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The only difference is IMMU had already received US FDA accelerated approval and was on verge of filing for full approval.
if a hypothetical bid does happen on UK alone, the BO would definitely be single digits IMO.
I am expecting Merck to pay the same for NWBO as Gilead paid for Immunomedics so $21 billion but perhaps +$3 billion more
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-immunomedics-m-a-gilead-sciences-idUSKBN2640V8
In my view, Immunomedics can be well compared to NWBO
Just like NWBO Immunomedics was an almost zero (20 million) revenue biotech
Just like NWBO Immunomedics claimed to have a platform for solid tumors
Immunomedics catered to a much bigger market (Immunomedics Trodelvy is for breast cancer) than NWBO however with many more competitors.
Just like NWBO Immunomedics claimed Trodelvy can be used for all solid tumors
Just like NWBO Immunomedic had not started any meaningful P3 trial to provide evidence that Trodelvy is actually effective for all solid tumors
So with 1.5 billion shares O/S (1.1 now + 100 million max more dilution + 250 million for NWBO management) that would get us to around $ 16 per share buyout
Dang... the description mentions all solid tumors!
same here even $10 bye CU lol
So they have teams working on the pre-requisites.
Covid is still out there.
hahaha my bad I mean the ATH from the last 3 years
Its really simple. If the MHRA approves DCVAXL, which I still expect to happen this year even before Oct 1 then the SP will reach new All-time Highs if not then you will be right
NWBO said exactly where they are in the MAA process 3 weeks ago in their last 10Q. If you want to know where they are in the MAA process read the 10Q with date 2023-05-10
https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/1072379/000141057823000976/nwbo-20230331x10q.htm
page 23
when did ANY of these events brought ANYTHING exciting or new ever? It never has ASCO won't be an exception.
It’s not insider trading if you’re buying directly from the company pursuant to an offering. Trading means the trading of outstanding shares.
You will be surprised how much and how many times Les spilled the beans. From who do you think Thermo got the Jama peanut butter? The only problem with Les is that he lies about timelines not so much about the events itself.
I think there is confusion in the post with understanding that this is a GBM trial which has been successful
Hahaha lol I am still chuckling and laughing love it !
I’m planning to work on preparations to get something done in the future if ofcourse the budget allows my planning to prepare.
Yours sincerely NWBO hahaha
Yup but I’m sure these patients and other cancer patients are happy to learn, just before they die, that Linda self enriched herself for the second time with a CDMO financed by shareholders but hey:
they will start In the future, to plan and conduct clinical trials of DCVax-L for other types of solid tumor cancers, beyond brain cancer and to plan to work on preparations for Phase II trials of DCVax-Direct
So there is that
Tomorrow tomorrow I love you tomorrow you are always an NWBO life time away
“It’s Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark TwaiN
If you think that simple ownership of company owning the shares of Advent legal logic and economics does not not apply to Advent or in the UK then you do you
A buyer could take NWBO out and own all the IP, lease and equipment at Sawston.
No I dont blame him either. Everything that you just wrote is correct, and to make matters worse.
They enrich themselves with a sickening 20% of outstanding shares and have shareholders finance the CEO's own private CDMO. And then the hardcore fans praise and cheer because Advent is now "the most advanced CDMO in the UK, servicing $NWBO and now checking all license boxes for GMP Manufacturing: MIA, MIA(IMP), MS, HTA, and GMO" And you know what they are right Advent is one hell of an accomplishment. However, NWBO shareholders will hardly benefit from it and did pay for founding Advent. Lindas talent is clearly at starting running and selling CDMO's and having others pay for it.
He is still in the top 5 largest shareholders
I remember that and I sure as hell hope and really expect that this time its different. If not then we are F@@@.
One in my group had enough and is selling large portion (not me)
There is a difference between establishing internal manufacturing versus setting a cdmo up owned by the ceo's fund. Big difference.
desperate propaganda trying to explain why Toucan needed its own CDMO paid by NWBO shareholders.
no you really didnt explain anything with your Tesla example. Telsa is an eCAR manufacturer NWBO IS NOT a CDMO Do you understand the difference?
You stick with your opinion that CRL the go-to manufacturer for nonrevenue biotech with 21,400 employees 150 locations and $4 billion in revue is a loser and therefore its better to start your own CDMO from scratch, fine with me.
According to you, all biotech managers dont understand how to build a biotech except the brilliant LP. Heck, you have to justify something for the dilution that shareholders have been through in order to pay for Linda's private CDMO.
from Seeking Alpha article Oct 8, 2022
if this company did things the normal way, then this data would make for a superb investment. But they don't do anything in the normal way, so I don't know. I can interpret the data, I can understand that the people behind the data have excellent pedigree. I cannot for the life of me interpret what NWBO is going to do. And that, my friends, remains the problem.
That pretty much sums things up
I thought the DCVax was produced in the UCLA lab for the trial
Patients must have sufficient tumor lysate protein that was generated from the surgically obtained tumor material. Patients must also have sufficient DCVax-L product available after manufacturing. These determinations will be made by Cognate BioServices, Inc. (Cognate) and communicated to the clinical site through the Sponsor, or its designee.
