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I hope someone would put their money where their mouth is and short the crap out of it. A little rocket fuel for the trip over the moon. Who is left to sell to some of us willing buyers anyway!?!?!?!?!?!
I wish RDMP would either divest itself of XBOR or buy it out. It would be less complicated for RDMP eitherway. Question as always is price. I don't think that XBOR holders would accept a price of less than $4 IMO.
Another nanocap that looks like it has great value, but no interest. I like their website though, if only the stock would be as flashy!
Thanks for the great links, StockTM!
The writer of that article understands the value of growth. With the trailing PE of around 26, it isn't overvalued, and looking forward, it seems to me that the market isn't putting any premium at all on it for future growth.
It just takes enough people to think the same way vs. whatever profit takers or sellers that are left to drive this thing to where it should be. JMHO, anything can happen, but who really is left to sell here??
Right. Looked like some bid bait at 54.25, and not a nibble, and only one offer under 60. There are just so many shares anyone could own. Guess it spooked someone, but it seems like either sellers are done or changed their mind. For every seller, there is a happy buyer that must be glad they got shares at all, let alone at a great price.
Huckleberry, you are right, it is for all intents and purposes, a private company. The CEO reported selling two lots of 1000 shares last month. I haven't made contact with him. They file on time, so the 10k should be out late November. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Obviously the company is selling at a discount because of the huge holdings of the CEO, but I look at it as an investment in a growing business at a deep discount. What I don't understand is why any company would go dark? It eliminates value and makes it harder to do stock acquisitions. So, as they haven't gone dark, my thoughts are that they may consider acquisitions in the future????
Beyond that, the company has put up good numbers, revenue and bottom line, and booking that real estate gain (at least that's how it looks to me) will just make the value under $10 all that much richer.
Like our other favorite stock, it is interesting that there are any shares available at all. The property sale will help their balance sheet. They don't have that many preferred shares outstanding, all again held by CEO.
Positives: Record earnings, top line growth, one time gain this qtr, growing market share and sales force.
Negatives: Cash position is lower than I would like to see, inventory and receivables higher (but could be normal).
Unknowns?/Wish list? Could selling those properties being done to streamline the company for a sale? If so, what could it fetch in their industry? Will they ever consider a dividend?
My goal is $14-$20 short term. Long term, I guess would depend on whether they continue taking market share and improving growth rates, but that's my thoughts, nobody should by as I'm not a professional analyst or anything like that. Of course, no matter what, it doesn't mean a thing if you can't get a nice size block.
If I am reading this right, looks like they closed on a real estate deal that lists the asset available for sale $7.483Mil, and sold it for much more:
From their last 10Q:
In March 2014, the Company entered into an agreement to sell the Sylmar Properties. As such, the associated land, buildings and improvements and related liabilities were reclassified as assets held for sale and liabilities held for sale, respectively, on the accompanying consolidated balance sheets as of May 31, 2014 and August 31, 2013. In June 2014, the Company completed the sale of the Sylmar Properties for $9,125,000 in cash and paid the related mortgage off in full.
Should be a nice gain this quarter adding to the already great earnings I would think?
Double bottom, or cup and long handle? Tech analysis isn't my bag, but, with the low volume, I'm positive. P/E is about the same as Corvel, and PFHO has a faster growth rate and tight share structure. Other than EACO, this has about the tightest float out there.
Nice 4000 bid at 7.15 today, rally to 8.50. Perhaps I'm not the only one finding value here??????????
I think today is a bottom. Looked to me like someone was clearing out the last of their position with a "dump the rest of it" at the end of the day. Very low volume, market makers had their way with the seller I think. Let's see if I'm right by the end of the week.
Mark, I like your assessment and agree.
That's a good homework assignment. I haven't crunched that. One of the interesting things that if PFHO ever wanted to sell out is something I noticed in their 10Qs. They say that they are not large enough to operate their own managed health care organization, but wouldn't this be a nice fit for another MHCO? Just a thought. I think the market for a company such as this is a lot larger than selling to someone in the same business as CRVL perhaps.
