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In my opinion the AmpliTech products are lagging edge technology as well with average performance. The reality is there is nothing exciting about their actual products they sell.
How is a Net loss of ($549K) YTD a return to profitability?
Hi Traderfan, I do not have a personal vendetta against this company or the CEO. I have never been to the company and I have never met the CEO. I just don't like when companies exaggerate their press releases the way AmpliTech does. Just provide an honest reality so investors can make decisions based on accuracy.
Hi Traderfan, you should welcome others opinions. You should also be kind and not mean to others. I wish you the best. No matter how much you and YoPro like to insult others.
Hi YoPro,
I do not know why you need to insult people with different opinions. I consider your comments rude and insulting. You act like a bully.
Hi YoPro,
I just want AmpliTech to provide honest information. It is that simple. Let's be kind and say their press releases are exaggerated. I do not believe there is reality in most of their press releases.
Hi YoPro,
I understand. You only want to hear positive news. The truth does not matter. You feel the need to insult others that voice messages that are not what you want to hear.
Hi Mike,
I like the Made in USA comment. Then they show a product made in Korea.
Hi YoPro, Thanks for your comments. Maybe this will help you understand. Here is a 5G amplifier 28 GHz with 8W Pout. The price is $475 for qty 1.
https://store.qorvo.com/products/detail/tga2595-cp-qorvo/496848/
https://www.skyworksinc.com/en/Products/Amplifiers
Hopefully this will help you realize. AmpliTech's Designs cannot compete with the Qorvo's, MACOM's, Skyworks, Guerrilla RF, and many more. Skyworks sells 5G LNA's for just a few dollars. Amplitech's prices are too high to be in the 5G market.
Do your research it does not take long.
Thanks Advisors. These investors listen to the buzz words but they don't verify the reality. Then they wonder why the stock value does not go up.
Good luck, you only want to hear positive posts. You don't want to hear other opinions. Here you go see link below, the exclusive Distributor with no inventory and no data sheets on these products that IMO don't exist. Don't do research and buy many more shares. Guess what you did it again. No more replies from me.
https://www.ecmstockroom.com/products/AMPLI/manufacturer?page=2
Hello Kizersosae, I am very sorry for telling you what IMO is the truth. Take a look at this link below. Products they promote but IMO there is no evidence they even exist. I will go quiet again and please keep investing and good luck.
https://d2f6h2rm95zg9t.cloudfront.net/99353527/Product_Guide_Cryogenic_Amplifiers_98082287.pdf
Is it really the Coronavirus, or could it be the products IMO are just average?
Do all of you AmpliTech investors verify their products performance vs competitors?
Do you really believe AmpliTech products will work in 5G, Quantum Computing, and Autonomous Vehicles?
Hi Mike, Did you ever consider Microphase is selling the stocks because they no longer believe AMPG is a good stock.
Did AmpliTech lose their ISO9001 Quality rating? It expired, see link below from AmpliTech website.
http://amplitechinc.com/about/iso-certificate
Hi Mike, To answer your question about the removed cryogenic LNA data sheets. In my opinion other than 1 part the products do not exist.
However, this is just an opinion.
Hi Ramnasty
The revenue did not increase as you state in Q1 2018.
It actually went down. Look in the AMPG finacial report for yourself.
Sales Q1 2017 $458,600 in Sales Q1 2018 $428,541 (This is Down)
As for the new products. Every New Product data sheet has been removed from the Distributors website. Take a look for yourself.
https://www.ecmstockroom.com/products/AMPLI/manufacturer?page=2
Take a look at this Data Sheet and tell us what you think?
https://www.ecmstockroom.com/writable/items/pdf_files/aptc5-04000800-2k00-g3d6-v.pdf
Go to the "Doesn't match LNF" Why is this there?
Are we sure these products really exist?
Or debooked?
And we will all be counting when the Q2 numbers come out.
Remember the 250 pc order that was placed by ECM the AmpliTech Distributor?
Here is the order now. Qty appears to be decreased from 250 pcs to 25 pcs.
https://www.ecmstockroom.com/products/apt2017002501019d2/view
In 2017 Q1 Sales were $458,600 and they ended up losing $97K for the year
In 2018 Q1 Sales were $428,541 so they are down.
How is this good news?
Ask AmpliTech
1. Do they have a Helium Cryo Cooler to test these LNA's?
2. Ask them to provide actual cold test data of each of the new cryo LNA's? ***Get the actual data***
Room Temp measurements mean nothing in a Cryo Cooler
Then, come back to this board and let everyone know whatever the outcome. Good or Bad
To all of you investors. Take an unbiased approach to protect your investment and prove to us non-believers we are wrong.
Just ask them, what is there to lose?
If these products really exist and they have been tested at 4K, 6K, or 8K. You are all good.
But is they don't have these products or they have never been tested.
Then this will be as bad as it gets.
Customers will place orders and systems will fail.
It cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to millions of dollars to build these systems.
For a system to fail because of an untested non-compliant LNA would be catastropic.
Ask AmpliTech
1. Do they have a Helium Cryo Cooler to test these LNA's?
2. Ask them to provide actual cold test data of each of the new cryo LNA's? ***Get the actual data***
Room Temp measurements mean nothing in a Cryo Cooler
Then, come back to this board and let everyone know whatever the outcome. Good or Bad
To all of you investors. Take an unbiased approach to protect your investment and prove to us non-believers we are wrong.
Just ask them, what is there to lose?
If these products really exist and they have been tested at 4K, 6K, or 8K. You are all good.
