Sorry, I never owned the stock. I've worked in aerospace all my career and learned of Mr. Moller from an associate 30 years ago. I thought he was a nut then. I just follow him now for the humor. It's also a great lesson on human nature. Some people will just believe anything some people say, with absolutely no supporting evidence. If it's been printed (or on the internet), it must be true. That's how the whole penny stock thing works.