CNBC hosts said $XOM was the key to oil prices today (along with someone else)... and one of them closed out the late show before MadMoney with SELL $XOM ... LOL ...

Like to clarify $SD receives cash infusion on their Trusts and not the other way around. They are partners with any of us that have MLP shares too. They shelter that cash with the expenses (us Schedule K/4797).

So this $SDT and Mississippian Trust II and Permian Basin all produce cash flow to $SD. Or is something this simple more complex BS corporate tax crap?

Suncor would've already bought out $SD if it matched their target area of Canadian Alantic oil companies... It's just a matter of time XOM earnings et al today were to be the drive in today's prices...

I remember when silver dollar was $35'ish an oz. and for a short time it crashed for a couple weeks or so... and I spoke with the local coin shop and he said it didn't last long because no coin shop would sell any. That he tried calling around to buy some and they wouldn't sell any to him either... This was pre Dec 12, 2012 Mayan calendar thing....(ERR... maybe it was the year after... lol) so demand for end of world protection still existed very strongly (or, yeah the US government worthless dollar fear after Mayan... one of the two).

Could any drop meet the same resistance? Until they go Bankrupt I doubt they would sell on the cheap and would start doing their it would grade out at ... again to sell higher...

So after that I noticed they started to rid their inventory so they could respond to drops better months later...

Now its at any point if the general public noticed a the chaos will not occur they will dump (that'll keep prices from rising in silver if that...)

But one end of the times sign is people hoarding gold....

I remember hearing last year about $5 silver and low gold.... a quick Google on "silver below 5" and number two result gives something similar... but it was a guest on CNBC or Bloomberg... hard to say because some hotels had either and others had both channels on cable... http://www.ino.com/blog/2014/12/will-silver-drop-to-4-5oz/ or maybe even on Coast To Coast AM Radio Show... lol... either case this link supports possible $700 gold and 4-5 silver written Dec 2014.

Now commercials on radio show support silver by stating major bank bought large sums of silver.... so maybe that price supported it... and I think Russia backing the ruble with gold was not as well known then too with them buying a bunch that year and early this year (but old news, haven't checked up on them, they probably kept buying) thus supporting gold too.

Like in New Jersey? (In the debate Gov. Christie said he couldn't wait to take Hillary on that he was going to get rid of her, something like that...)

I'll take a 1 for 1 trade of BP common for my partnership share of these vast reserves of oil pools... lol... Err just make an offer BP...

Actually T. Boone Pickens on CNBC several weeks ago guaranteed NG would be over $3/mcf at end of the year... (then they took it down to $2... Err, I was like a sucker play or over reaction to longterm Winter forecast.)

But I wasn't willing to go buy call options either... hedge funds own us... many times I've seen them move it the other way to panic people out then back to the analyst forecasts it goes... stocks or commodities...

Maybe some regulatory stuff by Carson to help us? lol

The new speaker of the House (USA Congress) just said the House is broke and everyone of them clapped... go figure...

Anyway I wonder if Pickens still thinks $3/mcf or Mcf whatever it is....

edit>>> T. Boone said he wasn't ready to call NG yet but guaranteed at the EOY price... (He implied it would be much higher long term (i.e. after EOY) ... I guessed because of LNG (liquid NG) shipments to start soon)...

Now I see why CNBC just replayed Bush attacking Rubeo.. What a joke of a probability of winning... Rubio close to 50% ... Good God! No wonder (besides their female on the ticket hangup) the GOP can't beat a Democrat... lol

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Anything is better than the management of ALU overall... and Nokia's offer would be giant in networking... this is a move I thought Yahoo would make last year for ALU in their networking target. But this 10/28 letter says offer... when will it be a done deal?

And one more thing Monday NOAA must've recently released long term outlook or whatever... I saw the local morning news here show the 3 month forecast having the polar jet stream staying high by Canadian border (that probably added to it). Warmer Winter along the Canadian border and colder Winter in Texas because of El Nino...

And they just said inventory numbers moved oil today.

