But.. BTSC has $20,000 worth of mining hardware.. that's legit! [/sarcasm]

Yup, that's exactly what I did, 5 minutes after I bought in.

Weird day! We closed GREEN, many other cryptos closed red.. and the tinyest one I know of QUADRUPLED ITSELF today!

When short sellers sell short, their broker has to agree to let them "borrow" shares that the broker is holding for other, long shareholders. Including you & me. "Short selling" MEANS "selling shares that you don't own" - there's a buyer on the other end of the transaction, the shares he buys have to come from somewhere.

"Actually Mining" matters! I made that point on the BTSCAM forum, mentioned that this will have 20 times the mining capacity of BTSCAM's 15, old, S7 machines, and for a sub percent fraction of the price!

BEST PART...we should have a market cap equal or better than BTSCAM's - at 180 million, theirs is outrageously high (I'd say 1.8 million is closer to right), but at 85k, ours is shockingly low (we should be near 20 million MC). We have a TON of upside here. I am holding long for the duration.

Noob question @ChicagoJosh.. what is "L2"?

Even at $0.0005 with 100 mining rigs, a dollar invested here buys more mining capacity than a dollar invested in MGTI. And 100 of S9 machines is only the beginning... 2000 machines is their stated goal.

I put half a week's pay on this n losing all won't hurt me - so I'm holding for the duration. I have sell limit orders set at $1.00, 60 days, just so my shares can't be loaned to shorts.

I must apologize - in my last post, I gave bad info while comparing BTSC to SANP. It appears SANP is much more diluted than the 422 million shares eTrade reported.. more like 7.35 billion SANP shares have been issued.

So, their planned 20x advantage (rel. BTSC) in mining capacity, is offset (on a per share basis) by their 20x more share dilution. So, a $0.0002 share of SANP represents the same mining capacity as a $0.38 share of BTSC. (each BTSC share claims 152 kH/s, each SANP will claim 179.6 kH/s (once their 100 S9's are installed, assuming no further dilution (not likely..)). That's kilohashes per second, where a billion kilohashes equals one terahash, and one S9 delivers 13 terahashes per second... and each MGTI share represents 1.38 gigahashes/second.)

In other words, here's about how many, at what total price, of each company's shares that you would have to buy to own the equivalent mining capacity of one $5,000 Antminer S9:
BTSC - 87 million shares, $33,000,000;
SANP - 74 million shares, $14,700;
MGTI - 9,600 shares, $37,100

Can you see just how far from anything like "reality" this BTSC closing price is? But, don't take my word for it.. PLEASE prove me wrong, crunch the numbers for yourself! (a few of my numbers are deliberately "off" by up to 10%.. can you find them, correct my errors? Maybe then you'll see how far from reality this BTSC closing price is... The SANP share number mistake wasn't deliberate, and was large enough to require this correction. Sorry for that)

This BTSC run is a bubble, balanced on the sharp end of a pin. The only reason it hasn't burst yet, is that it hasn't burst yet (sort of like how Paris Hilton is "famous for being famous"). People are buying because the charts say "other people are buying, so you should buy". Charts, MACD oscillators etc., do NOT calculate whether a company can ever be profitable, they don't "see" the cliff - they ONLY measure which way, and how fast the herd HAS BEEN running.

Moderators: I'm not promoting other companies here - I just think it's really important to "pull the curtain aside" and expose the total lack of substance in BTSC - and I can't think of any way to do that without comparing BTSC to other companies.

(DISCLOSURE: Right now, I own zero shares of MGTI or SANP, 10 shares of BTSC, and 5 shares of BTCS. I plan to buy MGTI and SANP. If people make investment decisions based on my comments here, that will lower the value of my $3.75 (before commission) BTSC position while potentially raising my price to take positions in MGTI and SANP. I'm not writing for personal gain, I'm writing because my conscience compels me to write.)

I believe you. Thank you. But.. in your description, where does the short seller make money?

@realtrade77 - BTSC does Bitcoin mining (transaction verification services), using 15 of Antminer S7 machines having a total "hash rate" of 70 terahash/second.

For comparison, "Slush Pool" Bitcoin mining pool runs at around 1,200,000 terahash/second. At that rate, they earn about 10 Bitcoin every hour. That's $160,000/hour which they divide among 50,000 members (people who link their own hardware to the pool and contribute mining capacity). So, BTSC can expect it's hardware to produce 10 Bitcoin roughly once every 18000 hours - about $160,000 (today's prices, and ignoring operating costs..) for holders of its half-billion shares, once every three years.

