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Hey toady....seems you are the deluded one...
Deluded, diluted..all the same...cause that Skull Valley dirt shore ain't concentrated riches....
Pedro2004, are you still watching NMC and the court proceedings?
most of the links on your last posts are no longer working It would be nice to know what is happening. Short of having Pacer access, I know no way to find anything out.
Thanks
Good...believe what you will....a fool and his money are soon parted.
another day in the world of :As the Furlong fraud turns......
Nice.... but mine are outdoor cats...they catch rats and mice now and then...that is good, but when they bring in birds..then I get mad...
What a nonsense spewer you are....
You too, QandS, but you already know that....
OT: who here remembers Bre-X, the mother of all mining scams? Well, there still is a securites fraud trial going on after all these years... some good discussion and links in the last 30 or so posts here:
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/subject.aspx?subjectid=5725
One of the links is a great read about Tommy Suharto's imprisonment and involvement in Bre-X (and more of the story..) as well as possibly his family; they run Indonesia...and have amassed a $45 bn fortune.
Cool, I completely forgot about that story...nice pets....my cats'd love 'em.....to death..uhoh....
True, I haven't seen ya bustin' gumps alls.....I was just making small talk.
Kinda want your input on possibility of anything to do to speed up NMC's demise...SEC aleady contacted via the website..only form letter sent in response.
rburnout34 at yahoo...dot bomb
Buzz, I don't follow this stinker much, but if you read the news, you will see a few referencing drilling that they did. Only one problem, afaik, they never released any results. That is curious, as there would be no real ignominy, as not all kimberlite is diamondiferous.
As it rightfully should...lousy boiler room scam that it is.
OT: Janice, it's been five years, but you might remember me from the WELU and UPCA scams were we interacted a bit. I'm currently working on the NMCX and AKOL scams....I'll bet you remember HCCA. NMCX is the same rehashed scam, even as SEC trial is ongoing. Come check out the action at RB and go to http://www.nmcinc.com to read the biggest bunch of nonsense ever..if you know anything about mineral values and the lack thereof in Arizona of platinum!
We finally got some irrefutable written evidence from the state, posted it today, and of course the stubborn longs still bs us (not many of them left, most are selling...) here it is: http://snipurl.com/dy9b
Fo easy on gump, will ya. While he may be wrong about the shorting, he does know that CMKX has some prime real estate. He also has 55 years in the mining industry, and knows his stuff!! He knows NMCX is a scam...this one...maybe not so cut and dried.
Cheers
Oops, here's the huge news:
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/050411/76005.html
Mancini admits no FWOG deal, but of course fails to explain why all the lies. What a joke. Let's play "name the company" again How about Mikey's Cajun/Sesame Oil and Tummy Gas unCompany...
..calling all rice burners.....
What a joke, the fool is a lousy con artist.
Fowler is a new public co, FWOG, not trading yet. Their rep told me the whole story...they had a LOI last spring, which FOGL/AKOL never followed up on yet was putting out info about a JV, all lies...FWOG warned him to come clean, as of Friday 10 days ago. Mancini finally did, and with more nonsense. The co is a scam.
For all I know, FWOG will never amount to anything either..but at least they were approachable by phone and polite.
A better EXPOSE link, thanks to a more web savvy RB poster:
http://jimewescamp.250x.com/index7.html
investorvest you are a dimwit..are you stockminer at RB?
Anyhow check back over there soon, a new better link will be up, thanks to another scambuster.
You now have proof NMC is a FRAUD!!!
http://www.geocities.com/rburnout34/NMCXinfo.pdf
ATTENTION ALL READ, Here's the real story.
Credit goes to golddust for doing all the legwork here. I just had to create a website to host the file..and it may get overloaded. Read this info carefully and it will all be clear. As you will see, the state is holding the royalty funds as NMC has yet to verify the metals content from the ore sale, which is a pretty good indication that there was no sale, just a sham.
Also, take close note of the assays, note the lack of marketable pm's, an the retubale firms that the state used.
There you have it folks, proof that you have all been conned.
Here's the evidence I've been promising. Read closely, the documents speak for themself. NMC is done!
http://209.245.59.106/Gimme/55639613/960805122/57442630/B1720685-EFC5-4032-8333-BF8D43967B54/0.82742...