And when does the polar jetstream not dip down into the lower 48? I think 1-2 times at the most in the last 40 years... like even in 80-81 mild Winter it still dipped down late like February... lol

Prices were hit hard Monday and Tuesday on general push against the oil industry... I put some post in $SD on it yesterday and example http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118044349

Investors Hub main page has oil graph of Brent http://investorshub.advfn.com/

And a Brent & WTI site http://www.dailyfx.com/crude-oil

Yesterday they tried pushing 30's again (some analysts commentators) but Cramer said 2 weeks ago to ignore it and buy in low 40's. Yesterday on CNBC they said they would be looking at two key things on oil this week something today and storage USA Thursday... I didn't catch what today was (but thought is was storage or demand related world)...

The beginning (2nd paragraph) and last 3 of the article at the bottom http://www.salon.com/2015/09/20/how_gop_party_bosses_will_rig_the_system_to_keep_trump_from_winning_partner/

They say rule changes made to put baby in even if Trump wins by votes in primary election.

I can't believe anyone could even imagine that the prices don't already reflect a super deal in SD but hedge funds take advantage of whims to get panic sells...

This article writer is obviously short on oil industry http://www.barchart.com/headlines/story/11697603/next-few-weeks-will-reveal-full-extent-of-oil-industry-suffering

But considering what they thought in March http://www.barchart.com/headlines/story/6272491/glut-rut-the-energy-report-3-13-15

...it seems like they are clueless too....

I didn't see in Barclays article anything on electric cars and inflation (perhaps they hoped for a wash) but inflation isn't listed as a reason so it should be a lot higher than their write-up which is on supply.

In the supply side they thought tight oil should take on new demand, but that won't work with OPEC desire to keep percentages as it would dilute their percentage.

The bigger question is, at what point will Saudi fields run lower on available to pump production, because back in the 90's (somewhere around there) they were worried about running out of oil. I assume new wells, deeper wells and then horizontal has bought a seemingly unending supply. But I don't think earth's making of oil can keep up with the draw in that region. Iran was supposed to be using more than they were producing already so how do they find the ability to export? NG ... oh, nuclear power (I guess). But if its power plant related then demand may flatline or fall with windturbines and solar panels...

Thank for the story link its was useful. I don't feel sorry for South American countries or others, like Brazil uses ethanol cars... and I bought a flex fuel SUV in Dec 2011 because I was worried about 4-5 gasoline based on oil supply not their EPA or refinery shutdown manipulation. lol

A red flag for oil prices staying down showed up today (meaning must going to rise (double plus) months away or over a year http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118030059 which is in response to http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2015/10/25/chinese-company-texas-oil-fields/74580400/ Chinese investment firm to buy Texas oil fields for $1.3B (Howard and Borden counties)...

The benefits of asking the clerk several months ago why so many oil workers were in Big Spring instead of Midland... lol

But it could be because they've developed it but are in debt (remember need 85/bbl ) so it was easy long term win for Chinese investors (instead of building empty cities)... ??? Tilt... so back to $BP and other big oil if its because oil will rise better than expected sooner... nice to jump in...

Whatever happened to the Mexican appeal for payment of their claim like 12 billion? That they claimed a judge ignored/through out something... it was brought up like a year after the spill... ah yes... bribes to judge is what they claimed...

This area is where they found major oil below very hard deep rock. They were able to drill through that rock only by fracking the rock with chemicals in a very expensive drill. It was thought that oil had to be above $85/barrel in order to develop the area. (its just off the Midland Basin http://www.caddominerals.com/sell-oil-gas-mineral-rights-permian-basin-texas.aspx (see just to the East).

So does China not know about the movement in the USA to end chemical fracturing or (an and/or, or) they must think oil prices are about to explode back into the triple digits....

Also, during this time deep drilling just north of Synder Texas was causing earthquakes (maybe similar to Oklahoma's fracking quakes and Dallas/Fort Worth) which is in NE of this Big Spring (city) area counties that China invested in.

4'ish years ago they (Chinese) heavily invested in a deal with Chesapeake ($CHK) with some odd billion dollars (like 3 if memory isn't blurred) for Eagleford play.

Why doesn't Donald Trump buyout this money making machine for $7/share (even with high oil prices they were 6+/share) and make a connection with the Southern states? He gets Oklahoma (is OK) and Mississippi (the formation named like the state) all in one big deal (and maybe Texas too, as, "What keeps Texas from falling off the map?" Because Oklahoma *****.

Why is it so windy in Kansas? Because Oklahoma ***** and Nebraska blows.

The benefits of a classical West Texas education... SW Conf. jokes.