Another comparison: MGTI (46 million shares, $3.85/sh) is building (est. completion by March '18) a 70,000 terahash mining facility which should collect 15 Bitcoin roughly every day. Also, Santo Mining (SANP, 422M shares, $0.0002/sh) is building a 1,300 terahash mining operation (20 times more than BTSC) which should bring in $160,000 (at current prices) of Bitcoin every 90 days.

Projecting earnings from reported, intended future installations of mining hardware is somewhat risky. I offset that risk with the assumption of zero increase in Bitcoin price. Still, I see MGTI as a 1000x better investment, and SANP as a 40,000x better investment than BTSC for a given dollar investment.

So... BTSC does almost nothing, even compared to the "50 shares for a penny" SANP. Mostly, what BTSC does is sell stock to people who aren't looking past the "Bitcoin" in their name.

As I understand it (having never sold short myself)... First, one asks their broker for permission to sell short / enable shorting on one's account. (account minimum value rules apply, not everyone can short, mostly the bigger fish). Then, when you put in a short order, your broker "lends" you that many "borrowed" shares, and sells them on your behalf. So, if you short 10,000 shares today, you'd RECEIVE about $37,500 at today's price.

BUT - you'd better hold that money (Broker may not let you spend it right away), because within like 5 days, you MUST "BUY to cover" your short position. So, you MUST BUY 10,000 shares within 5 days. If the price drops to $2.90/share when you BtC, you only spend $29,000 to cover your short - you keep the remaining $8,500 from the $37,500 you received originally. But, if the price rises and stays up, eventually you MUST BUY at the higher price. If it rose to $4.75 and held there, you'd have to spend the $37,500 and an additional $10,000 to cover your short. That would be a $1/sh loss.

The dangerous thing about shorting, is that as prices rise, some people sell to take profits and capitalize on increasing numbers of buyers, but some are more inclined to hold for further increases. This can reduce the number of shares available to buy, right when you NEED to buy - forcing you and other shorts to bid even higher for the shares you need. That is called "short squeeze" - if you want to see what it can be, look back about a year in the DRYS chart.

Right. I'm just saying "shorts MUST BUY" is potentially a positive for longs. I think the biggest thing standing against my hope of organizing a short squeeze, is that, if a lot of people replied with "I'm on board, all my shares are tied to $1000/sh sell orders now", the potential shorts will see the trap forming and not short. (which would leave current shorts in a more desperate situation...)

Anyway, my standard practice is to put in an outrageous 60 day sell order on all my shares, just so mine can't be shorted.

Shorts MUST cover. They MUST BUY. But, if nobody's selling, they must bid up the price in order to cover. If they can't buy from long sellers, they can buy from other short sellers.

MY shares can't be shorted - I just put in 60 day orders to sell 1/6 of mine at $15.65 per share (to recover my original stake), and to sell the remaining 5/6 at $1000.00 per share. Since all of my shares are tied to sell orders, my broker can't loan my shares to a short seller. If enough people did this, we'd soon see a short squeeze, where the shorts get burned hard...

I'm holding! People will start shorting this, but then we can squeeze them.

Funny thing: today, the same $ investment buys the same % stake in each of MGTI or BTSC. (BTSC is 1/10 of MGTI share price, but has issued 10x as many shares) BUT, MGTI currently has 200 times more mining capacity, and by March it will have ONE THOUSAND TIMES MORE mining capacity (our 5000 of Antminer S9, vs BTSC's 15 of Antminer S7). If our price is "right", then BTSC should really be priced down around $0.0038/sh. If BTSC is priced "right" at its current $0.38, then our MGTI shares should be worth $400.00/share.

I believe that, when MGTI'S mining hardware is fully operational, we will see EPS around $1. (assuming a modest 50% rise in $BTC over next 12 months, and assuming zero further hardware buys). Right now, MGTI is priced at an (f)EPS multiple of 4. That's LOW. Most financial companies with "Buy" ratings are priced around 17 times EPS. But, I think of MGTI as more of a TRANSPORTATION company - it's mining business basically earns money for the service of transporting money through the blockchain from buyers to sellers. It's the "other side" of FedEx's business (transporting goods from sellers to buyers) FedEx and UPS shares are priced at EPS multiples around 25.

I believe the "right" price for MGTI is an EPS multiple of 30, which means I expect us to see $30/share in 12 months. Why would I sell below that?

