PC, how can you not understand that when the unpaired electron (nuclear) reorients its dipole moment ( magnetic domain) that the potential energy gets expressed? This is the source of the amplified electrical energy. No voodoo.

thv


Moving on.

This post makes a statement that is untrue. I have no clearer way to say it. thv

Accidental repeat post

To your credit you declare this area of science beyond your area of expertise. To your detriment, Holcomb does not claim this is a free energy device at any time. He explains....in LAYMAN'S terms.. where this energy comes from, and is does not come from nowhere. His video makes it very clear from where it comes and exactly how energy is conserved.


The concept adds perfectly valid and proven nuclear magetic domain energy to the energy input. No magic. No hocus pocus. Input energy A, transduce energy B into the same form as energy A (refer to your earlier correct post on this very subject), add them both together at the output. Result: Output EXCEEDS inut from A. Units of like energy are additive, as you know.

The law you cite does not forbid adding like energy forms together. This is what happens within the system. Further, at no time can the those internal ions kick out one iota more of the potential energy than those domains contain.i.e. the energy is conserved ...per law.

The system is tested and verified indendently.

The patents have been examined and allowed.
Commerce has begun in the form of licenses, royalties, leases, even installations.

Like any new technology, it takes yeaars for the world at large to come to terms with it. Look at the big hit nuclear energy was at first, electric light bulbs (declared to be proof of the devil's existence once upon a time), cutting steel with water, microwave ovens...COOKING WITHOUT FIRE? impossible. We still have people firmly convinced the world is flat.

Thv

PC.. Please post the text of the Law of Physics you say Holcomb has claimed to have breached.

I'll stand by.

thv

There you have it folks. Some people prefer to reject simple fact.

Rather than investigating ( a.k a. Due Diligence) it simply suits their personal motives to misinform ad nauseum.

That is basically all that happens on this board anymore. Those who deny it will never say anything to the contrary here even if they believe it to be so . There is zero regard for any human beibg who has put his good faith and effort into this venture. Zero. Worse, there exists circumstantial evidence that some here are only here to seed doubt as this is the only board they frequent.

Pc, Rich, others never (never, ever)offer a shred of due diligence to support what they post. Just a perpetual carousel of text that goes nowhere, convinces nobody and which achieves some nefarious end I imagine they deeply desire but havent the conviction to post here .

The independent tests were done (publicly available on this forum, too) and the system was found to be what they said it was. There is just no possible way the United States Patent Office would issue several patents on this if it were all folly. PC knows this, R2, knows this, crowin knows this.

No over unity anyrhing here. Just good science tied to creative minds, as always.

thv

I take the position that you reject out of hand the information the company and others have provided the general public regarding the technology being shared. Please share with us the specific evidence you possess which is contrary to that already provided. You are taking a very firm stand so it is reasonable to request your evidence.

I will assume you are intelligent and evidence- driven.

I will also assume you understand how to read and to comprehend the financial details provided in the company's quarterly reports. ( If these assumptions are not reasonable in your view and I will alter the depth, scope and tone of my responses accordingly.)

Lets go from there and sidestep the insulting and the clearly argumentative parts of your post. You declare me to be some sort of..........fill in the blank. I post verifiable data. Will you do the same or will you continue behave as you have been? I'll address reasonable arguments made in intelligent, thoughtful ways. I will ignore any attempt to condescend, disparage, to dodge direct, relevant questions and to insult me.

Fair enough?

thv

Gosh, PC, I even gave you a hint.

Look, most people here see right through the mirage of everyone who does what you are doing here. Yet, you would have people think that I am the one who is easily amused.

What gets me is the blatant disregard for anyone who has made good faith efforts to produce something of value for others. You are plenty intelligent enough to understand that if a person tells a lie that there are those who, for better or for worse will believe the lie , then spread it far and wide. Lies are social currency for many. The damage can be beyond belief. Often, those who are involved by association for perfectly good reasons get irreparably hurt, sometimes until their death.

For me, truth is social currency. When someone invests time and energy into a good thing, I am one of those annoying people who likes to support them. Whem a lie gets exposed as a lie, even though most who spread the lie would never go back and try to undo any damage they had done, at some time or another, they will have to.

Do you not see how much work goes into trying to invent something of value. No, of course
not. If the system was your invention and you could show verifiable results I would support you to the max. For the sake of our discussion, let's assume this does not wotk. If so, it will fall of its own weight. You need not participate in the very behavior all of us would
rather see much less of in this world.

I guess I am politely requesting you use the better part of you .....in some good way.