But is they don't have these products or they have never been tested.
Then this will be as bad as it gets.
Customers will place orders and systems will fail.
It cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to millions of dollars to build these systems.
For a system to fail because of an untested non-compliant LNA would be catastropic.
Hi OBrien, I did not take off.
These cryogenic plots are not real test data, just estimated.
You proved it when you sent the link of their actual test data that was only room temp. You even said they do not have this test equipment.
Why don't you ask AmpliTech? Ask them if they tested the product at 4 Kelvin. Ask them where this data they posted comes from?
Just ask and prove me wrong. Very easy
But when they tell you NO. Never tested. Please let us all know.
Unfortunately the answer you will get is NO (Never Tested). Just a best guess.
There is 1 LNA that exists. But who knows the real data?
For sure AmpliTech does not. They cannot even test it.
These are untested LNA's and the rest do not even exist.
Time will prove this out. And very quickly.
Systems will fail and good luck to you all.
Yes, I see zero inventory. Just dates being pushed out.
I aslo see it is not posted on AmpliTech's website. Why not?
Why has there never been any invertory?
Why is the product not on their website?
How do they test cryogenically when they do not have the equipment?
If you believe the products exist, good luck to you all.
Too many red flags going on here for me to be a believer.
Now I am gone for good.
Hi OBrien,
Cryo test data of products that do not appear to exist. Fasinating
Not on thier website, not available at their distributor.
Good Luck with AMPG. I wish you the best
Hi OBrien,
You keep proving my point.
The Cryogenic test data is shown by Low Noise Factory on the link you showed below.
Did you not see it? It shows both room temp and cryogenic data.
Take a look a little closer at the link you provided.
I think you will see it this time.
http://research.physics.illinois.edu/bezryadin/labprotocol/LNF-LNC4_8A%20sn021_Jan2013.pdf
Hi OBrien, Show us all the data at 4 Kelvin.
Again, how did you get the room temp data that is not on a website?
Hi OBrien,
Every cryogenic LNA needs to be tested cold.
Whoever is telling you testing at room temp is acceptable is wrong.
How can room temp data have any comparison with performance at -452 degrees Fahrenheit? It just cannot.
Only testing a cryo LNA at room temp is really bad and systems will surely fail everywhere.
The fact that they do not test them cold means the data sheet is not real.
OBrien, You proved my point.
Where do you get that data sheet with actual data? I do not see it online?
You obviously are connected with Amplitech.
Anyway, you just proved it is untested at 4 Kelvin. Now we all know for sure.
Look at the data. Room temp data only, 296 Kelvin.
The data sheet link you showed has no cryogenic test data. NONE, Nothing else to say.
So they have 1 untested product.
Does it work to the specs they claim? Very unlikely.
How can they claim any cryogenic performance if it has never been tested?
https://www.ecmstockroom.com/writable/items/pdf_files/aptc3-06000800-1k00-d4-v.pdf
This is why I said do the research yourselves. Then make your own conclusions.
Show us 4 Kelvin actual test data. This should be available if it exists.
Just get the data. It is that simple.
Look at their words closely. "Noise figures as low as 2K are possible"
Does not say the data is measured.
If a product exist, it appears is has never been tested cold.
What new amps do they have?
If such amps exist then why are they not on thier website?
There is no evidence the product you talk about even exists.
To all you people being convinced to buy this stock.
Don't just listen to folks opinions.
Do the research on the actual performance compared to similar products.
Customers are going to buy on the actual performance for the price.
Good point Mike,
I did consider investing. The more I looked the worse AmpliTech looked.
So I am done on this message board. I clearly understand you all only want good news and to believe. I wish you all the best.
AmpliTech uses in my opinion old lagging edge technologies.
If AmpliTech said their technology is to bring GaN on Silicon into new amplifier products, or new GaN MMIC’s, SiGe MMIC’s, or anything exciting. I would consider buying the stock
These are the type of statements you hear from Leading Edge companies like Qorvo, MACOM, Analog, Skyworks. The type of companies that went from millions to hundreds of millions, and to some to Billions of dollars.
But they use in my opinion lagging edge boring old technologies as Discrete PHEMT’s, Discrete Transistors, and other lagging technologies.
They can still be successful, but it is not exciting for me.
You all can invest in lagging edge technologies and good luck.
Hi OBrien,
In my opinion, made in Korea again. Just put in a simple enclosure. Also made by RFHIC the exact same part number.
In my opinion, if they made this, how can the specs by identical. This just does not happen. Do they select the exact same devices and build with the exact same design? http://rfhic.com/eng/prod/view.html?idx=198
This uses wideband GaN devices from Qorvo, Wolfspeed and MACOM. US Companies.
There is no evidence on AmpliTech's website that they use GaN devices other than the product they appear to be getting from Korea.
GaN Devices need a completely different assembly technique. They need to be eutectic bonded or they will fail. They need completely different regulators. Again, in my opinion, It is not similar to an AmpliTech product.
Hi OBiren, Do you work for AmpliTech or know people at AmpliTech?
How do you know? "AMPG used another company’s core. added heatsink,fans"
This is extremely detailed information you have. How did you come to this conclusion?
Did they use RFHIC amplifier to resell under AmpliTech brand without any notice or agreement from RFHIC?
I am not Advisors and I am not a competitor.
OBrien, During my research that I believe you originally wrote on this board. I looked up the specs AmpliTech published. It matched RFHIC's specs so I emailed RFHIC. Here is what RFHIC in Korea said. 4 pieces of RWP15080-10 were sold to AmpliTech.