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Friday, 08/11/2017 5:34:48 PM

Friday, August 11, 2017 5:34:48 PM

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That's a shame. Chuk Williams ran his steam car at Bonneville Salt Flats at least twice, just touching the record speed before his car crashed.

A couple of his years of delays, of course, were due directly to Harry Schoell's false claims of being able to provide a working engine to Chuk.

Here's a post I made about this a while back:

The car was owned by Chuk Williams. He designed, built and paid for the materials himself. Here's the PR from 2011 when he delivered it to Cyclone to install the engine: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110125006433/en/Cyclone-Williams-Steam-Powered-Speedster-Races-Starting-Line-World



That's Harry Schoell on the left and Chuk Williams on the right.

Cyclone had provided Chuk with a mock-up engine and Chuk re-engineered and rebuilt his car to fit it. It's the round grey thing behind the driver's seat.

As part of the deal Cyclone built the body for the car and written into the contract was that the body would belong to Chuk.

Cyclone never provided a working engine and Chuk was getting eager to actually run his car, so he ended the partnership in 2012. Harry Schoell actually sued Chuk claiming Chuk stole Harry's property (i.e., the car body). The suit ended when Chuk gave the body back. That's why the car ran at Bonneville in 2012 with no body.

http://kimmelsteam.com/images/Chuks%20Car/Chucks%20carDSC_0124.jpg

After Chuk built a new body for his car, Harry sold the old one on Ebay for $3150, claiming it cost (Cyclone shareholders) $70,000 to make. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Speed-Record-LSR-Streamliner-Fiberglass-Car-Body-/251430846090?nma=true&si=HDj0Fog5vpRRD66U%252FQuS6cab4RU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The car was designed, built and owned by Chuk Williams. Harry Schoell promised to deliver a working engine, which he never did. Those facts, however, didn't stop Harry Schoell from telling people it was his car. E.g., from a magazine interview in 2011: http://www.editinternational.com/photos.php?id=4dc2dab2a8d90

"Cyclone says their car will do well over 200 miles an hour when they race it on the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah in late summer."



As a post script, the Cyclone car was featured in a magazine article in February 2013. It's at https://archive.org/stream/Racecar_Engineering_2013_02#page/n19/mode/1up

This is the article where they claimed they were going to hit 400 mph by the end of 2013. In it Hoyos says their budget was less than a tenth of the 10 million pounds the British spent. There's another magazine article out there where he was quoted as saying Cyclone was spending half a million dollars on the speed record project. They had a professional race car building shop build the chassis, so that was probably well over a hundred grand. And after spending all that investor money the car has never moved one foot under the power of a Cyclone engine.

Meanwhile, Chuk Williams on a shoe-string budget working out of his garage made it to Bonneville twice and came within a hair of beating the record.

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