Thank you, my little rant is done.

thv

Well, you walked right into that...as I had hoped you would. As I told you, whatever my credentials, they are irrelevent to this discussion.
Do carry.on, won,'t you? Finally this forum has some entertainment value.

What, no credit to google or MIT?

thv

I keep reading post #6993. I cannot believe it was ever meant to be taken seriously, but I think it actually was.

Fantastic!

thv

Oh, PC. There have been several independent tests. These tests, holy cow, were done by fully licensed electrical engineers who would never stake their professional reputations on mere, what did you say, meter-readings.
Further, several tests were done simultaneously..a three month long deep dive as the machinery ran at three different sites continuously.
Pontificate I will, based upon easy verifiable, independent and professional inspections.By All means do tell everyone how this company has spent untold millions on Rock solid R&D,, using decades old and perfectly well known and utilized technology from around the world as supported by Underwriters Laboratories and the NEC just to scam a few pennystock chasers out of, well, not very much.

By the way, my credentials are irrelevent in this discussion. This, you know, but you feel.compelled to bash them for a reason best understtod by schoolyard bullies. I get none of my sense of selfworth or self-esteem from people who behave as you do, so slam me as hard as what makes you feel good.


Yes, there is something despicable going on here ...and it is not the work of the company. HONESTLY, cannot wait to see what you post next. Bring it.

Oh, DO tell us more. This is fascinating. Magnetism is a force, not an energy. STUNNNG. ..An energy-less force! Nearly fell out of my chair on that one.
Tell us even more, please!!!!

thv

One of those independent tests verified the claims of the system manufacturer in September, 2021.

Well-written, yet 100% proveably wrong in any and all significant ways.

SGS is way, way beyond reproach. Whining that they have no credibility is just comical. Bring all your likeminded toolheads here to support you and nothing will change the facts. If you continue to try, it will demonstrate nothing of any value here. The time and energy is yours to waste.....so, go for it.

thv

You have already been outed as being incompetent on this subject. Consider spending some time learning more about the subject. With a better comprehension on your shoulders, you could actually be of value in this arena.

No law of physics has been violated here, just another human being applying his creativity and energy in a much needed area of science. It is sound, proven, established and very desireable.

By the way, this system is hardly energy from nothing. WOULD love to learn your theory of where the energy that provides a simple magnetic field in lodestone comes from. It is there, you can test it all day long. The rock is plugged into nothing, yet millenium after dark millenium there is the field. Almost seems as if the energy comes freely, no?

Little joke there for you, ha ha ha.

thv

Thankfully, for those who are inclined to take people at there word, the HES System, the Inline Power Generator was quite successfully tested in September of 2021 by one of the world's leading test/ review companies, SGS.

They found the technology to perform as presented and that it would easily integrate into amy 50Hz or 60 Hz system currently being used in the world today.

For those stating this concept is prohibited by laws of physics, it is obviously not so.
For those who might insinuate or imply this is an "over-unity" device, it is not. Nor does the device produce " free" energy. No such claim has ever been made by HES or Astra. Further, all of the technology used by the HES machinery has long been UL/NEC tested and approved per SGS.

All the information needed to resolve any confusion created by the ill-informed or the deliberately misleading is presented by SGS, HES and persons posting directly on this forum, links so provided by them.

I offer no comment on the endless derision posted here other than to say the motives for such behavior is obvious, it is deceptive and it is beneath disgusting.
q
Prattle on.

The infrastructure for local space is about to start being built. Companies like this one will play a huge role here. They have been gearing up for years and now that the private sector can get employees to and from worksites anywhere from EARTH to the moon and beyond ...and at least eight governments have viable space programs, we are at the ground floor.

After AI, then comes Spiritual Science.

THV

P.. ..I am all up for fun. I am. Always have been.
In our context here I just cannot abide by the one aspect few seldom acknowledge, i.e., the trashing of serious efforts made by people working hard over long period of time to do something good.
As you know, this is a real part of building anything worthwhile. At the end of this workchain is some employee who is trying to put food on his or her table for the family. If the company folds because others despicably trashed the work they were doing in good faith, then society does not get the benefit of the work done. Life stays just alittle bit harder until some future effort is made to carry on. In the meantime, hardship results for many that was otherwise avoidable.