That's not possible, markets are closed for Thanksgiving Holiday... unless the new scam is Frankfurt Stock Exchange... lol

Someone did post about being in the company from the beginning. You'll have to do a search for it. Seems like it was a while ago.

Google ["search info" site:investorshub.advfn.com] go through all the old posts

I don't remember the wording though... I usually save things in my mind by as I saw it not as a literal robot replay... but in other words it may be hard to find but its there...

Yeah but two of those companies have positive EPS (the others I don't know, they might, but two I know have ++EPS++), while I see this $ARP has N/A.

USA Today has story on returning residents of Mosul and another on Russian planes broke down for maintenance problems of the harsh environment (1/3 broke)... Put those two front page stories together and it could equate to ISIL taking more control again... implied by their stories anyway.

We've already surrendered as O-care takes guns away and O-andCo. don't plan on leaving (backed by Biden staying, the BS look into was a con to say time ran out, his son stuff was last year... and I applied and stressed taking VP job so Biden could run back somewhere almost a year ago).. or... lol its just that they made a deal with Hill for unopposed win in Obama's convention election, she could won if she fought it). Hmmm starting to lean on solid he ain't planning on leaving.

They're backing the ruble with gold, they won't sell while Putin is in control...

Gold Rush is on tonight... lol

Todd and company are such airheads, along with the rest of those slooth dudes... I have observed through the years... flaws... they must've got no more than 30% of the gold available in their weekly plus cleanouts...

It'll be nice to see Freddy Dodges nugget catcher, but at the least taking all they're doing they should cleanout constantly/daily. You know, dudes, you can buy more mats? So while Jack and grandson work on cleanouts the workers and thinker can dig and haul. Just one flake in the bottom section of cleanout means you're not cleaning out enough, losing gold.

Then they should have tubs at end that create a whirlpool trapping any heavy stuff, so they catch the overflow not the pond... Zzz Why can't a like a 2 o'clock lip forcing water back to top lightly as the top water flows over and out to pond.... of course test ... eh, whatever, its their lost gold...

Only thing I can figure is they are afraid they may still file for Bankruptcy...

The Miss. play was not as long strong production lasting as they expected... I remember when SDT came out, some CNBC guest or host said it would end up like some other MLP at the time (which was over a 100/share)...

It's a bargain if they don't have to file Bankruptcy... for sure, for sure, good buddy...

Do you mind sharing what that in general might be based on? I don't think is MiddleEast war as someone else said they were loading on Iraqi oil field companies but didn't say why? Perhaps world demand is rising faster than they thought?

A couple of years ago they tried refocusing on oil since they were so heavy in NG and NG was down and oil was flying high... so that had to lead to a lot of oil wells. But you're right about the NG part should be good to back over $3 as many expect.... but could be much bigger as many were converting from heating oil to NG residential and power companies converted coal to NG.... it could go up big if pipelines can't keep up with demand again. There is plenty of gas in the ground, just getting it to demand area is the trick (err, trick? Yeah, Enron tricked in false supply problem so hearsay says....)

That's the million (billions) dollar question every in $DNR (oil industry) would like to know. Here oil down today and DNR has moved up big twice. Looks good IMO, ... Cramer, MadMoney, CNBC, thinks low 40's on oil is it (he expected a little move down in otherwords) but said Goldman expected 30's... Cramer worked for Sacs first up, then his own hedge fund, then CNBC MadMoney so he's biased for Goldman Sacs plenty, but not this time.... He did oil week last week on MadMoney. And this guy, shotdown $CHK whom everyone knows has to go up (so maybe he think BK) and he's positive oil over Goldman Sacs because of 1.5 million less produced for 2016 is his foot in the mouth for US production.

You don't think someone is trying to tell us everything is okay? (3 is a charm)

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Just real quick maybe because they know it'll be higher this time next year and will get massive write-offs from loses of the last quarter and maybe next. Because they're not limited to just (3,000) as Schedule D if its not long term... just a quick guess as just did taxes for Oct. 15, check with tax advisor of course for real results... When did they buy in at 17?

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/emes/insider-trades

Wow, that didn't last long.... lol it was down 40% now up...

Cramer, MadMoney, CNBC, attributed it to rise in oil prices Monday before last Monday... as they Industrials follow oil... but since then oil's dropped to 45 from 50+ or 5 dollars a barrel, so kind'of like huh?