As I said on RB, the chance that a boiler room scam could make inroads on wuch a huge project is tiny. They have no money and who knows if they could raise any. They failed with Fowler, and then lied about the deal, according to Fowler.
Not nice to spread rumors unless you have evidence...do you?
from Stockhouse bb poster, more evidence of boiler room pump and dump:
A dose of tough-love.
I had my cousin check out the Houston location of AKOL HQ.
Note: He works for a petrol firm in Houston/Anchorage and would have known the right question to ask.
And I quote:
I went to the building at the address online. The suite listed, 1300, is an "executive suite" company - where businesses rent rooms and share conference facilities.
The directory listing in the lobby didn't have their name on the board -
although some other business in Suite 1300 did, and when you get to Suite
1300, there are no business names anywhere - not even the name of the
executive suites (Skyline -
http://www.instant-offices.com/office_space/serviced_offices_houston_2399.htm))
Some other things - I looked up M. Mancini at the same phone number on the web
and saw this:
»»»»» Email Marketing Houston Resources... Attn: M. Mancini Tel: (281)
854-2374 Email: frontieroil@mail ... Kings beat Rockets 91-89 in NBA Beijing
game Straits Times, Singapore - Oct 17, 2004 ... ...
www.internet-marketing-secrets-that-work.com/ email-marketing-houston.html -
37k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
I couldn't get into the site but thought it interesting that I got a hit for
him on an internet marketing page. [End of Quote]
Plain & simple. I have lost my excitement for this stock but not my curiosity. More later. I have some decisions to make re: buys & sells.
FD: I still own 250,000 purchased @ 1¢.
Do Take Care, no one wants to lose their money.
Sorry, guys,you need to wake up. This was, is, and always will be, nothing but a simple desert dirt con game....Did you know that they have had the right to mine the tailings, even though the lease is not renewed? Yet, they have done nothing...of that we have proof..the dirt pile is still there.
The mysterious buyer has never been identified and most likely is just a paper shuffle. In order to con investors and the state, they did pay some royalties, but not the 43,000 reported. They paid $25,000, in 2003, with a bit in 2002, when they reported ore sales of $150,000. This data is different that what they reported to their shareholders 8/2003, when they announced the $500 mm sale which they claimed was made 6/2003.
Then, since that "sale" had been made when they were delisted, and they got no benefit from it, they turned around and issued it as a blockbuster Christmas windfall, 18 months later. HELLO??!! Major red flag....Anything to keep the sting alive. As well, I'm sure the company sold heavily into the pump and dump.
What you all could be doing is organizing a class action lawsuit against these scammers...They may have $ from stock sales, which could perhaps be invesigated...
They are committing FRAUD, and have been doing it for 10 years.
better go back and read some more, skytripper...
One, AKOL has had one fluff pr since changing their name and all it was about was boasting up the new name....pretty ludicrous, being as, on their website and in previous news they lied about a deal with FWOG, and thus have NOTHING going on in AK.
I tend to agree with ya, nanuk...The Fowler rep I spoke with didn't sound like an oilman...is based in NY, yet Robert Fowler in San Diego. He seemed nice and made it sound like they were serious about going forward and raising funds....but a lot of red flags if you ask me. He did sound pretty pissed at Mancini though...will see if Mancini pr's about the no deal deal...and if not, what Fowler does about it.
chuckmon, see pinksheets, FWOG. Company rep told me no trading just yet..but that most all of the 63 mm shares or so were tightly held. you'll see a huge bid/ask spread typical of an illiquid issue. go to website, call them see what you think. They arent quite ready to announce anything yet, he said. Seems like a nice guy, unlike Mancini.
Cheers.
Check out RTK and SYNM for a couple real companies with simply blockbuster potential..involved in the soon to be immense gas-to-liquids industry. (GTL, also CTL--as in coal) Each could command a multi billion $ cap in a few years--SYNM may get to 10 figures next week.
Mancini lied again, and was called out..
by FWOG company rep. When confronted with his lies, he agreed to put out news next week disavowing previous inaccurate claims. If this does not happen, FWOG may have to pursue legal actions.
This anyone can confirm by contacting Fowler. Their website and phone number can be found at pinksheets.com.
