Maybe TC said that in a private communication. We all remember how some posters alleged that they were privy to secret communications with Li.

Quote: Would be generous if Apple incorporated the Liquidmetal brand name, even if LQMT never receives a dime. The name recognition would give LQMT credibility …

It isn’t quite using the Liquidmetal brand, but I seem to recall the enthusiastic joy and optimistic predictions when Apple started using “Liquid Metal” as a watch face name. Unfortunately nothing ever came out of that.

I agree with and understand your sentiment, but I do disagree with your characterization of forward looking statements on CCs. From my experience, the forward looking statements warning sounds like the generic, boilerplate warnings that I have heard from multiple other companies.

Awesome, maybe TC will buy more shares. That will give us an idea of the impact of this licensing agreement.

QUOTE: The bigger the innovation the longer the first bite of the Apple takes and the longer the adoption takes and the longer EVERYTHING takes ..... So check your history on how long the adoption of other very disruptive materials took and this is probably far ahead of the curve on progress...

The transistor was very innovative and disruptive-ended the use of vacuum tubes- and it was invented in 1947. “Texas Instruments of Dallas, Texas first started commercial production of junction transistors for portable radios in 1954.” https://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/transist.htm

Perhaps LQMT isn’t far ahead of the curve on progress.

Congrats on still being lucid and optimistic.

I was speaking in general terms. As far as I am aware, there is no evidence that Apple sub licensed rights to Crucible technology. Read the thread and you should be able to follow along. It wasn’t very complicated.

It depends on the terms of the sub license. When you grant a sole and exclusive sub license and do not retain any rights for yourself you have effectively sold your license. However, I can grant a sole and exclusive sub license without selling by making the grant contingent upon annual royalties.

“Good thought,, but I don't recall that Apple under the MTA can sell the rights to a third party.?”

Apple can grant sub licenses under the MTA. (See MTA, Annex 6, Article 2.1.) However, such sub licenses are limited to the scope of Apple’s license, i.e., the field of consumer electronics.

It’s obvious that no one at LQMT has attended the Mark Cuban School of Business. “‘No business has ever succeeded without sales,’ Cuban says. (Maybe that's why Cuban says sales skills are what made him wealthy.) ‘Period. End of story.’”

Thank you for chronicling the problems with trying to sell 100k shares. It demonstrates the absurdity of those who assert that Li not selling 400+ MILLION is a meaningful reason for optimism.

I too worked for a company that ran off of purchase orders, and all the terms and conditions implied in the POs were explicitly stated within a Master Agreement (Contract) between the parties.

I believe that his emphasis on contracts isn’t necessarily the contract itself, but the inevitable public disclosure, as a material event, indicating a future revenue stream. The same thing that would occur upon receipt of a significant PO.

I still have concerns about LQMT but I wish I had about 10x my holdings in AAPL which is up 0.05% today. LOL

While I don’t disagree with your assessment, I suspect another reason Li continues to own LQMT shares is simply that he can’t unload them. You can’t dump 405 million shares into the market (with low trade volume) without tanking the share price. He is also an insider. So, he must also comply with insider trading rules, which complicates getting out of his LQMT position.

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What is the definition of "Consumer Electronics?"

For the purposes of determining the relationship between Apple and Liquidmetal, both parties agreed to the following definition in the MTA, and I expect that definition to be applied in any litigation between them.

DEFINITION:

"Consumer Electronic Products" means personal computers (portable and desktop); tablet or slate style computing devices; handheld electronic and/or communication devices (e.g., smartphones, digital music players, multi-function devices, etc.); any device whose function includes the creation, storage or consumption of digital media; any component or sub-component in any Consumer Electronic Product; and any accessory that is the same or similar (in Apple's sole discretion) to an accessory made or sold by or on behalf of Apple (regardless of when Apple sold or started to sell such accessory, including after the Closing Date) that is suitable for use with any Consumer Electronic Product. Notwithstanding the foregoing, "Consumer Electronic Products" shall not include:

(i)
products (except for any product that is capable of interacting or interfacing with a Consumer Electronic Product) that are powered by electricity or batteries but that do not in any way involve the creation, storage, consumption, use, viewing, transmission, or processing of digital media or digital information and do not involve the use of wireless communication networks. Products that fall into this category include, without limitation, electric-powered and/or battery-powered drills, hand tools and watches (i.e. a wrist-worn device whose sole function is to display the time of day);


(ii)
medical devices and other products that are not the same or similar to any Apple product (regardless of when Apple sold or started to sell such product, including after the Closing Date) and that are used exclusively for the diagnosis and/or treatment of human or animal health conditions; or



(iii)
products or components thereof that are not the same as or similar to any Apple product (regardless of when Apple sold or started to sell such product, including after the Closing Date) or component of any Apple product and that are made solely for, and sold solely into, the defense/military, automotive, medical, or industrial markets.

