ctrumabll Thursday, 02/01/18 12:03:41 PM Re: NewTrader2017 post# 56794 Post # of 56849 what has changed? Very little. Both have been subject to claims that they were going to trigger the Shortpacolypse. Neither did. Both had unrealistic claims about business (A Belize casino where not one shovelful of dirt was moved in an effort to construct it versus some abandoned mines that magically acquired additional value that made them worthwhile for the first time in 90 years). Both had serial scammers running the show (Clarence Parks and Peter Iodice for DHSM, Lumb and Lowenthal for the "sisters").