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Re: DinoFett post# 27693

Friday, 09/28/2018 12:20:34 PM

Friday, September 28, 2018 12:20:34 PM

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Funny, real engineers know the importance of precision in communicating data. A single incorrect character is not trivial.

Lower viscosity lubricant allows for higher rated bearing speeds. Yes. But let's look at what's happening in a Cyclone engine.

The last video of the Mark 3 engine spinning for a minute with no load showed the tachometer was ranging from about 1500 to 2000 rpm. (Apparently with little control; Harry was swinging the valve lever left and right and the engine wasn't responding in proportion. The video is at https://www.facebook.com/CyclonePowerTechnologies/videos/vb.212306672134739/1854997644532292/?type=2&theater)

Let's suppose the crankshaft bearings ride on MRC 206S hybrid bearings. Rated speed is 12000 rpm with grease and 15600 rpm with oil lubrication. If water had the lubricating properties of oil at a much lower viscosity, the rated speed would be even higher.

But,

1) Water doesn't have the lubricating properties of oil.
2) Even if it did, the extra speed capability would never be used so this is no benefit.
3) If water lubricated hybrid bearings could be made to work in a Cyclone engine, Cyclone would have demonstrated that in the last decade. Not to mention the fact that the engineers at Ohio State University would not have recommended a bearing research program as the next step in making the engines work if they believed water lubricated hybrid bearings would give acceptable life.

And then we have this classic from Frankie on Facebook:

Frankie Fruge lubrication is water and if you dint think water is a lubricant take the rubber mat out of you ceramic tub. unlike oil lubricants we don't sheer the metal and get mental in our lubricant that is one reduction in wear. maintenance will be water filter changes We have no metal to metal contact another wear factor eliminated. We have bearings that have a life cycle from SKF depending on the dury cycle those will have to be changed. electric motors again with duty cycles belts. Rotary valve a 15 minute job piston rings a 45 minute job depending on dury cycle. The engine itself only has 7 moving parts All the rest are sub systems water pumps fuel pumps ekectric motors electronic controls just the usual stuff.


That's the technical acumen of folks running Cyclone. Somebody slipped in the bathtub and concluded every engine manufacturer on Earth, ever, has got it wrong by lubricating engines with oil.

And Cyclone has still never publicly demonstrated an engine powering anything. Ever wonder why?



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