If you mean me.. I'm still long here. Not very long, TEN shares... if I sell, commission means I pay more than I get. I get even if we see 0.60. This is my "Rube Goldberg investment" - totally worthless, but fun to watch....

"Dead Cat Bounce" - EXACTLY!

Funny thing: BTSCam is up 65% today BUT... 10x as many shares, for 1/10 MGTI price, means the same $ buys the same % of each company, and THIS company has A THOUSAND TIMES MORE mining capacity.

The SMART money is here in MGTI!

@SmartMoney.. "don't get high on your own supply" awesome flick, so many great quotes! "Say so long to the bad guy!"

When I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Congrats to all. Still. I see nothing here but hype and herd mentality.. this stock isn't rising because it's fundamentally good... it's "good" because it's rising. That seems to be working for now. But I'm very certain that reality will catch up here, and when it does, my money will be working in a company that costs 10x per share (but has 1/10 the shares), and has 1000 TIMES more mining hardware capacity.

Still, this BTSC run will benefit me, bc sooner or later some of you will take profits from here and bid me up over there.

But for today, here, I can admit that I was wrong about $0.09 today. Congrats to all, enjoy the ride!

"Return to 0.10" predicted on 11/29. Buy if you want to... but I see nothing in this company except a webpage (complete with Parker Brothers "Monopoly" style logo - have you seen it? It LOOKS like a joke!), a 40 Bitcoin wallet (about $640,000 usd) and $25,000 worth of mining capacity.

Oh... and HALF A BILLION SHARES to spread all that out to. So.. 20,000 shares, ($2000, if you can get 'em at $0.10 each), buys you one millionth of a $25,000, 70 terahash mining rig. If that rig brings in $12,000 per month, your $2000 buys you twelve thousandths of a dollar each and every month. In 80 months, those will add up to a whole dollar.

There is no fundamental value here. None. Zero. The ONLY hope here is that BTSC execs were behind the recent P&D, AND they plan to take their stock profits and buy a real mining setup. But.. they already GOT their money! If I was them, I'd be spending the money on false identities and Caribbean islands. If you're buying this because you're hoping other people will be dumb enough to pay you more for it.... the guy who sells it to you thanks you for being "that guy" for him.

I have a theory: Bitcoin stocks moving opposite BTC right now, because people Who were in these stocks, have sold out in order to buy Bitcoin itself and get in on this run. As these companies actually get PLANNED mining facilities OPERATING, the money (including much of BTC's recent gains) will come back here. The key will be stocks (like MGTI) which actually have large mining capacities, as opposed to some of the BT SCams out there which are nothing but hype.

Patience will pay off here! These stock price declines are OPPORTUNITIES! GLTYA

0.62 to 0.20 - "it's just a flesh wound!"

Crypto stocks drop as $BTC rises - my theory:

Simple, really.. $BTC has been on an incredible run. We've all put money in these various stocks hoping they would work as BTC proxies, rise in conjunction with Bitcoin. We've all seen Bitcoin taking massive leaps while our chosen proxies post small gains or sometimes even losses.

My theory is that some of us have chosen to abandon these proxies, try to sell out on a rise, take whatever cash we can and buy BTC itself RIGHT NOW!, maybe with the hope of using future BTC profits to buy back into some of these stocks later.

The story with all of these crypto stocks is "we're building... developing... anticipating future success once our mining facility is running.." Some of these companies WILL BE great investments down the road, once their machines start MAKING Bitcoin.. but money in these stocks today, waiting for next week or next month, is missing TODAY'S profits from Bitcoin itself.

Raise your hand if you've sold a crypto stock in the last month and used the sale proceeds to buy Bitcoin.

What I hope to see from BTCS soon:

I'm holding my 10,000 shares until I see BTCS actually open their much-touted but invisible E-COMMERCE SITE. When that hits, and starts to work, I anticipate a buyout by Amazon.

I think the rumored merger will provide a nice bump in the interim, but for me, these shares will become Amazon shares before I sell.

OR.. this company totally missed the boat, when Amazon starts accepting BTC payments on its own site.

Still holding my 10sh @.09, won't buy more until I see this company put out a press release like this one:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mgt-capital-provides-update-of-cryptocurrency-operations-300567968.html

For me, the measure of a company's ability to capitalize on $BTC explosion is directly related to its mining capacity. OUR company here has the equivalent of FIVE Antminer S9. That PR I linked, describes 500 MORE, for a total of 5000.

And, that company has only issued 1/10 as many shares as our company here. Guess what I bought more of this morning...

