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With all due respect...where did you come up with this information about shorts/naked shorts being locked up..billions..lol....that is a fantasy...and have seen this narrative pushed many times before on penny stocks...
By the very nature of the OTC itself..the platform is a scam as penny investors get screwed most of the time
If you're going to make a statement like that concerning CATV then please provide evidence to support this assertion..otherwise...it's just bs.
The whole narrative surrounding naked shorting/shorting of pennies...is at the very least fantasy.
NO idea....and frankly...in my case I have only myself to blame...I was out and had tripled my 60 k...and was sitting on a 192k profit....I got out as the stock was retreating from the high over 3......
And when it paused...around 1.92...and started heading back up..albeit temporarily...I jumped back in....and then proceeded to lose everything.....
Fortunately this was during the time Freidland was carrying out his scam by talking out of both sides of his mouth.....
I think the thing that pisses me off so much is all the time and effort so many of us put into OW...and to be screwed..and in my case lied to and mislead by all of them..including Turner...is bittersweet. And here we are now...what a wonderful story for all of us.....
NO you didn't..it was directed at the other poster.... :)
Thanks for repeating what I just posted.
LOL..in what world would anyone believe they will get their whole investment back?..It doesn't work that way.....
Been through this circus a few times....
Everyone that has a legitimate claim and provides the requested documents get back something but nothing close to what we put in and lost.
There will be a formula that can be equally applied depending on a few different factors..... That way no one claim can be allowed to override anyone else's claim..
So just lose that thought altogether IMO.
Just like you I included detailed paperwork of my trades.
I lost 6 figures in this one ....
I'd be happy to see something come back my way....but certainly I have never believed it would be all or anything close to what I lost.
Usually pennies on the dollar is what comes back and due to the small amount recovered...about 5 million...that in fact is what we're likely to see.
People should be thankful to get anything back.
Just went through a long process with another stock that was a slam dunk..patent infringement..and I tried to warn everyone there that this wasn't going to end the way we'd all thought when be bought into the company because of the infringement.
Everything took forever to work through the courts until as it turns out, shareholders were not even part of the infringement settlement and details of the settlement to this date are still unknown as information was supressed.
In the end..shareholders were screwed..as is the case 99% of the time on the OTC.
Again...be thankful in getting anything back from the Freidland Fair Fund.
LOL..in what world would anyone believe they will get their whole investment back?..It doesn't work that way.....
Been through this circus a few times....
Everyone that has a legitimate claim and provides the requested documents get back something but nothing close to what we put in and lost.
Just like you I included detailed paperwork of my trades.
"I think a partner will be required to help see this through. This isn't a bad thing! I am in the camp that it will turn around, but the negatives I mentioned will help me understand how much exposure I want here. I would assume you base your exposure on your DD and that is great! Hopefully we all win in the end. I wish you much success!"
Agree 100%..
All in good time grasshopper :)
Great post and I agree with you 100%.
I was in Israel in 2019 on other business and I had the opportunity to investigate Else myself while there...
Once I determined who and what was going on....I got in....
I am less concerned about the day to day operations as I knew in February of 2019 that this was to be a 4-5 year plan...until the fruits would become evident.
I get that people are frustrated and disappointed with sales.....
It is what it is...
Everyone is free to vote with their shares...buy or sell......
I used this opportunity..this downturn...to load up..I am happy with my position...happy with the company..and happy to wait....
As was pointed out...China coming online is a massive game changer....Canada to a lesser degree as we are a population of under 40 million despite our large land mass.
Best to you!
LOL..dream on...
Do you have a clue about the history here?
THis is done custodian or not..there is no company..nothing.
I have discussed this with another poster, Bruce lake...and had the same concerns..the weird thing is that before these deals were closed..specifically the last offering..the share price had already deteriorated.....so even if these were offered publically...it would have been stupid to buy the warrants...conclusion was that these deals are consummated long before they are made public...
How can it make sense any other way...
But again.... many things about this company don't make sense to us because we aren't in the loop.
Maybe for you....
I agree....so let's assume..because that is what everyone else here does...that they have a plan..... we aren't privy to .....they have access to massive amounts of money just through their Hong Kong connection..Have you forgotten about them?
It's all about timing...and we sit here only knowing what they tell us through pr's and such.....
I try not to speculate based on limited information and knowledge of the company and its' inner workings.
Do you really think they're so stupid as to not understand what their capital requirements are and that they are being watched closely by Abbot and Neslte for example...
