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It completely boggles my mind why people are even still posting here this stock and company are done for. This stock is completely unusable when it comes to passing out shares to finacial institutions to pay off debt and continue operations. What finacial institution in their right mind would trade debt for this useless trash fire. Next stop bankruptcy like I predicted months ago. Everyone should just leave this page and let this stock die in peace. Idk why I even came back to post this lol smh
Has anyone been able to sell at .0001?? I'm scared I won't be able to sell to count my losses on my taxes. Has anyone sold since there's been no bid??
Shareholders are loosing intrest in this stock. There won't be anyone to buy the stock that needs to be diluted. They won't be able to keep the doors open .. a bankruptcy is on the way
It's not going to go up lol how can't a stock wit over 7 billion in the os budge??it cant.. Considering the deal was for less then the forty percent of debt reduction they where touting. Smh I guarantee this stock won't budge to tomorrow
Actually the os is at least 7.1 billion it's in the filings
Your answering your own question. What stock that is in the trips and has products with potential? Exactly. Very few. So why is mtvx part of the very few stocks in the trips that have actual products ? Because it's a horribly ran company. Not because it's some "hidden gem" hard to hide a stock with 8 billion shares in the float.
It's called an educated guess. And lately the majority of my educated guesses have be spot on.
Doesn't really matter the NT is pretty common amongst most company.. the numbers won't be good anyway.. good or bad the 10q won't any effect on the stock what so ever. So it really doesn't matter at all lol
Lmao 8 innings to go? the game has been over. Oh and by the way apt lost horribly . This stock is dead I predicted this about a month ago .. the dilution will come back to bite them in the butt. They need us to buy the shares from the the toxic financiers. But eventually this stock will be completely unattractive to investors. The buying will come to a complete halt. Then APT will no longer be able to fund operations through the sale of common stock . How will they operate the have negative cashflow, a dead stock , and horrible credit that prevents them from getting loans. They will have to file for bankruptcy. The only way this stops is if they pay of the convertible notes with the cerner deal IF that ever happens, and preform a small r/s of 2/1. There's no other way they simply can't make enough margin on their products. But we all no they won't pay of convertible notes . So I'm predicting a bankruptcy before July of 2015
Lmao really? It's been 40 min and not a single share has been bought today.some accumulation lmao smh
A buy back is not an option lmao. Why would they buy shares when the have a ton of liabilities that need to be taken care of. They aren't worried about the health of its stock it's serving it's purpose f exactly how the want it to. They arent about to waste money buying shares
It will take a year or 2 to finish that off at this pace
Yeah they are
Lmao so the dilution is just going to magically disappear? While the getting is good?? Lmao smh.. there won't be a rise in the price for a LONG TIME if ever. A r/s is more likely then this is to rise. So please people do not "get them while the getting is good " as some would say lmao. 1.1 billion diluted last month alone with no end in sight this stock has been ruined.
Exactly a share buy back will never happen here. The best option would be paying off the convertible notes. But the problem is management doesn't feel the pain from the convertible notes like we do. They see the convertible notes as solving a problem for them to us the convertible notes are the problem. They will see paying the notes off as wasting money they could spend on something else. They don't understand the benefits of a healthy stock and a loyal investor pool, the benefits of having these would far out way the cost that it would take to satisfy those debts. But they don't understand the stock market and they are getting consultation from Mathew Schissler who knows what path he pointed them down.
Don't hold your breath. They just needed to create buying for the huge dump today. How do you do that? Talk very vaguely about an "asset sale" that's coming later in the week. I bet when it does come out its going to be a far cry from the 40% reduction in debt they touted earlier in the year. We are about to find out what management is really about in the next 2 weeks.
Why would we have to trade a billion? Just because 1 billion shares were diluted to the market doesn't memean there has to be 1 billion shares traded. But a high percentage of these shares and new to the market..plus there could be additional shares being dumped that we don't know about yet in addition to the billion from 2 weeks ago.
Lol sounded like the "updates throughout the week" bs they fed us last week and all we got was a later pr that didn't update us with anything it was just the same information about how they had a "record" number of deals contact them. Considering they already told us that a week prior I'm still waiting on those updates we where supposed to get from AIM. I seriously dout we will get anything today. Seems like they were just try to pick up the buying for the major dumping late in the week they new would take place. Every time they say expect some news this week just expect a huge dump of shares they are synonymous
You know why it seems like management doesn't acknowledge the shareholders?? Because they see that we are too busy arguing with each other about who is right or wrong , they know that don't have to address anything.