Basically, what transpired was this: The two companies entered into a letter of intent whereby Mancini's company, then FOGL, would provide $7.5 mm in financing. Only problem is, this was May 4 of last year, and nothing further was heard from them, says Fowler rep.
Here's what he sent to someone in response, copied from RB:
"EMAIL FROM AKOL CEO!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: robert needham
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: Fowler Oil & Gas
Sir,
We have signed documentation from Fowler and have been waiting for additional due diligence from them on their properties.
We have also been doing our own work in regard to acquisition of properties.
We will be making an annoucement next week in regard to Fowler.
M. Mancini
----- Original Message ----
To: alaskaoil@mail.com
Subject: Fowler Oil & Gas
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:37:53 -0500
This email is being passed around the internet.
Is this true?
Thanks,
Adam Ruehl - AKOL shareholder
Fowler Oil & Gas Corporation & Fowler Oil & Gas LLC
San Diego
March 28, 2005
Alaska Oil & Gas Ltd, in press releases and on their website, have
referenced a joint venture relationship with Fowler Oil & Gas. Robert
Fowler, President of Fowler Oil & Gas, would like to clarify that there is
not any joint venture relationship in place with Alaska Oil & Gas Ltd.
While Fowler Oil & Gas encourages inquiries from potential joint venture
partners, we do not have any such agreements in place. We have conducted
discussions with Alaska Oil & Gas Ltd. in the past, but no joint venture
agreement was ever reached and we are not currently conducting any talks
with Alaska Oil & Gas Ltd.
We are an Oil & Gas company with a primary focus on the Cook Inlet Basin in
Alaska. We currently own a large property in the Cook Inlet Basin which is
located on a coal bed and have the option to lease additional acreage within
the basin.
With the U.S Government's current agenda on the Alaskan energy resources,
we're confident that we will succeed in procuring the financing needed to
take these projects forward and develop the Fowler Oil & Gas properties.
The company has received offers and proposals from a few investment banks,
investment firms as well as private investment groups and is currently
reviewing such proposals to determine the best financial structure that
would not only benefit the company, but also help preserve shareholder
value.
Fowler Oil & Gas is currently concluding phase two of the company plan of
action. Once this phase of financing is concluded, the company plans to
disseminate several press releases informing the public of its developments
and continue its ongoing responsibility to keep investors and shareholders
informed on our developments.
Fowler Oil & Gas
Reread the financials, where they claim that this mythical "buyer" of their almost worthless dirt will pay them within 30 days of published audited financials....which NMC will never be able to produce..as they have no value, and no buyer..it is all a sham. You have been conned.
Anyhow, now you know not to be surprised at the ominous silence.
The end is near for this scam, IMO.
Told ya AKOL is a bunch of liars:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=FOGL&read=696
cmj, all they have is a "ceo" who tells you to quite harassing him instead of answering tough questions via email.....
I told him I would likely report them to the SEC. but they're likely too insignificant of a wart on the frog to be noticed, IMO.
Gracias, taurus, you seem to have the perceptive skills of an earthworm.....
thanks for the laugh, tho!
So, this question begs an answer:
Why, since NMC has all this fancy equipment, legally could be mining, and claims to have unprecedented pgm riches, why are they doing NOTHING??
$500 mm sale is a sham, here's why:
1.
Since 2003, when the lease expired, NMC filed for a new one. While the application is pending, the state is allowing them to operate. However, according to MSHA records obtained, NMC has done no mining in that time..
2.
All the ore is still there.
3.
Supposed $700 k payment, made in 2003, but yet to be recorded as revenues.
4. "buyer" of ore has never been disclosed.
5. No record of any platinum sale or delivery of dore to any certified refiner.
6.
Company claims to have made an $43,000 royalty payment to the state(exact figure was given but I don't have it handy.) Actual amount received was $25,000, in three payments. My conclusion is that this was made to give the appearance of veracity to the sham ore sale.
yeah, I knew that, cause golddust had to go to work with his loader clearing snow for his clients.