Else will not fail...
It makes me laugh when I read some of the posts here..sorry..
Because I am not an analyst and secondly..I am not privy to company information and decisisons..so the point being..it's a complete waste of time to speculate.
I wasn't targeting you specifically..so sorry that is how it came across.
I'll say it again..they are not blowing their load on secondary products....
The reason the company exists is for the infant formula....
It would be nice if they'd communicate that.... as I know this is the reality.
It makes no sense any other way.... and I realize the announcements and storefronts etc....lead one to believe this is everything they plan to do with these products when in fact these products are secondary and have the company treading water until the big formula launch comes in another year or 2..
I can wait..... but perhaps people that are unhappy...got in too soon without understanding their game plan.... This explains why management are happy with how things are going..... They are on plan...... sorry to say there are disgruntled people that take no responsibility for their trading decisions....and continue to complain about the same thing every day...which isn't going to change.... We wait for the infant formula....FDA approval...then $$$$.
Not playing that game...sorry.
YOU ALL NEED TO CHILL OUT.
In July last year, Former Abbott Executive, Mike Glick joined Else Nutrition as General Manager and VP, North America. In his role within Else, Mike oversees the rapidly growing Else Nutrition business across the US and Canada.
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Consumer and Healthcare products leader with experience in both Fortune 100 and VC-backed start-ups, P&L responsibility, strong team leadership, and a track record of delivering sustainable results. Strategic and tactical expertise in multiple functions across the US and Internationally. Proficient among all medical and retail channels, and business levers, with proven ability to launch or turn around businesses and teams.Consumer and Healthcare products leader with experience in both Fortune 100 and VC-backed start-ups, P&L responsibility, strong team leadership, and a track record of delivering sustainable results. Strategic and tactical expertise in multiple functions across the US and Internationally. Proficient among all medical and retail channels, and business levers, with proven ability to launch or turn around businesses and teams.
1 year in and what a ride!
It has now been officially 1 year since I started at Else Nutrition USA, Inc. and things could not be more different from where we began 365 days ago!
Back then, we:
- Had no office
- Had no payroll or benefits
- Had no employees (just me)
- BUT we did have sales based on strong work by our Israeli team and Avi B. Markus
- We had 3 SKUs selling online and 1 SKU selling in about 1,000 stores (mainly natural channel)
Since that time, we:
- Secured our first office space (which we're about to grow out of), and a local warehouse too
- Set up benefits, payroll, taxes, expense system, policies, and a lot of other stuff we had to learn on the fly
- Launched an entire Medical focus for our brand, with marketing, field & phone sales and now have over 700 Pediatrician offices sharing Else Nutrition with parents who need it for their little ones!
- Increased products from 3 SKUs to 10 SKUs across Baby, Toddler, and Kids
- Doubled our retail distribution by expanding into over 1,000 CVS HealthHub stores (started yesterday!) nationwide, and will triple our distribution by year end.
- AND most importantly, the PEOPLE - we hired 10 more people, an office dog, several key vendors, and have 2 open jobs with more to come
Thank you to all of our friends across the pond at Else Nutrition GH and of course those here in the States.
Without a team of passionate, smart, adaptable people, it would not have been possible to launch a new office and a new function, while tripling in revenue, people, and distribution.
Can't wait to see what year number 2 brings us!
There are a few studies that have been conducted on animals, or in vivo, that show potential issues with inflammation. For example, a 2017 in vivo study which you referenced and was published in the Journal of Immunology examined how lectins may trigger inflammatory pathways. The researchers found that plant lectins may activate something called the NLRP3 inflammasome, promoting inflammation in the body that could lead to other diseases. Lectins bind to cells for an extended period of time, which can potentially trigger an autoimmune inflammatory response like rheumatoid arthritis or type 1 diabetes. While this study is intriguing, it is far from conclusive and has never been peer reviewed.
Exactly..and they just conveniently forgot about lectins?
ROTFLMAO!!!
https://foodrevolution.org/blog/the-truth-about-lectins/
"Lectin-Containing Foods Are Not the Enemy
While we’re all entitled to our own opinions, we’re not entitled to creating our own facts. The Plant Paradox’ claims about lectins are not backed by science. The foods that Dr. Gundry is telling us to avoid are, for the most part, beneficial.