It can. If they can satisfy all notes before the split. Then provide proof that they can now operate on their own two feet because the have improved clientele and margins. We won't be able to get back all that we lost but if they do the right thing with the assets money they can really turn this around for everyone. But I honestly believe they are selfish and only going to look out for their own hides. So most likely the notes will hang on after the r/s and it will drown the stock once again.. we need to make a push and give management options on what's the best use of the money from the assets because we have a stake in this as well
Another problem is we haven't be given any information that they have gotten rid off the financial problems surrounding the manufacturing of their products. We don't even know for a fact that they have producing products for all we know production could be at a stand still. All they say is we have order's why haven't we heard of any of those orders being filled and shipped.. just a total disappointment
Apt needs to pay money for the motoped deal today I believe. We will probably get an 8k next week about another issuance of shares. What a shame we paid for so much and we won't get anything back .. I want a motoped for my losses damnit lol
They wont it wouldnt fit the trend that they have been following, which is anti shareholders. And they have people like schissler telling them their current path is the best way.. why listen to a guy who has been involved with 3 failing company's who all have massive dilution problems just like apt
The only thing that can turn this stock around is if they were to actually close the cerner deal and use a portion of the funds to do something shareholder friendly like pay off all convertible notes and make a deal with IronRidge. I believe this can be all satisfied within $3 million. Then unfortunately this stock does need a r/s. But I think it can be workable with a small 2/1 r/s with no more dilution then they still have money to pay off a large portion for debt and R&D. But then most importantly you have a confident community of investors that are willing to pour in millions in to the compamy. So they would be getting huge returns on that $3 mil
But the problem is the majority of shares aren't in the hands of true investors. The majority of the float is in the hands of toxic financier that want their money now so there's nothing stopping them from dumping those billions in the market.honestly I'm still holding my shares only because I'm banking on apt failing shutting down and then selling the shell company to someone else, and hopefully I'll get my money back on the next pump by the next company. Lol
Yea I wouldnt buy before a reverse split and even after. What is the conversation with paul you speak of? But imo shares shouldn't be bought here untill these notes are satisfied, but that could take an eternity. Even with the possibility of a cerner deal won't raise the price there's probably about 4-5 billion worth of shares that want to be unloaded in the range of .0004 - .0008 range.. that makes it completely impossible to have upward movement. There is no point of buying
That's never gonna happen. Even if the cerner deal closes it wont budge this stock the are way to many shares getting diluted with more to come simple supply and demand . And right now there is virtually and unlimited supply of shares to buy from.
Lmao my apt stock is wort under $100 smh
Lmao you don't need to be an insider to know this business is a failure
Unfortunately it wont be
Lmao 1 billion shares diluted in less then a month.Wow that shuts down all those ironridge is done rumors. I told you guys the os is over 7 billion by now .no one wanted to listen
Its not like it's the first time this has happened smh
So what the heck happened to the release of updates this week we were supposed to get ?? Lmao these guys are a piece of work.
Based on your calculation? ?? What calculation might that be??? There's only onone calculation needeneeded to know if ironridge is done. It's called the calculation period. Not untill $50,000,000 is trade will they be done .. we are nearly passed half way through.. your basing you idea off the fact that they released a pr ?? Apts not doing a share buy back lmao what money are they spending to buy back shares lol ??? You saying that apt is passing out conveconvertible notes just to use that same money to buy the shares back ?? Lmao does that seem logical to you ?? And anyone still being fooled to "average down" needs to listen to my advice and don't waist another dime on these shares until there's a reverse split and apt shows they are done with using the stock as an atm.
Actually..... who said I was basing that off of the stock price?? The company is in finacial ruin you don't need the stock price to see that sir
Lol apts "overall business model" has been a complete failure. The only "soild" thing coming for this company is the asphalt as it goes crashing into bankruptcy dragging the common shareholders down with it. So your saying bringing in a decent product is going to solve a failing business model?? Yeah right. We don't even know if they have the capacity to produce these bikes they can't even get there current production operation together right. Lol somehow acquiring a another company that is having the same problems with production is going to help apt . Yea ok man.
Why average down with .0002s when you know it's going to .0001?? That's what I've been trying to get across during this 4 month continuous down fall people where saying it's a strong buy all the way down. This is not a strong buy at any time.. every time you buy you will loose value. I've been trying to tell people the amount of dilution will never let this rise no matter what.. 7-6 billion shares are out, the 50 million shares we see on the ask right now is nothing compared to the shares that are trying to be sold right now. 50 mil is a VERY small percentage of 7-6 billion. There is no end in sight.
Possibly explains the massive dumping the last two days we will probably get another 8k about a new convertible note passed out. Another thing paid for by shareholders. I wonder how much that booth cost at the presentation. Considering they are dirt broke. If that doesn't translate to sales it's going to look pretty wasteful.
Right on the money .0002 within 2 weeks.. .0001 in the next two weeks. This dumping is just ridiculous. I've never been apart of a stock this bad.. its definitely one of the worst performing stocks of the year no doubt
Yea shows you how much dilution is going on. A huge spike in volume and still at .0003 that's bad no getting around that