I did some quick, rough math. It looks to me like MGTI has about 860 (operating), 170 (on hand awaiting setup) and 3650 (on order)... 4680 (total) of Antmuner S9 mining rigs at 13 TH/s each. Total (when all received & installed) of 64 PH/s of mining capacity.

Slush Pool was running today with a combined 1200 PH/s of mining capacity, and at that rate they were solving one block every 90 minutesz and receiving about 15 BTC for each block. That's 240 BTC per day.

MGTI's target capacity will be 5% of Slush Pool, so we can forecast about 12 BTC every day to MGTI. At $12,000/BTC, that's $144,000 per day of revenues, less about a third for costs, is about $96k per day. Call it $100k, times 365 days, is 36 million per year.

36 million per year (forecasted earnings) over 48 million shares, works out to a $0.75/share earnings forecast. Which makes today's closing price at just over a PE ratio of 3.

That's not too shabby. In fact, that makes MGTI look like a bargain to me!

"GBTC up 10% how come BTSC down?" If you ask me (and you did..), it's because BTSC doesn't own enough crypto mining capacity to cover it's payroll, let alone any revenues to link it to moves in $BTC price. Seriously, one can buy the same amount of mining capacity (70 TH/s, buy 5 of Antminer S9) as this company has (per their last quarterly report, 15 of Antminer S7)) for about $25,000, and it'll pay for itself (at $BTC = $12,000 USD) in about 2 months with a $12k/mo revenue stream. But, if you buy $25,000 of this stock, 75,000 shares, you only own a 75/460,000 slice of that mining capacity.

That's why this stock SHOULD crash - I think it's being buoyed by people's hopes for astronomical gains in $BTC (nevermind that in THAT case, MGTI's 860 operating, 170 on hand, 3650 on order, about 4700 total of Antminer S9, would still be a much better investment...) Or, people are simply trading on chart signals and herd mentality without considering the value basis here.

Funny historical note - before it was called BTCS, this company was actually named "Tulip Biomed". As in.. Dutch tulips...

"The market disagrees with you".. not if we include the rest of the market, the millions who have stayed far away from these penny cryptos. Do you realize that Bitcoin's current market cap - though amazing - is still only about 4 times the amount lost by investors in each of: the Enron collapse, and the Bernie Madoff fraud? Less, if you adjust those scandals for inflation. So, if BTC fell to zero tomorrow (it won't..) the "scandal" would only be a but bigger than either of those. Bitcoin is big.. but there are a LOT of investor dollars (including every dollar in anyone's 401k..) that are NOT in BTC or any of these stocks.

YES! That means we're all in early, with incredible potential ahead, as crypto gains credibility and begins to be opened to and accepted by more "traditional" investors. But "credibility" doesn't really come from "buy enough obsolete (S7) mining rigs to take a pretty picture for the web page, build that web page with a shiny Parker Brothers "Monopoly" style logo, then divide the mining hardware's $200.00/ day revenue stream over half a billion shares of stock".

All I'm asking for really is some credibility from this company, and I'm asking it's investors to realize how incredulous this current price really is compared to even the most optimistic hopes for Bitcoin's future.

I don't mean to beat a dead horse. But I think someone needed to say "hey, I think that horse is dead, look at the ropes holding it up..."

It's your money, do what you want with it. I've taken my loss here, and cleared my conscience.. I'm done with BTSC. GLTYA

"Generating revenue"... at 70TH/sec? An early post yesterday was from someone saying they lease 23TH/sec of capacity and net $45 per day.

Maybe you're right, and this company fully intends to grow itself and significantly increase shareholder value long term. If so, it isn't a scam. But nothing about the company right now justifies the 400% surge we saw last week. Their 40 Bitcoin in hand ($480,000 USD), plus the present value of a (being generous) $300.00/day revenue stream, plus (what else do they have?) ... Divided between 460 million shareholders... puts the share value closer to $0.002 IMO.

Fifteen of old model S7 mining rigs seems to me to be just enough to TAKE THE PICTURE of "our mining facility" for promo purposes - I can't rule out "scam" until I see book value get up within about 1/3 of share price.

I'm a big believer in bootstrapping. I've participated in several entrepreneurial start-ups. But I don't believe in issuing hundreds of millions of shares as "Global Logistics" when I'm really one guy delivering packages on one bicycle..