It’s true that plant lectins bind to carbohydrates, which slows down their digestion. But, in many cases, this is a good thing. It lowers the glycemic index of carbohydrates, and it contributes to the weight loss and anti-diabetes effects of beans and many other plant foods. Dr. Gundry is telling people to be afraid of eating foods like beans and many fruits and vegetables. But the plant foods that he says to avoid are, in fact, among the healthiest foods we can eat. The more of them we eat, the lower our risk for heart disease, cancer, type 2 diabetes, and Alzheimer’s.
Beans, for example, are rich in many anticancer phytochemicals, which is why they consistently show very powerful associations with lower rates of breast cancer. There’s a type of lectin found in mushrooms that’s been found to inhibit the growth of cancer cells. This is one of the reasons that mushrooms are another food offering powerful protection against cancer. Tomatoes are high in lectins but are also highest in lycopene, which has shown extraordinary anticancer effects.
Lectins that are found in soybeans, bananas, buckwheat, mushrooms, and many other plant foods have been found to have such strong anticancer effects that some of these lectins are being investigated as potential cancer therapies."
"Gundry clearly knows that the foods he vilifies provide critical nutrients. Yet his solution is synthetic pills and powders, which aren’t exactly cheap. For example, he promotes a supplement he’s invented that he calls a lectin shield, which he claims will neutralize the disastrous effects of those lectins that you absolutely can’t avoid. A month’s supply costs $79.99 per person, or about a thousand dollars a year. And there are 10 other supplements that he calls “must-haves.” I’ve seen membership in his VIP discount club advertised for about $10,000 a year.
I don’t know about you, but to me, that sounds like a lot of money to spend solving a problem that might not actually even exist."
That study came out in 2017 and has never been peer reviewed.
The study is not definitive..it suggests certain things may or may not be true.
So how does a whole area of marketing spring up around something that is unproven at this time..... Enter the quack Gundry...
Write books..sell supplements..sell sell sell.....
About as fundamentally sound as the quacks on the net pushing vaccine conspiracy theories.... or the quacks in China claiming that covid came from bats when everything points to a level three lab mistake...
I have no time for this bs.....we may not like how they are marketing etc...however stop and think about everything that they have had to do to get to where we are today...
And some putz shows up here and starts going off on lectins...lol
Else is a good company with a great future..... I can wait.
Yes..it is strange.....
I find it incredibly hard to believe that with all the years of planning and research that went into ELSE..that they wouldn't have come across this whole lectin thing..and they would have addressed it if it was at all relevant.....
I trust the science behind Else and the scientific team is composed of major medical and scientific notables well versed in infant nutrition and nutrition in general and the science behind it ..How would they just ignore this lectin thing?
They wouldn't have...nor would they have invested all the time and money to create the company and its' footprint of current and upcoming products.
They are continuing to carry out research and move forward with many scientific studies that will help form the foundation for FDA approval..hopefully!
The timing is strange for sure...for many reasons.... :)
I'm not interested in anything out of Gundry's mouth.
As I stated in a previous post, several sources have discounted both his books and research and that comes from the medical/scientific community.
"Steven got popular for his opinion on lectins, which is a plant protein. He claims that lectins cause major inflammation which is the cause of a majority of commonly found modern diseases. However, this is simply not true.
Real scientists & dietitians have called Gundry’s statement a “pathetic call for attention”.
Let's move on here...I sincerely hope that you're not one of those people that thinks because it's on the internet it must be true types..lol
Gundry is a quack and a marketer....He is not a scientist...and his books lack foundational scientific information while at the same time he glosses over any research that flies in the face of his own lame assertions.
I'm not interested in the man or his so called research...He's all about making $$$$ first and foremost just like Mercola and OZ...all shysters.
FROM YOUR POST.....
"plant-derived dietary lectins have been reported to be involved in the pathogenesis of several inflammatory diseases, including inflammatory bowel disease, diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, and celiac disease, but little is known about the molecular mechanisms underlying lectin-induced inflammation."
IN OTHER WORDS..THE SCIENCE IS NOT DEFINITIVE....JUST LIKE MANY OTHER THINGS SCIENTIFICALLY INVESTIGATED..... A POSSIBILITY AND NOTHING MORE..AND YOUR FRIEND GUNDRY HAS BEEN WRITING AND FLOGGING PRODUCTS AS IF THIS IS A KNOWN DEFINITIVE ISSUE WHEN FROM YOUR OWN POSTS..IT CLEARLY SAYS IT ISN'T DEFINITIVE.
