 Available 9am - 5pm PST M-F Mailing Address: 950 John Daly Blvd. Suite 260 Daly City,CA 94015 USA note, thats the same address as for HCTI, Nanotech Industries International Inc. and Nanotech Industries Inc. (NTI) http://www.hybridcoatingtech.com/pdf/American%20Chemistry%201%20Finalist%2010-21-102.pdf In SEC filings, NTI refers to Nanotech Industries Inc. Nanotech Industries International Inc. should probably be referred to as NTII "I remember either Polymate or NTI having the same phone number as HCTI when you went to the contact page on their website. Now NTI has seperate number. I sent email to NTI yesterday just to see if Kristul was back to work from his leave. Idk if they'll reply or not.