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I was wrong. Clear as day.
Honestly, I have no clue. I just expect it to happen until he gets someone else to take the shell. This will haunt me for a while. A learned lesson.
The float here is pretty solid at the moment. In the pinks, 1.2 bill isnt a lot. The debt and liabilities are fake and made up so those can be removed. And the notes are paid off. Unless, there are somehow more.
I thought the annual came out February. So, soonish
It's the US PCAOB company. Halls Chadwick is working with them but it's in final review. It's not just Hall Chadwick, after they finish, it goes to PCAOB
When the audit drops, I think it's in everyone's best interest to start doing some small PR and marketing.
It's very hard to believe anyone on this forum because its so open about marketing and communicating what a company wants people to know. Investorshub itself is very odd. So, much what we see written here could be planted. Lenders coming on here and trying to get sellers. Doesnt mean that poster is, but one always has to be weary.
Anyway, I think shareholders have been punished enough and if we do not see something this next month in terms of the audit, which I believe we will, not sure many people will be left. The audit confirms the cost of the land, and also the value of the entire company, as well as the bare bones value of the mine at $170,000,000 bare minimum. That in itself should pull in serious investors and set this company up for higher market cap.
This data and financials are the groundwork where the company shouldnt be giving shares away for nothing anymore and make investors pay more with incentive if they continue to sell shares to grow.
What you decide to do is completely up to you. And you have every right to feel the way you do and take the actions you do. I just do not understand coming on a board and letting everyone know you sold and basically dumping on people like "cya suckers". It's rather juvenile to me. No one has to come on and profess they sold. You decided to for whatever reason. It is your choice, but I can view my opinion as well. It was very clear based on your posts and continue posts.
You have to understand its very late where he is. He is doing a conference call, and he is answering the same redundant questions in which in any really company where growth and continued structure requires influx of cash. He is right, it is what it is. I think what many of us are asking is why based on the audit and the mine potential, with these investors, require them to pay higher levels based on what is known and tested on the mine. Certain other mining companies like SDRC* have done such like that.
Anyway, I do not care about your selling, it's the need to drop a "Sayonara" in what I read as a condescending statement.
I do not think anyone is shocked by your departure with you constant 5-10 pumped posts obviously wanting out wherever you could at whatever peak you could find. Thank you for taking the time to tell everyone you decided to leave, like we all care.
Correct. And that is the minimum. There are large portions of that land they have not touched. I asked Erinn about it. So, there could be more than those shafts they currently have.
Wtf were they expecting to hear? The audit was done? He made it abundantly clear it wasn't. Also, I guess most retail are taking heavy losses based on nothing, I dont buy that. I think the lender is selling as well. This will change soon.
Do you mind explaining to me like I am 5 years old? haha. I need some clarity on what that means.
Gotcha. Right now, all we can do is wait. The way he was talking about the company was very realistic and wasnt beating around the bush, which I liked. Reality is, all we can do is wait.
I thought you were done with this company, no? Part of this is faith unless we fly out there and view it.
The share structure is still very nice and it moving several cents is not crazy by any means. Especially when you have floats 10 times this running hard. Anyway, hopefully he has a lot of updates, changes, filings, to just drop. .0001-.0010 will go quick.
I'm just glad he is very communicative. I refrain right now from communication as I know there is only so much he can do. So, I let him do his magic.
"There are too many units of audit!!!" ~ The twilight zone
The Form 1-A/A filing alone doesnt authorize the sale of those shares. You need the SEC to qualify those shares. If that is what you are specifically talking about.
It would be best for him to get the hell out of them, yes.
He will just lie or make something up. He will want to sell this shell or get something in it. However long that takes is anyone's guess.
Looks like it is going to be very subscription based. They plan to I guess set up equipment and software suites, an all in house setup allowing researchers, consultants, and alike to use their equipment for a fee. Good revenue stream actually. Especially if the price is right.
Who are you and why have you taken an interest all of a sudden? Like Puppet stated, we already took the shaft. I'm luckier than others. But the OS will not be even close to 2,000,000,000. Not entirely sure where you even got that math.
I havebt posted on Ihub in a while but just wanted to say, that must of been pretty amazing.
The only analysis we have to see is that the reality is someone is taking volume with very little drop. The shares are somehow being take. Very close together as the price increases. Very little bid whacking meaning Very little is selling. All indications this has only one place to go for the moment, that is up. Sure, MMs can manipulate a little but only so much. Unless lenders have shares or want to sell anymore, if they have any, we all are just holding. Forcing any onlookers who want shares to either out bid one another or slap. That's all I have really seen thus far. So here to that. Great post by the way.
Zero. But most likely nothing good
The hope is he has to give up this shell to someone else.