We finally got some cooler weather here in the PNW, and some snow in the hills. Still, it's the worst snowpack in 100 years..fire season already..ouch!!! Now back to sunshine, but highs in low 50's versus record 68 of two weeks ago.
nds, nice of you to fill us in. Two problems, they have reported no mining activities to MSHA since 2003. Maybe because they have no current lease, so cant mine or sell the tailings...and yet they report this mystical "sale"
And two, do you think a leopard can change his spots?:
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/comp18016.htm
Finally you make sense. That is all AKOL is, a Pump and Dump...
Check out XLPI, which ran on real news, and even bigger...It should do it again next week, as more contract news should be announced. http://www.xcelplus.com
Good morning nanuk!! You had some snow yesterday, I hear!
Awesome place, had the best skiing of my life there...helicopters and 5000 foot huge alaskan faces, YEAHHHH..
200 miles from Cook Inlet, what's yer point..jealous?
Nice piece about Usibelli...never heard of them of course.
But how is it relevant in any way to AKOL and it's (questionable) 50% share of a HUGE 80 acre plot?..which has had no exploratory drilling done....
I hope you're holding the bag here...as the price drops back to where it started....you deserve it, rather than the suckers...who ARE bagholders.
farnrth,
You said..and apparantly the company lead you to believe that this is accurate:
"The Company claims current Gas Reserve is a fully documented reserve with an estimated 1.9 trillion cubic feet in the Cook Inlet Basin."
That's a BALD FACED LIE! and you know it. Go ahead, maybe you can pump this scam one more time....there's plenty more suckers out there.
Normal chart--for an outfit that has nothing but some fancy new mining doodads, but nothing of value to use 'em for....
Any bets on when they join The other "X" at .0001?
https://myalaska.state.ak.us/business/soskb/csearch.asp
Type in Fowler, Frontier, Alaska Oil and Gas...hmmmmmmmmmm
nanuk, be sure to see my post just below. Cheers and good work here!!
the chord, You sound like Mancini/Needham.
Nanuk, I just found this site. A friend of mine from Raging Bull, gold_dust444, told me about AKOL, last week. He is a gold miner from Anchorage. We are involved in trying to shut down a much bigger and longer ongoing scam that this, NMCX. Come to the RB board and check it out.
While doing DD on this, I had questions right off. It is painfully clear what the company is doing by attempting to make it seem that the total reserve figures for Cook Inlet somehow magically can apply to their measly 80 acres....which may not even exist. I couldn't find any data on Fowler either!
Mancini had answered my first brief email, but ignored the second with some togher questions, but not about the reserves.
So I sent Mancini a third email this morning, accusing him of perpetrating this con on purpose. Told him I might let the SEC in on the little incident. He fired back with a lame denial and told me to bug off. He also denied making a statement in any email about how they might hit it huge any day....and I found that quote again!! Lying scumbag.
Obvious scam pump and dump in progress. Glad you've been on it. Looks like the run is over. I feel bad for the newbies who bought in late, and for the old bagholders. I may put a couple of your posts up on RB. Sounds like oil is your life, but you oughta look up golddust. He has some major things going on, owns several claims, one of which may turn out to be HUGE! I post as rodgdodg over there.
Read this story, scams run rampant...
(Video coming soon...get your advance copy...just as hilarious as "Girls Gone Wild" is titillating...hehehe)
Gold Garbage: Scams New & Old
by Dr. Ralph Pray
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Here’s what actually happened, described in the case file documents:
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Based on a precious metal assay certificate signed by a registered southwest assayer, the sellers, in consideration of the payment of over $53 million, transfer over 185,000 troy ounces stored in a warehouse to a company based in Norway.
This document was signed and notarized in a southwest town, and was publicly distributed in 2001.
Guess what?! The warehouse floor concrete may have a higher gold assay than the concentrates sitting above it valued at fifty-three million. The faxes between Norway and the U.S., sent to accounting firms, investigative agencies, and the seller’s office, would paper the walls of a three-bedroom house. The Norwegians asked for ethical technical help, but only after the fox had already left the henhouse.
Before anyone with an itchy finger pulls the hammer back, there is one consideration—the sellers gave the buyers a huge discount, a precious metal discount for contained platinum, etc. Not many of those around. Against that smoke and mirrors asset the overseas owners have to cough up the monthly warehouse fee on storing fifty-three million plus in a lonely, unguarded building. In an unusual power play, the sellers got on the buyers’ board of directors and called the shots on the who, what and when of confirming assays.