Actually worse for those owned for the three months ended if they have to pay income tax (gains) in net of those 3 months from schedule K... but most likely it'll be a loss since no distribution (in other words if their was a net gain there should've been a distribution, but maybe it was too small).

Now any current owner loses because the drop in share price will be more than 28 pct that even if it paid that much next qtr couldn't make up for it... lol

I thought this was expected... so its probably hedge funds trying to force panic selling.

But in this case its the bondholders (is it not?) that caused them to go to bankruptcy because of the cause of a buyout they could ask for a buyout but they didn't buyout they took 49.9% and changed name to reflect the new partnership of the previous private Sabine Oil with the debt ridden public company Forest Oil.

Again the SEC should send Sabine officials to jail (or the Bankruptcy Judge) if they do away with common shares as they've know from the get-go that Forest had too much debt and even afterwards in the press release kept telling us they were looking out for shareholders interests. They can and did make the bond payments. It was the BS pay me now greed that (lawyers that told them they could - shit maybe the lawyers should go to jail) got Sabine into forced bankruptcy to avoid troubles with bond group.

The fact that they hired a firm the specializes in bankruptcy and then told us they were looking out for our interests proves they should be charged with securities fraud if they do away with commons....

Alcatel keeps draining earnings made by Lucent so I doubt this company can ever go a whole year of positive EPS, since it has trouble doing 2 in a row.

Now, go figure this out, Alcatel buys-out Lucent dirt cheap then carries them through until they start making money so for at least 3 years now they drain profits for the Lucent they carried. Seems like an anti-income tax maneuver by $ALU to me, especially when a couple of years or so ago they were supposed to be worth 9/share on just on feature... which is what being used now under a different name everywhere (the black box item for large buildings for networking (Internet)). So I guess all this massive profits from network/router upgrades for faster Internet is just being buried by depreciation, write-downs, creative accounting to avoid income tax. If Alcatel had a brain, (oh they do in Bell Labs but that's not management), they would buyback shares slowly but surely below 3 for sure and sell again in double digits for financing when they needed it, instead of whatever they're doing with profits... I hate the corporate world of wasting our money on CEO salaries... they're not in close to being worth anything close to a million not matter how could they are. If they want to share in their success they should buy share of the company they are running like a normal person does, or resign and do something else. This stick it to shareholders has got to stop.

Nope, that's not the way partnerships work. While you bought in on the partnership via your brokerage account you actually became a partner in the firm. You get a schedule K showing all the profit by month you have to add to your income (or loss for write down) then you get the distribution (dividend) that needs to cover your tax bracket level on the schedule K or you have just lost money (for example, your tax bracket 28% and each month you had partner income but quarterly dividend was only 20% - you now lost 8% off of break-even on the schedule K income that was covered by the dividend - and 28% your income tax rate on the remainder of schedule K income that wasn't covered by dividend on partnership).

You need a regular company (corporate or incorporated) that pays a dividend that you own shares of the company in for your type of dividend think... these limited partnerships are different you bare the corporate income tax as your personal income tax for your portion.

That YouTube link was something else... but what followed about the salt mine is something you just have to see (jaw dropping indead)

2 bits worth... lol... We're business partners... lol

Long live the Queen (and she did, who takes here place BTW... she had to, as Charles is not consider stable enough to takeover unless planting gardens in city is only requirement... I feel the hearsay of him having is wife wacked is enough to pass it down to the younger prince... maybe long live the Queen some more?)

Maybe Genel is just a temp BP until unrest in Iraq is over... BP might just swallow them up as Nat Rothschild is on Genel board... this is pretty British http://www.genelenergy.com/about-us/our-senior-team/board-of-directors/ But Genel has NG, is Gulf Keystone not interested in pipelines to Europe for NG or they just haven't found yet... hmmm maybe why bother if Genel has made and stock swap offer?

Yep, Rockstar made the deal to monetize it... made clear for millions by the deal... this could be a breach, which could be worse than the little deal.... thanks for providing some details... 5 figures and one time only? I hope that's after they paid law fees and court costs...

In a way it helps because now everyone infringing those patents will have to pay the tiddlywinks license fee to avoid months of depositions and hearings... since the precedence is set how can they get more?