THIS rant is an oversimplification but you get the point. Support people who are trying to do good work. Dont undermine them for greed or entertainment. You have a soul after all. It benefits greatly from trying to evolve ans improve it. Killing good work keeps you stuck in the mud spiritually and only your own efforts can lift you out of that .

thv

I wonder whatever could be your motivation for posting things that are so very easily refutable. Anyone can easily research the company and its work to come to an understanding which is exactly the opposite of what you post.
It almost seems as though one could not care less about the work that has been undertaken to develop this and the huge investments made to properly document everything as required by the SEC and OTCMarkets.

This comes off looking like an effort to keep the market price as low as possible for one's own personal gain, either by producing the perception that all is disreputable here in every way...thereby lowering the value of shares in the eyes of the marketplace...and/ or by short selling. Imagine working hard to produce something useful to others only to have anonymous people work equally hard to disparage and to damage your work only because they can make money for themselves by doing so. NO better way to ruin morale, to discourage discovery and innovation in either the public or the private sector. Is this what is going on here? If yes, how do you support efforts you think are worthwlhile?

At this point I can only offer my opinion that a controlled, measured roll-out is the only smart way to proceed. Beta- testing gets you so far, then it must be set out to function in the real world where hackers and hacker- wanna- be-s can start their usual garbage right along with software bugs.

Regardless, the infra- structure must be ready well ahead of time. If the system is truly robust, their competition will see this straight away. Those interested in damaging te app's functionality will probably set about attacking as soon as they have discovered a perceived vulnerability.

If they start getting serious attention from the marketplace the world- wide intelligence community will start to creat back doors to monitor users in a way the company likely will never discover.

When the company arrives at a certain moment of high confidence, I would expect a rigorour marketing/PR campaign to kick in and PPS should react accordingly. I still feel optimistic about the SuperApp.
The company has put quite alot of effort into it without letting their excitement undermine their plan.

Yes, I do wish they'd communicate more and in an improved way, but they're no fools. Competition is fierce and the stakes for them are pretty high.

thv

For the curious, the HES System is not presented as a perpetual motion device as is sometimes posited here. However one wishes to characterize its functionality, it is a clever adaptation of emf fields and electron orbitals of Iron atoms. It is owhere near as confounding as an MSAART device but easily as useful.

I notice the OS has gone up a bit since early May. Was just over 81M shares, now 87.7M shares. No update to low float since March, 12.15M (source: otcmarkets.com), Bloomberg presently reports about 15M .

Not unreasonable to think increases may come from compensation packages for yet to be disclosed incoming Board members.

They continue to run a very tight ship. My expectation is that 4-6 weeks the ball moves more aggressively and pps heads back to new high. As far as anyone knows, the plan remains to uplist to a major board this year. A small RS (4:1) would not be out of the question, but they dont really need one at this point.

Things are looking up for Trust Stamp. Ive been very willing to pay a much higher PPS for these shares but the market appeared to have lost interest even though internally the company forges ahead building its intellectual property portfolio.
Today we learn there is now an LOI with Qenta. This company is getting it done and management has consistently been transparent with shareholders. This is a good company. But now.
thv

PPS is rising, accumulation rising steadily for a number of consecutive months, independent reviews of the concept and related hardware.

Seems the efforts to educate potential victims would be more fruitful elsewhere, no? Worse, there are a couple of posters who take insulting others to thoroughly pointless (at least from an intellectial point of view) level. Ad naus, no less. Is there any reason said posters...assuming nominal cranial function, might be permitted to carry on? Merely possessing some alleged " right" to do so does not proportionally rationalize/ support a "need" like this.
Cannot wait to learn what response might be in store. Always interested in hearing the point of view of others. Exciting!

Admittedly, there are ways to make money in the otc I know little about, let alone use. I have been " in" BLFR since last year . At times, I have liquidated my entire position only to re-acquire it and then some. It has been nearly impossible for me to lose money with it. I am cautious, yes, but my humble , calculated risks do not disappoint and now, the best appears to be on the way... close at hand.
As long as there are greedy people out to make a quick buck at the expense of others, it would appear an investment strategy built to exploit the crappiest behaviour of investors will not ley me down, even if the company does not meetcits eoy goals.

I live for the day when the very hard work done by selfless, hard-working employees of good companies can once again be rewarded by share values that investors with true integrity would never dare mess with. People who do this hard work of building a company deserve to be able to buy the food they provide their families and community. They deserve to be able to build that college fund for their children. They deserve the philanthropic ability to help uplift others. Why do so many feel if they can retain their anonymity ( thereby not trashing their stockpile of social currency) that treating the best of their fellow men so very badly should be done at all ?

Most of even such creeps of slighy less intelligence understand treating others in this way will always come back to damage themselves, their legacy or their loved ones. There is SO much more good in store whenever a person acts for the benefit of others first, for themselves later. It usually seems more instinctive, does it not, to help others first?