ELSE SPENT SEVERAL YEARS DEVELOPING THEIR PRODUCTS AND IT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS TO BELIEVE FOR ONE SECOND THAT THE TEAM AT ELSE DIDN'T LOOK INTO THIS AREA BEFORE PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT.
IF THE SCIENCE WAS DEFINITIVE ON LECTINS THAT WOULD BE ONE THING BUT IT ISN'T. THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW STUDIES AND SO FAR THERE IS NO CLUE HOW LECTINS CAUSE ALL THIS DAMAGE AT THE MOLECULAR LEVEL IF IN FACT THEY ARE THE CULPRIT ALONE.
FLOGGING PSEUDO SCIENCE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE RESAERCH ON LECTINS IS AT THIS TIME HAS NO PLACE HERE.
NOTHING DEFINITIVE...
Steven Gundry is yet another MD using the power of the internet to flog his products while at the same time presenting himself as this guru of insight.....
Sorry..I'll pass........ I've seen enough of these online shysters passing themselves off with credentials out the yin yang..Dr OZ.....and the scumbag Dr Mercola...these idiots have no other interest than selling their products which are priced abnormally high and show little or no efficacy in the long term.....
Gundry is another one...... creating a need and having the solution amazingly....
Please keep this bs to yourself.....a little knowledge in the wrongs hands doesn't make anyone an expert...... and Gundry..whose so called work you've quoted from.... is only interested in lining his pockets...as is Mercola..and OZ and others of this ilk.
Don't be so naive. https://www.gripeo.com/dr-steven-gundry/
"Steven got popular for his opinion on lectins, which is a plant protein. He claims that lectins cause major inflammation which is the cause of a majority of commonly found modern diseases. However, this is simply not true.
Real scientists & dietitians have called Gundry’s statement a “pathetic call for attention”.
I know FDA approval is not a slam dunk..I was referring to them not having to worry about nutritional benchmarks.
FDA approval is required.... a formality as we already know that Else either hits or surpasses all the current health standards of both dairy and soy based formulas.
There is no owc pot pill..They were passed by a long time ago as has been pointed out here previous times.
So what kind of mushrooms are they?
YA A REAL TURD...LOL
I was being sarcastic...there is nothing more to come here...it is dead and done....why continue the ruse?
Nothing is being filed or will be filed..... I said this well over a year ago...6 months ago......
Why continue to post messages saying things like...." no criminal charges have been filed yet"...
LOL..based on what..
YOu think the infrastructure and everything that has been set up and exists...is a scam..lol
No point having dialogue here.
When are the trials in the Chancery court and the NY courts happening?
This fair fund was created as an outcome of the SEC investigation.
The money has been expunged from Friedland and put into escrow waiting for dispersion to harmed investors that make a completed/approved claim.
There are no lawyers here representing harmed shareholders.
Read the complaint and the instructions about accessing the fair fund.
Unreal....
Your question is mute...because you wander instead of wonder.
and yes..the word is moot.....
There is something very wrong with how the market works..this has zero to do with
Hamital.
There is absolutely no way in hell this stock should be .59 cents or even under a
few dollars based on everything they have done and are doing.
There are dozens and dozens of other stocks trading in the dollars that are total
bs companies....
IMO Else has been targeted for one reason or another....however....
With the US markets closed yesterday the stock rose...and today it is shorted back
down....US markets open...complete BS.
I am in for one reason only..the baby formula.
I have been buying at levels I never expected to see again...but here we are.
I can wait another year or three to see this explode and it will.
Anyone not prepared to wait should just move on..
All this baby cereal and all the other shit..... is the sideshow...and the share price
reflects that...
THis is not about Hamital......
New interview with Hamital.
She addresses several things..... including the hit on the market price of the stock.
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/JEBvFDSY
The "F" has nothing to do with anything here....
and
It's not a supply issue either.
The baby formula needs FDA approval which takes time.... another 1-2 years unless it gets fast tracked.
All stocks are getting pummeled in this bear market.
It has nothing to do with technical chart reading which is useless.
As a first step..it would be prudent to understand the history of the company when commenting.
That is evidently not the case.
What a shit show...and as per usual..we the penny OTC investors get screwed....Ho hum.
I respect your opinion..
I don't agree with it though.
There are several other companies that passed OW years ago and have THC pills on the market.....for example..this Israeli company..Panaxia..a real company from the beginning...
https://panaxia.co.il/