$100 overnight cash would be nice, but I think given a reasonable amount of time, and a reasonable amount of growth in market share and profitability, $100 may look paltry. Throw in a strategic acquisition or two, an uplisting or split, and it could get interesting really quickly. Doesn't appear that there are many people willing to part with the stock at less than $60, so my feeling is that anything good will have a larger than expected boost. A little overhang maybe left, but I see the day when there are more buyers than stock available. At least I hope so for all of us ;)
The other thing - the stock is up less than 10% from when the CEO bought his stock last. Why sell when insiders are holding it?
Seems to me that the 2000 share seller lost about $20,000 by being a pretty stupid trader. Whether by intent or accident, they created a buying opportunity for the rest of us.
You nailed it. I see a big rebound soon. What is interesting as RAWNOC said, those 2000 shares on the offer. Either it is a very naive person who just lost about $20,000 by putting a 2k block out in the 70s and now the low 60s, or someone who wants the price to drop to buy more on the cheap. The market makers and other investors just have taken advantage of that. I have read every post from 1 - now, and it looks like there have been inexplicable offers like this since the stock was at $2.
I like the line RAW used many posts ago, that he'll be scratching his head at $100 as he was at $2.
Those suits are trivial to a company this size. The question is whether Red Mountain some day will want to buy out the remaining shares of XBOR and at what price, or whether XBOR will continue its profitable path. Everything else is internet noise from someone wetting their pants that they didn't buy in earlier, and will do worse than that when this exceeds $5 or $10.
PROOF XBOR is a scam! I saw a weed next to their prolific oil well. Oh my... I better sell everything tomorrow. A frivolous lawsuit, and now this? Maybe there might be two weeds tomorrow, where does it all end?
Well said. Thanks.
If this is your definition of a scam, would you please point me to a few more? I see lots of green in my purchased shares! Ohhhh so worried I am.... NOT
I like the production in the wells that they drilled in the Q just out. I guess those revenues are only for part of the quarter, so they really are doing remarkably well if I read this right?
I agree. As the CEO has no need for liquidity himself, owning 60%, I don't see an uplisting or split as a priority, but if the stock gets high enough, or if they find a whale of an aquisition that would supersize this company, then I think they will move like lightning to split or uplist.
You are right, they run a tight ship, and going though the process of getting on a national exchange probably wouldn't have the bang for the buck until they are at a market cap that attracts research analysts or institutions.
Besides, being small and hard to find gives sharp people like you and me or others more of a chance to buy stock at a very reasonable price. CEO bought some in the low 50s, perhaps even the company will buy back some if the stock dips?
I really can't explain why this stock isn't in the teens already with such a tiny float and superb financials. Just goes to show you that you can mine for gems in nanocap land!
Nicely said. Patience is key, as this is a quasi-private business which gives them the added ability to make decisions and execute much faster then their larger publicly traded competitors. Growth here can take many forms, but as they say, Rome wasn't built overnight.
Keep yelling scam while I am running to my broker to buy more LOL. Majority owned company producing profits. Scam, sure, right.
I also think this gives PFHO an advantage, which will be exploited even more IMO:
As a licensed HCO and MPN, in addition to offering HCO and MPN programs, we are also able to offer our clients a combination of the HCO and MPN programs. Under this plan model an employer can enroll its employees in the HCO program, and then prior to the expiration of the 90-day or 180-day treatment period under the HCO program, the employer can enroll the employee into the MPN program. This allows employers to take advantage of both programs. We believe that we are currently the only entity that offers both programs together in a combination program.
Pie guy, great question. Here is my take, first remember this from their filings:
"Our business generally has a long sales cycle, typically in excess of one year."
Thus sales growth today was seeded perhaps over a year ago. I assume that the greatest concern is executing on their model with staff to support and retain the additional clients. The biggest mistake a company can make is to focus on sales without the infrastructure to support it. Also, with technology and the lag time in sales, I don't know if an increase in sales personnel is as needed as it was a long time ago.
CRVL is about 20 times greater in size. My question is what is CRVL's revenue per enrollee? Are they facing competitive margin pressures? My guess is not really, as I'm sure they can poach clients from CRVL and new business to reach these sales increases.