Forgive my rant. It feels like there are so many truly good people here on this board. I just wanted to feel understood for a moment. Keeps me sane...I think. We are lucky to have BLFR in our crosshairs. My best to all here....Saints, sinners, pros, beginners....losers, winners...those who sometimes share their dinners.

thv

Man, I am more bullish on this company than ever. They're continuing to do things right. Some mighty few have been able to drive the price beyond wickedly low and as we have seen in the past, when it does run it does so with power. What seems different lately is that there are more buyers.....longer term.... for their much- needed technology asnd now that the defense industry is starting to take a shine to it, the catalysts will manifest more quickly and vigorously. It is already digging deep roots into a very cash- rich sector of banking. IDAI is on its way.

For the newbies who have been hanging on since Christmas, this ...THIS Is how it gets done. Quality management with no bS, mgmt doing all the hard work quietly behind the scenes and shutting up properly until the ducks are all in line. Look for companies that are run like this one. (Now, bear in mund some profit-taking will come in to play among other things like shorting, optioning, etc., it'll be ok.
Study the chart reactions to key events over the last 18 months. Astute investors will learn much.

To all who applied that preciously rare virtue of patience, congrats to all. I could not check in until well after close of mkt yesterday, but what a moment when i started to learn what BLFR has been up to in the PR. Damn!

There are some great people who post here. its a great group. i thank all of you and I appreciate you.

thv

I' M not interested in doing your homework for you. You just keep being you. it suits you best! Just run with your assumption.

Amazing, simply amazing.

I have zero interest in debating any of this with people who deny facts just because they can post as if they have knowledge on the subject. Huge waste of time. Enjoy the bliss that is absolute denial. (Did someone actually assert that nuclear energy was the last step forward in energy production? Wowsers!!!)

Ah, a reliable source speaks.........lol

I quickly skimmed the otcmarket's list of their filings and do not find evidence of any late filing notices. This is another example of evidence in support of responsible management. FWIW, the accumulation line looks about perfect.

thv

RS21. I say good on you. You do not blindly follow the useless dogma of those who simply drift aimlessly through life nestled warmly inside their own fuzzy heads . Technology has been moving forward for quite some time now at an ever increasing rate. Much that once once deemed impossible (wireless radio, flameless light, over-unity energy, even 24/7 convenience stores) are now reality.
Overunity, for those seeking knowledge, does not mean perpetual energy. Over-unity does not "create" energy from nothing. The energy, the "over" part , still must be harvested and/or transduced from some source. These devices exploit nature in a clever , and sometimes, unexpected way. Even in the deep nothing of the vacuum of space energy abounds in phenomenal amounts.
The science behind the HES system has been known for many decades. Refining the concept to use the energy of nature took much time, much disappointment and setback, but tenacity won the day without violating laws of nature.

It takes a creative mind and a whole lot of experimentation, to break new ground. the technology our grandchildren will enjoy will make ours look like that of the frontier days

Look, people have all kinds of lousy reasons for taking bad actions or for making awful decisions...sometimes even emergencies circumvent priority-driven strategies, eh?

You'll go bonkers trying to acertain the motives of others.
Just stick to your plan as best you know how.

We are all here to learn. Some learn better than others. While others never seem to learn at all. Still others have the crappiest luck one can imagine, eh?
thv

You dont read much on this subject, clearly. You'd be embarased to see how much you have missed in recent times on this subject.

HA ha ha ha ha..

Poor Circus Clowin.

Foiled, er, failed...again.

thv

Why? Because it functions. Saying that it does not does not change the fact that it does, but hey, you knew that long ago. The question then becomes about the motives of some here to deny the fact that it works.

Now, when a fact has been established, why does a person continue to deny it? This is a psychological/behavioral question unrelated to the device being discussed, but to the person(s) with said issues. The generator works and continues to be refined.

GLTA

thv

Sorry, but over unity devices exist and function , and before you ask, I have no interest in debating that fact with anyone, especially thosr who lack sufficient education on the matter.

thv

PC, I'm sorry. Your post makes it painfully clear you do not understand the basic science behind the design. Ballsy of you to post as if you do. We can talk after you have gotten a bit more up to speed on how this works.

best of luck to you

thv

I researched the suit. it appears to ve a bogus suit, never even properly filed, let alone prosecuted.

Curious.. do you know the allegation of the suit?
Also, does the comany actually have any clients? Seems like they are very hard to find.