You like talking to yourself. Yes. I have been in here for years and years and everyone here knows me as a pumper and that is why they stay in VGTL, so I can pump the crap out of this because they have made so much money off it.
The only person who spends this much time following people and posting after every place they go have a real lonely life. This is just a board. So, have at it I guess.
Lenders are owed.
Not sure what hoops have to be made to get a real buyer for this. Unless, there are serious skeletons in this tickers closet, this should be a relatively good sell to a company. The games are relentless.
Right. And I agree. It wasn't you. It was the other two. I unfortunately replied to you and then focused.
I have no issue with your bullish stance. You have an issue with my negative stance. What seems to be the issue?
I have no idea how this relates to anything I said. I simply said that I do not believe they are telling the 100% truth.
I never claimed i had any info. How many times do i have to repeat myself before it starts to sync in? I never said the audit is not going to happen. I said that the gamble with this stock is whether or not it is going to happen or not. That is why it sits at 4 cents. I personally do not want to take the risk.
Nowhere did i say you should not have an emotional reaction. I simply stated that your so invested into this stock that u criticizing someone else for having an opinion on an OTC stock simply cuz u dont like that they dont think the gamble is worth it. It's mind boggling.
Partially. That is why I have contacted the auditor and Rossin, and SGS Ltd. I can only go off what they can share. I believe them. Nils has miscommunicated way longer than you have been around. If you did some DD on their tweets, watched their videos, and their PRs, you would have known this already. But you haven't, which tells me enough.
I do not care if you support this stock. I just do not think you have any level of solid information that you can provide that institutes the fact that the audit isn't going to happen. So, you come on here, where you have done zero research from the looks of it, and in 3 months, made your decision of risk verses reward instead of doing the DD you could have done prior to probably come to your conclusion. Then, you come on here to tell people after your 3 months of being on here, and doing very little of research, that you think something is wrong. Then, another poster piggybacks off that.
So, yeah, I do not trust the company necessarily, nor most of the posters on here and thus why sometimes I come on here on others behalf to make statements. For investors to say that they do not have some sort of emotional response to a gamble or investment they make is just scientifically inaccurate. You aren't a robot. People base their judgments on a multitude of factors.
So, no, I do not buy that you are fully prefrontal making executive decisions without emotion. Anyway, this stock clearly you do not like. Enjoy.
Honestly, management just came out and updated, so basically your fears are misplaced. I believe negative opinionated statements are warranted when they are followed up with a lot of circumstantial information. I do not like to post negative commentary just based on my own insecurities and fears, like you did. We can all agree and press our negative posts on management and Nils and how they communicate because the data there shows his behavior. But unfounded negative posts with emotions so high are very scary for those whose emotions are running wild. This is what I believe. You are free to say what you want, obviously, but this is a forum and I will share the reasons I believe its more harmful to post willy nilly negative posts than lofty positive ones.
Your statement wasnt just negative, it could be destructive because everyone could of been thinking that their investment went in the trash, all based on 1 or 2 random posters who have been in the stock for a few months.
What are they moving this on? Even what they are trying to move it on is a lie. There is no anticipation or buildup. Jim wants anything, he is going to have to merge something in.
The level of sleaze is crazy to me. This has been in the doghouse for how long and we still have this shady back and forth with those powers that be. One always pushing off on the other. It is ludicrous.
Thank you for sharing this!
True. Very true. I just think everyone can get spooked and I don't think posting about a negative potential scenario is helpful unless it is backed with some data. The mind can be a terrible thing when you are left to your own devices. And I think I come on strongly when I see posts like this because those that read the board can really go down a dark rabbit hole.
Everything is emotions. I don't see the point of randomly telling a board of people that their is a failure in something for which you don't know based on an opinion. That is an emotional response and knee jerk reaction. Just like anything posted on a forum. That's usually done out of boredom and at some level, emotional response. So, yes. People take what you write to heart and there is no data to back that up.
People could take it is as you making stuff up to drop the pps and get in lower like you just stated.
I don't know much about the audit process. I can only go by what I read and them emails I have sent. If there is an auditor in this room, I would enjoy their feedback as to this process and why something like this could take a CPA some time to adjust the financials like they have stated.
We can agree Nils is missing us off.
Do you know how long audits take for varying types of companies? Do you know the process? Do you know how many people they have working on it? Do you know anything about it?
I understand the uncertainty, but to come onto the board and tell people, as if you haven't sold already, that they have failed either means you were told insider information or just asking stuff up.
Unfortunately, we have to wait for management. But don't go spreading information around like you were told something.
Why even mouth their thoughts on something being wrong. Just get out and move on. Unless you have data, why continue to post?