I don't think earnings would stop someone who is looking to sell from selling. But I really think whenever they get listed or noticed or do an acquisition or get acquired, we may all wish we doubled down in the double digits. Can't speak or advise anyone else, but for me, I'm following what the CEOs and large 5%+ holders are doing, either buy more or hold tightly. Remember, there were people willing to pay $76 for a lot of stock, my guess is they aren't two bit players, and we will see more of it after this Mexican standoff between some sellers and not yet motivated buyers ends.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Hope to see you in the 100s!
I think their margins were better than I expected, for reasons of hiring as you stated, plus that they said that their Admin expenses would be 15-20% higher. The outside service fees due to strong demand was what hurt just a bit. But all in all, they are doing a great job of managing their growth IMO. 804,000 shares don't spread but just so far.
PFHO likely will have a cult like following when it gets mainstream. Whether that is in a couple of quarters or a year, who knows, but this company will make its presence known I believe.
Earnings were very good, revs, etc. Question is on the outsource service fees, whether that increase was higher than usual this quarter, or will it moderate any in the coming quarters, in which case earnings would be even higher. I suspect revenues will increase at a much faster rate, boosting margins. Either way, the company is growing revenues nicely, and kicking butt when it comes to its nearest competitor CRVL.
The CEO has been buying, and the two other 5%+ holders are hanging on to their shares tightly. They have almost 4 times plus in liquid assets today then the company was worth in market cap less than three years ago! More growth and other business lines or acquisitions might make all the quantitative work on this thing go right out the window. I'll go along with some poster before that said they didn't think we were even in the first out of the first inning.
Holding/buying... GLTA, but with this stock, luck and hype isn't needed.
Totally agree. The stock has been bedeviled by 2000 share offers before, nothing new, except the new highs eventually achieved.
PFHO is good pillow talk. If I weren't surrounded by you strapping males, I would say it is better than sex. --Jenny
Huck, Triad, Raw all have had great posts. Read them all at least twice. I think Huck's comment about setting up for an explosive run will be confirmed very soon. Sellers have always regretted doing so.
If you are short, the only thing you will have left is hope. -Jenny
PFHO pillow fight. Funny. With almost $1MM trading hands, looks like some big boys are stuffing their pillowcases with stock! Good for them. Maybe by next week, sellers will be crying in their pillow about the big one that got away.
Can't keep this great stock down. Nearly $1MM picked up by happy buyers in a down market. Reading past posts, looks like many have seen this story before, and it ends phenomenally.
Someone mentioned you on the PFHO thread. Whether one likes you or hates you, you are at least man enough to post your mind. Isn't that what Ihub is for? But I guess admins there would rather smother that. Guess before I get banned, I'll copy what I think on that other thread:
Looks like you are dogged by a snivelling snot over on our favorite stock. There isn't anything you can say about those types, they have to live with themselves, which I wouldn't be able to do. Seen them all my life, people who hide behind their mothers, teachers or in this case an Ihub administrator instead of being a real man or women. Can't stand to see someone else make money, so they knock success and go to a craps table and bet the do not pass line and wonder why people can't stand them. They may have pee'd their pants in school, but they will really $#!t themselves when they find out where our favorite stock is headed. Good luck.
Thanks, Investor. Bloomberg and Zacks are my sources of choice. As it looks like I will be banned for stating my mind, this is obviously the worst service ever. I'll go to Yahoo and find others there.
Looks like you are dogged by a snivelling snot over on our favorite stock. There isn't anything you can say about those types, they have to live with themselves, which I wouldn't be able to do. Seen them all my life, people who hide behind their mothers, teachers or in this case an Ihub administrator instead of being a real man or women. Can't stand to see someone else make money, so they knock success and go to a craps table and bet the do not pass line and wonder why people can't stand them. They may have pee'd their pants in school, but they will really $#!t themselves when they find out where our favorite stock is headed. Good luck.
Low P/E, float around 80k, improving earnings, and asset sale this qtr. Prez owns 98%, sold a small bit, but other than that, looks too interesting not to nibble on? Any followers? Any thoughts appreciated.
80,000 shr floater EACO @7+? Improving earnings, asset sale this qtr, of interest?