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you are super lucky to have gotten in at this price. Most MINErs are around .50 - 1.00 plus...
Seriously, Scott has the nerve to claim 2015 was great when the true MINErs lost 95% of their investment..
Just like I suspected he won't have anything tangible for quite sometime yet.. He has carrots that he dangles in front of you..
I would have a lot more faith in the popcorn than Yo Gabba.
1. I have asked many young kids and the majority don't know Yo Gabba.. If they do know Yo Gabba they are too embarrassed to say, which means they most likely won't want a drink associated with a 'baby show'...
2. Yo Gabba has a more marginal market space than CBD Tea... With Yo Gabba you're talking 5 and under..
* Vanis made it sound like the work horse was going to be something special, and I promise you that this 'kids cartoon drink' is anything but special.. It is a let down..
VitaminFIZZ will have to sell 10's of million of cases to produce that kind of revenue, and with a National Chain or not I don't see that happening unless there is some big time advertising campaign.. Which we don't have money for..
Just being realistic..
Avanzar Distribs it already..
So basically Vanis Doesn't have anything tangible for us and it looks like that Yo Gabba Gabba drink is going to be the work horse savior...
I am not impressed in the slightest.. That Yo Gabba is a joke of a product..
If the 'work horse' is that Yo Gabba Gabba drink that will be an absolute joke..
I've asked all of my students who are 10 and under and none of them have even heard of that show.. It was big in 2008...
I hope Vanis has something a lot better than that, because Yo Gabba ain't gonna bail FIZZ out...
Thanks for clarifying that Mitch.. I agree that what you suggest is plausible, but no more plausible than what I suggest..
I agree with JT.. If FIZZ is such a home run, and it hasn't been hit out of the park yet, or had its potential realized yet, if I was a founder I don't think I would reduce my stake to a 10% royalty..There are most likely a myriad of factors behind this decision..
Time will tell what happens here, and you better believe this market is saturated, and its going to change and evolve now that SparkIce punched through the ceiling..
Bryce, there is a definite possibility that that is what Vanis wants you to believe.. If I was a founder of a product that was so cutting edge, and so far better and superior to all of the others in its category, I don't think that I would relinquish my stake to 10%... Especially before it was knocked out of the park..
I personally believe there is a lot more to the story..
It isn't that my 'taste buds' are messed up.. Different people like and prefer different products..
- I thought Fruitwater is good and way better than Spark Ice. I also like how it has more carbonation than FIZZ..
- I prefer Coke to Pepsi.. I can't even drink Pepsi..
- I prefer RedBull to Monster..
* No matter how good you think a product is, there are going to be many more who don't like it and prefer a different version..
There won't be a 'good' Q for quite a while.. Even if we land a National Chain, that really won't matter much..
If Coca-Cola pulled the plug on the space because they weren't making any money in it.. Be realistic with yourself, Coke has the trucks, has the distribution, has the bottling facilities, and on and on, yet they couldn't turn a profit..
I know you hardcore's will say that FIZZ is so much better, but if you're realistic you will understand that they aren't all that much different, and a very similar product, if not identical..
Most people you ask Coke or Pepsi will say that they are basically the same thing, unless you're a hardcore addict..
Now, imagine Minerco who has next to nothing in comparison to Coke in terms of distribution, bottling, access to money..
Minerco and Avanzar's two trucks (is that really true?) is going to have an EVEN harder time making any money..
I speculate that is a big reason why the 'Giants in the shadows' relinquished their skin in the game...
I agree... Even though some get upset by 'bashing' or having a more realistic outlook, it helps offset the pumpers who are pushing the fairy-tales..
I sincerely hope Minerco comes through with something tangible in the near future.. Most of us are still at least 60-98% in the red on this thing..
Metatron, this you?
They don't have the money to produce CB Tea at the moment. We are in negative cash flow, and producing a beverage is 'capital intensive..'
There are Sparkling Ice Billboards for sure in Chicago.. On I290..
I sincerely hope this thing rockets in 2016.. I will be much smarter on the next run though..
A run is all we will be good for.. Sustainable and stable pps movement won't come until there are massive revenues which is a long way off, even with a National Account..
A national account won't mean much if there isn't a National Ad campaign to follow it up with.. Just ask FruitWater how well they did without brand recognition..
Yes Bryce, I know you don't like the taste of FruitWater, but for what I can get in Chicago I thought it was pretty good.. Different Strokes.
Because Minerco runs in negative cash flow, and Vanis needs money to run the lights, and selling stock is the only way he can do it right now..
There will be more dilution, and Vanis has stated that FIZZ won't be profitable for another year or two.. Where else are they going to get money?
Exactly JT... This is why I haven't put any money more money into this mess.. Like others have suggested, I am stuck, and I will honestly be thrilled to break even..
I am not sure how much faith I have in the Sparkling Waters, because an insane amount of bottles will have to be sold in order to generate the revenue they need, CB Tea, lets see if it even comes to fruition, and if Vanis announces that the 'Yo Gabba Gabba' drink is the workhorse, well that is just going to be laughable..
I sincerely hope that Vanis has something better than that 'Yo Gabba Gabba' because that will not bail Fizz out of its jam..
I've asked all of my students who are under 9 years old, many of them who have really young siblings, and they don't even know who that is..
Apparently that show was at its peak in 2008-10.. So, please Vanis, have something better than 'Yo Gabba' for us..
I just can't bring myself to buy more.. Though I probably should, but I'll be happy to break even..
Bryce, you are so beyond biased it isn't even funny.. Monster is diabetes in a can, and tastes awful..
VitaminFIZZ does have sugar in it and that is why it tastes so sweet.. It just happens to be a sugar that your body can't process and digest..