If I said "Hey, I'm starting a gold mining company, so I've issued 460 million shares. My mining operation consists of a wood handled shovel and a 14" gold pan, and I can process 70 pounds of paydirt per hour. I average about $200(USD)/day of gold recovered"... How serious would you think my "operation" was? At $200/day, I barely cover my own wage, how much value per share can my pan&shovel recover for 460 MILLION shareholders?

This company last reported that it owns 70 terahash/second of mining capacity as 15 of Antminer S7, 4.7TH/s machines.THATS NOTHING! MGTI buys the 3x faster S9 machines, they have 860 in operation, 170 on hand that they're setting up, and 3650 on order to arrive over next several weeks. THAT is a mining operation - when completed, it will have about 1000x the capacity of BTSC's paltry 15 machines.

So, yes, promoting yourself as a "mining company" when you don't have enough mining equipment to pay your own wage... and issuing 460 million shares to investors hoping to share in your mining proceeds... IS A SCAM!

So, if this company has 70TH/s of capacity, divided among 460 million shares, one would need to buy 150 million shares to have the equivalent of what you lease, (which pays you $45/day). Your 23.5 TH/s is just shy of being two Antminer S9's, which would cost maybe $12,000, instead of the FIFTY MILLION price of 150 million of these shares. I know of a company with one tenth the number of shares, and 5 PETAhash/sec (70x BTSC's 70..) of capacity. And that one doesn't cost 700times this price ($0.34), it costs about $2.25/sh. Why is anyone here? Have I missed a BTSC announcement of a major capacity increase?

(disclosure, I hold 10sh BTSC, and 70 (planning more) of the other.)

"On September 6, 2016, the Company secured a 3,500 square foot facility, and fifteen new Bitmain Antminers S7 Batch 8, stable at 4.73TH/s. Antminer S7 ~4.73TH/s @ .25W/GH 28nm ASIC Bitcoin Miners."

I found that in the last quarterly report. Is 70 terahash a lot? (4.7 x 15 = 70)

It's all good. That was really my point - not to complain, but just to suggest that we might think about these crypto stocks a little differently since they actually manufacture "money". They should ALL make us very happy down the road.

Speaking of which... "road"... I was holding 5k shares of BTSC @ $0.0975 when my damn car took a dump. I sold 4990 shares at $0.0775 to raise part of the cash I needed for a replacement vehicle - my weekend will be "enjoyed" under the new old car, fixing on it. Decision to sell THIS stock was based partly on seeing BTSC fail to join (and often, move counter to) it's peers (BTCS, GAHC, MGTI) in rising when BTC rose, and partly bc too many here were calling this "BTSCam". (thanks for that, guys...) So, yeah, instead of cashing in a 5 bagger for $2500, I missed that party and am still holding 10 shares worth $4.14.

Who knows? Maybe BTSC becomes the next Amazon, and in 2025 i sell these 10 shares for $2k/sh. Maybe BTCS (i hold 10k there) gets their ecommerce site running and Amazon buys them out at $2/sh. No worries, It's ALL GOOD.

I agree, blockchain is an amazing technology that has potential to revolutionize voting. But, the thing that secures Bitcoin is the fact that coins are created only one way, and every coin (or fraction) used in any transaction is traceable back to the transaction which created it.

The problem with blockchain for voting is anonymity and auditing.

Let's assume a few things about a blockchain voting system. First, one must register to vote (join a union, visit a BoE office, buy a share of stock.. the context doesn't matter here). Let's assume that you are registering somewhere, and the authority records your name on a list of "registered voters", AND then uses a voting system program to generate a printed card for you , containing a scan box that encodes a random "secret key" that is now yours. The system might record that SK (but not your name) on a list of "SK already issued" (to prevent the infinitesimal chance of random duplication), or it might keep no record. On voting day, you show up, identify yourself, sign in.. the clerks verify that you are registered to vote and give you access to the voting machine. The system voting machine scans your SK card, generates "public keys" from it, and records each vote you make in conjunction with a PK which demonstrates that it was cast by the anonymous holder of a valid SK. (here, "valid" assumes that the machine checked the scanned SK against the list of "issued SK", or it assumes that any SK scanned by the machine is valid because it was presented by a verified registered voter). The machine can print a record on a backup paper roll, and can even print a receipt for the voter showing their votes and PKs. Probably, the last thing the voting machine should do is put the voter's SK on a list of "expired SK", so that card (or a copy) won't scan a second time.