There were no issues with CRL when they produced DCVAXL for the trial. Also if CRL is such a risk then why would LP state at the last ASM she plans to contract them for the US?
Besides Advent and CRL are BOTH third-party CDMOs to NWBO.
Building a CDMO is much more riskier then working together with CRL to get MIA
personally, I do not believe that management has stalled the request for approval because the regulatory agencies told them to wait for combo trial data. I think that data will have no influence on the RA's decision.
I am as I said convinced Linda hold up the submission for a request of approval to first build her own personal CDMO financed by shareholders and owned by Toucan which is exactly what happened and we know now as Advent Bio. So pure and simple greed at the expense of NWBO shareholders.
and no Im not selling any shares. I will sell after MHRA approval or FDA approval if submitted.
most of the core and important decisions NWBO management took over the years have never been put up for vote, but always were a fait accompli to shareholders. If NWBO had for example directly asked shareholders if they are ok with financing Advent Bio as a private Toucan CDMO holding then 90% would vote no.
Had Linda decided to stay with CRL and contract CRL from the beginning (as what she said at the ASM they are planning todo this year 2023 and perhaps and hopefully this already happened), then this would have cost far less. After the CRL contract, the RA's could have approved DCVAXL based on the manufacturing contract with CRL, and within a year after data lock stock price would go to $ 15-$20 then sell 100 million shares THEN build a CDMO OWNED by NWBO AND start new trials.
This would have been the best path forward after data lock.
The reason why she did not is that IF DCVAXL were to be disapproved by the RA's then at least she can keep her own CDMO and sell it exactly as she did with Cognate.
And THAT is the real uncomfortable truth.
To think that it will take longer than 3 years since data lock for a submission and approval is absurd.
Time for more capable hands of big pharma to run this drug to its potential in terms of regulatory approvals and indication expansion. You can't keep operating in asynchronous mode doing 1 thing at a time in this industry.
If this product truly competes with us it won't be until the 2030's when it could be approved. By that time, if we're right about our vaccines benefitting all sorts of solid cancers, we'll be wealthy beyond our wildest expectations.'
misinterpreted what the FDA means when it says you can't cherry-pick external trial(s) data and compare it to your own data. It’s to avoid bias. NWBO didn't do that
Also it is misinterpreted what SOC is, its NOT a trial. If a GBM patient now in any hospital gets treated for GBM with SOC he/she is not being treated with a trial treatment.
For you:
What is the current standard of care for glioblastoma?
Temozolomide Chemotherapy
It is an oral chemotherapy pill and standard therapy that starts two to six weeks after surgery for tumor biopsy or resection. TMZ is taken at home for 42 days, starting the night before or the same day as your brain radiation. For glioblastoma, this is typically followed six monthly cycles
The comp was to to SOC arms of other trials and clearly has the concerns the FDA expresses
Ms. Powers, CEO of NW Bio, commented: “We are excited to see the meaningful survival extensions in glioblastoma patients treated with DCVax®-L in this trial – particularly in the “long tail” of the survival curve, where we see more than double the survival rates as with existing standard of care. With well over 400 clinical trials for glioblastoma having failed over the last 15 years, it is gratifying to be able to offer new hope to patients who face this devastating disease.”
Treatment that is accepted by medical experts as a proper treatment for a certain type of disease and that is widely used by healthcare professionals. Also called best practice, standard medical care, and standard therapy
particular concern for bias would be the selection of an external control arm from a completed trial whose outcomes are already known.
Sponsors should finalize a study protocol before initiating the externally controlled trial,
First of all, you, as I have said, posted a falsehood when you said this:
Besides, the guidance, like others, specifically states that OS is compared to ECAs is not a valid endpoint.
Data derived from externally controlled trials are seldom reliable for time-to-event endpoints, including overall survival
Data derived from externally controlled trials are seldom reliable for time-to-event endpoints, including overall survival.
45 approvals id'ed where FDA accepted ext. control data in benefit/risk assessment; doing so for many reasons incl. rare nature of the disease, ethical concerns wrt use ofplacebo or no-treatment arm, seriousness of condition, and unmet medical need
Confirmatory evidence could include, for example, adequate and well-controlled clinical
investigations in a related disease area, certain types of real world evidence20
Real-world data are data relating to patient health status and/or the delivery of health care routinely collected from a variety of sources. Examples of RWD include data derived from electronic health records, medical claims data, data from product or disease registries, and data gathered from other sources (such as digital health technologies) that can inform on health status.
Real-world evidence is the clinical evidence about the usage and potential benefits or risks of a medical product derived from analysis of RWD.
https://www.fda.gov/science-research/science-and-research-special-topics/real-world-evidence
Besides, the guidance, like others, specifically states that OS is compared to ECAs is not a valid endpoint.
I do see that as well, but I do hope its for the reason of DCVAX production and not because they are starting to get other third-party clients assigning Adventbio to other cell therapy Development and Manufacturing contracts.
In other words I hope we are not seeing the same thing happening here as we did see with the hiring at Cognate.