Yes, but the last time the price went up was on optimism generated by his buy. Nothing came of it, he sold before the balloon deflated, and then we drifted down to below where we are now.

I guess you don’t remember the last time TC bought on the open market and sold for a gain.

As LQMT dropped in price, I quit following LQMT closely - too damn depressing. So, I missed the whole TC purchasing 1 million share.

Could someone be kind enough to bring me up to date. When did that happen? How do we know it happened?

TIA

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Li would likely sell the same way he bought, in a pre-arranged transaction.

IMHO, it is wishful thinking that Li could sell LQMT in a pre-arranged transaction. Imagine being the intended investor/mark and hearing the sales pitch from the COB and largest shareholder. Your first reaction would be alarm and “why does he want out?” IMHO, Li would only be able to convince a “mark” to buy LQMT by sharing some really tantalizing insider information. I would want to try to justify a $15M of LQMT based on current public information.

With that logic we should all be hoping for the sp to fall to $0.01 or less.

If Li needed $15 million, then of course he sold Eon instead of LQMT. Ignoring for the moment all the restrictions on insider trading, just look at the enormity of trying to raise $15 million from selling LQMT. At $0.04, which LQMT isn’t, Li would need to sell 375,000,000 shares to raise $15 million. At the anemic trading volume experienced by LQMT, it would take years for him to sell that many shares. And, of course that ignores the reality of the crash when it becomes public that Li is selling. In other words, the fact Li hasn’t sold LQMT isn’t a clear endorsement in the value of LQMT.

LOL

If Crucible is sold to Samsung, then Samsung gets all of the IP except for the field of CE, which is the exclusive and perpetual domain of Apple. IMHO it isn’t messy enough for it to be of any concern or consequence to Apple.

Interesting idea, but I believe that Apple’s property interests in the patents held by Crucible are not affected by whether or not Valencia goes under. It would be nice if Apple did as you suggested, but from Apple’s perspective there isn’t a need for Apple to do so. If Valencia goes under, all Apple needs to do is pay the maintenance fees for the patents to the USPTO (and other national patent offices) and life goes on for Apple uninterrupted.

The same can be said of most average people-fear can be immobilizing.

I’m not a genius and not yet dead, but I believe that I won’t be broke when I die. However, it looks like my money will be due to Apple and not LQMT.

Yep, up 0.0001 for the day. At that rate, it will take 100 business days (20 weeks + holidays) for it to gain 1 cent. Yeah, let’s all crow and strut about it being in the green.

Are you sure it’s “they” and not “he” or “her.” I’m not.

So true, and there will always be pumpers who cut and paste the “happy talk” (so called DD) of others. At times, it can be Almost ridiculous.

I’m certain Joshua appreciates that.

A real investor and not a trader, but yet you brag about selling at highs and buying low. Always a sound strategy, but sure sounds like being a trader to me.

With the sp sitting below $0.07 the vast majority of those invested in the market tend to disagree with your assessment on the greatness of LQMT.

Thanks for reposting Joshua. I don’t know what I would do if I had to personally check out his latest postings.

The vast majority of the positive views have no grounding in reality, just wishful thinking thrown at the wall hoping they might stick to some poor soul who buys their shares overpriced.

Just another point of view.

LOL.

That’s really funny. All we have gotten for years is pure speculation on how the maze was using our IP and all we needed was a little patience until the revenue started to flow/pour/overflow our coffers. What changed?

I’m still a believer in this company and sincerely believe that Tony and Li will make this company a success.

I am looking forward too seeing what they bring in 2016!

I am looking forward too seeing what they bring in 2017!

I am looking forward too seeing what they bring in 2018!

I am looking forward too seeing what they bring in 2019!

I am looking forward too seeing what they bring in 2020!

I am looking forward too seeing what they bring in 2021!

I am looking forward too seeing what they bring in 2022!

I am looking forward too seeing what they bring in 2023!

…

I am looking forward too seeing what they bring in 20xx!

December of what year?

“Probably Li and Chungs relatives in the know!!!”

If Li’s and Chung’s relatives are “in the know” as you suggest, then Li and Chung are completely unethical and possibly criminal.

“I agree, but I have also lost ALL confidence in the nebbishes that we have been hearing it from for years.”

You aren’t the only person who has lost confidence in LQMT. Look at the anemic number of posts here. It looks to me that even the rah-rah twitts-board is having anemic posts. It looks like almost everyone has just walked away. Holding onto their shares because of FOMO.

“…Li’s own statement that he will do whatever it takes to make this company succeed!”

Whatever Li has been doing has been working!

At this stage, Li probably wishes he could sell out to a young go getter too.