That should work to secure your vote - the votechain is a public ledger, you can see all the votes cast and the PK associated with.. You can audit your own votes, comparing your own printed receipt to the public record, to confirm that your vote did count the way you voted it. THEORETICALLY, it becomes possible for a large group of voters to audit a vote by bringing in all their receipts. ("Theoretically", because you'd need more people to show up holding "I voted for declared loser" receipts, than the total number of votes credited to "declared winner". But, not completely impossible..)

BUT... What about "ballot box stuffing"? What stops the people holding that SK generating card printer, from printing a few thousand extra cards? What stops them from casting votes for themselves with these cards when nobody is looking? With multiple voting locations and machines, what stops them from keeping a few "spare" machines in their backroom, turned on and taking votes? Because of the anonymity necessary for voting, and provided by blockchain, it actually becomes fairly easy for voting authorities (and crooked system designers) to stuff phantom votes into the final count. To invalidate even one fraudulent vote, you would need EVERY voter to show their receipt to prove "i did not cast this vote". Only then could investigators start asking "how did THAT vote get into the system?"

In many ways, blockchain could make voting better and more accurate. But, widespread overconfidence in its "infallibility" would actually make voting easier to manipulate and ultimately worse.

SORRY for the length here - I wrote all this in a (feeble?) effort to ensure that it never happens.

With HONESTLY no backdoors in GAHC voting tech (I'm not making that claim, just postulating a hypothetical..), the VOTERS will want it, but the BUYERS (those already in power) will RESIST buying it as long as they can...

"BTSC the real winner"..THIS week. What makes this company superior? Better management? (read the forum intro again...) Maybe they have a better mining operation? (ok, show me.. are they doing ANY mining? How much?)

I remember the week that MGTI was the winner, and the week it was BTCS.. what fundamental improvement has caused this one to pass up those others in a few short weeks?

Can I propose a thought experiment? Imagine that Trump decided to make a law where anyone with a printer can get a license to print USD $100 bills on standard newsprint paper. Let's say then that one hour later, the NYTimes, Chicago Tribune, Miami Herald.. EVERY newspaper announces that they have applied for their licenses to print cash.

So... Setting aside the hyper-inflation component of unrestricted cash printing, let's assume that a lot of people would want to buy shares of all those new money printing companies. Here's the question: Would the rise in NYT share price be proportional to the rate they can print? I say NO - there would be some lag in share price, because the amount of money "out there" for buying into the printing companies, is finite.

THAT is what I think we're seeing in these cryptocurrency stocks. With BTC above 10K, there just aren't enough of us here with enough cash to bid these to what they should be priced at (assuming responsible management, zero fraud, basic sound business practice). These shares can only increase in price at the rate that NEW money is attracted here. Otherwise, we're just passing the same dollars back and forth, trying to get rich off each other.. trying to get a bigger slice of the pie we made when we put our dollars in.

THIS IS WHY only one if these penny cryptos will surge at a time - we look for which one seems poised to jump, and we all try to get in that one Long term, they should ALL rise, based on the money they earn charging exchange trading fees, or the money they MAKE by mining. The best investment here is the one that has the most potential - on the operations side - to generate the most NEW money per share dollar invested.

I'm not gonna play the day trader game, trying to profit from your higher price purchase... I'm taking long positions across the board, and holding ... They'll ALL BE HUNDRED BAGGERS in due time.

@BigHoss "We'll see $1.50-$2" - that's BTCS, not BTSC (and I know you know this isn't the BTCS forum, because you also posted the same message over there..)

Personally, I agree with you, BTCS will reach $2, and before BTSC does - I'm very long there, with a $4.10 position here. I just wanted it to be clear that your predictions are about the other stock, not this forum's stock.

I'm just spitballing here.. but seeking opinions... This company has two operating segments. Something in bitcoin/crypto/blockchain, and electronic elections mostly for labor unions. Seems like a strange mix. But... Running elections for unions puts GAHC in touch with union/DNC Party people & money. Elections "should be" heavily secured and not easily manipulated. Blockchain tech is a great way to provide that, if it's implemented honestly. If you are a union or Party leader who wants to control the outcomes of elections, the best scenario is to employ an e-voting tech that you can CLAIM is "secured with blockchain crypto tech", but with backdoors only you and the programmers know about. The $value of that system and the power it gives, is immense! ALSO, one DNC goal is a "cap & trade carbon exchange" - which could also be built on a blockchain system. The company which provides the backbone for that exchange (when the DNC is in a position to implement C&T as environmental law) will make a fortune, probably a percentage of every carbon credits trade. I think GAHC is highly connected politically, and positioning itself to profit immensely from political interests of the DNC and its union allies. I'll never not own some of this....