Bryce, you are so beyond biased it isn't even funny.. Monster is diabetes in a can, and tastes awful..
VitaminFIZZ does have sugar in it and that is why it tastes so sweet.. It just happens to be a sugar that we can't process and digest..
I agree, there are flippers in this right now as it is being Alerted and showing up on volume scans..
I like what you replied with FreeBird, my pps is .7ish.. Lets hope 2016 lights this thing up..
I really wish I could of bought in at that Market Cap.. I like the enthusiasm going around this week, and I think if we ever have a year, 2016 is going to be it.. I am going to be much smarter this time around though..
Fingers Crossed!
I seriously hope you guys are right.. would love to make some money on this thing...
Fingers Crossed
We DO NOT have a healthier option...
Vanis has even stated that they are going to have to update the formula to keep up with the more healthy options that will be coming out..
I also cannot sink anymore money into this thing, and at this point I would like to just break even..
As to which drink tastes the best, this board is incredibly biased, and rightfully so since you all have a ton of money on the line, but if you just keep asking random people, you will learn that everyone's palate is different.. Some will prefer Spark Ice, some will like Fizz, some will like FruitO2 and on and on..
Just like some like Pepsi, some like Coke, some like RC.. Oh, have I mentioned that my Dad is better than yours and he is the best Dad in the whole world?
I agree... I will be happy to get at least 40% of my money back..
The thing the hardcores don't get, is that is a monster move.. Very rare, and we will be damn lucky if we run past .20 cents..
Last week we all saw what dilution does to the pps, and if Minerco doesn't plan to be profitable for another year or two, you can bet that more is on its way...
Same boat as well, and it will take a miracle for us to recoup that kind of loss..
Fingers crossed for a miracle run..
I've tried them all brother.. For what I can get in Chicago:
FriutWater
VitaICE
SarklingICE
Nice
FruitO2
RefresherICE
I liked FruitWater the best, and Refresher Ice is good too.. I do agree Fizz tastes awesome, but with all those brands, it is a very hard market to make money in.
Everyone's palate is different. I kind of like how much carbonation is in Sparkling Ice, where VitaminFizz isn't as carbonated.. There is a heavy bias here because everyone has money in the game, but in the end.. So many versions on the shelf, $1 a bottle , we don't know the margin, but there is going to have to be A LOT sold to make decent money..
Coca-Cola pulled the plug.. That says something if you're honest and realistic..
I've thought the same thing about the websites.. Appearance is almost everything..
On another note, did any of you do your homework on why Coca-Cola pulled the plug on FruitWater?
1. They are scrapping it for a new and more healthy version.
2. More importantly, because they could not make money in this category.. Coca-Cola, with millions in the bank, with distribution, with product and brand recognition, and THEY couldn't make any money in the Sparkling Water category..
3. I speculate, but I think this is a reasonable reason to believe as to why the 'Giants in the Shadows' may have so readily relinquished their skin in this game..
I am playing with my calculator.. If we dip back into the .01s I might buy some more..
We have more going for us except for one thing.. The volume and new money on the OTC because of the Pot Rush..
The Wolf, 420i, and Twitter is what helped run this thing to .04.. We don't have that kind of interest anymore..
I sincerely hope we do have a monster run though. Would love to make some money, been waiting a long time.
congrats Miners... Fingers crossed that we truly do begin to trend up..
reading comprehension is very poor on this message board..
I am sorry I call it that way I see it FreeBird.. I just can't cheerlead anymore.. That never did any of us any good.. We were all warned, but continued to cheerlead, and look where we are..
I am sorry if I have offended you..
Read Scott's e mail...
'Your position is better off than many other investors..'
or Something to that effect..
#ReadingComprehension
Chalking this up to 'bad trading' is the dumbest new phrase being regurgitated on this Message Board..
1. I am not a trader..
2. I have never once complained about the pps.. My money is gone, it was 3k, big deal.
3. I just point out facts and bring realism to a board that is mislead by fairytales.
* The realism is that most MINERs need to go to $1 or more to break even.. I have 3 young kids message me all the time because they followed my advice in the early days and are now down 90-98% down on their investment..
Most of the Miners I talk to are tapped out, they don't have the funds or time to gamble and trade..
My break even pps is .70, and I would be happy to get 40% of my money back at this point, and I just don't have the desire to put more money into this mess..
You Miners have selective reading don't you...?
Not a big deal when the majority need to go past $1.. If it holds, and truly continues to trend higher that will be amazing, but I will have to see it first before I can assess where we are..
Common Cents, we've all been supporting MINE for 2 years now, and you mysteriously show up out of nowhere, so I am going to take you with a grain of salt..
Certainly you should be able to understand that.
My MINE money has been lost for 2 years now, so it isn't that big of a deal for me..
No, 20% doesn't mean anything when MINE has gone down 20% every week for the past 2 years.. Lets see if this amazing move lasts and truly begins to trend higher..
I have young kids messaging me all the time about all the money they've lost from following my advice in the early days..
I am just realistic now.. Have to see it to believe it.
A 10 fold increase, so to .20 cents? Big Deal, the majority of the Miners need this thing to go past $1 to break even..
I've seen BudGuy's posts for a few years, don't put too much stock into what he says, he is also the king of trades gone bad, so don't let him fool you.. Thing he doesn't understand, is most MINErs who were mislead by Vanis have been tapped out of funds for the past year waiting on his promises..
I also can't cheer today's 20% triumph over BMAK.. That is just more BS, and will probably sell off a little bit once the traders are happy..
It will take nothing short of a miracle to move MINE even past .15 cents.. Which is a 500% move, or in other terms, a massive move to just .15 cents..
#SadReality