People have worked their way up from silly little lies over many years to scams like these. Behind almost every mining scam is a professional person gone haywire, in this case an assayer. All sorts of associates get dragged into the circle.
Another scam, the multi-billion dollar Bre-X disaster, with something like 42,000 salted samples, began with a spoonful of copper-gold shavings in one drill core sample. It worked. Based on the true assays of the salted samples, Canadian stock promoters innocently kited the shares. Geologists at the drill site saw a way to enhance job security. Plenty of placer gold was available from the local Indonesians. This gold was carefully weighed and secretly mixed into each of the diamond drill samples crushed at the remote site. The independent assay results were checked and rechecked. Fine.
Two of the geologists got a recorded thirty million cash each from the sale of their Bre-X stock. A major mining company came in to check three years of drilling by putting in their own core holes next to a few market stimulators. Nothing in hole after hole.
One of the original salting geologists, by now quite famous because of his “discovery,” was so afraid to face the music at the last minute he bailed out of a chopper bareback from a thousand feet. He didn’t get to spend his thirty million.
Closer to home, the recent and current fakery in Southern Nevada’s Eldorado Valley is a textbook case of a “Disneyland Mine in the Desert.” The players, many of them professional people, a few of whom are well-known, are stubborn illusionists who stumble repeatedly over the shortest word in the mining lexicon: ore. To them ore is any rock on their claims. Their stable of half-assayers generates the mineral “Promotorite” out of alluvial cobble through a series of lab tricks and double-talk. Such fake assays are old stuff. What’s new in the Eldorado Valley case is a string of PhD experts testifying in Federal Court that their lab magicians are believable. Maybe these outside consultants get all backwards thinking a half-assayer is better than no assayer.
Back to the 53 million-dollar concentrate sellers. Just before the Norway scam, the southwest alchemists had a crack at buyers in London who didn’t fall for the deluge of documents. This doesn’t mean the Brits are always sharp in these matters. Not too long ago a Sir William was ready to invest millions in a process to take the gold out of the iron ore tailings at Eagle Mountain, near Desert Center in Riverside County, California. Kaiser Steel had left behind a mountain of processed tailings. The promoters, who had a lease from Kaiser’s surviving company, admitted the iron content was low, “but Kaiser never went after the two ounce per ton gold.” Sure there’s gold in the rock, but it assays way to the right of the decimal point. After satisfying the client, I laid the facts before the Riverside County D.A. That D.A. hates mine liars.
The latest attempt known here to move the warehouse “Suckerite” was with a rich Saudi gold buyer, who, by coincidence, came through my lab just two weeks before I left on a consulting job for a Saudi company in Jedda. I exposed the fraud immediately. The Saudi then canceled his three hundred million dollar escrow previously set up to facilitate the transfer of gold from the warehouse to the Saudi bank. Relieved at not losing his three hundred million, the escrow fee of fifty thousand dollars paid by the Saudi was, to him, “good luck money.” From everything I saw in Arabia, the southwest guys may be lucky they didn’t unload one of their warehouses on the rich Arab.
Samples of these fabulous gold materials are not easy to come by. I recall when the southwest scammers flashed a colored photo of large metal ingots stacked on a pallet held aloft by a forklift.
“Those look like copper ingots,” I said.
“No, no. They’re pure gold,” the scammer explained. “That bullion comes directly from our volcanic cinder gold mines...”
Keeping a straight face, I looked again. “The ingots sure have a copper color.”
“Well, maybe so. But our scientist says that some gold looks just like copper.”
Of course it was copper. Their “scientist” cons everybody on both ends of the assay furnace. He could have played a part next to Robert Redford in “The Sting” with his hands tied together.
Sometimes it appears to me, after 56 active years in the business, some of it while personally fire assaying over 47,000 rock samples for John Q. Public, there are now more big-wheel mine liars in the U.S. than there are true mine prospectors.
I wonder if this is because it’s almost impossible for the little guy to dig an honest hole in the ground anymore.
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Dr. Ralph Pray is the owner/operator of the Mineral Research Laboratory in Monrovia, California. He welcomes your questions or comments; (626) 357-6511.