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I rest my case
Correction on the buy, on second thought this might be the start of the Swan Song.
And I don't think the "bashers" tried to drive this sub penny honda so it can be loaded up, this company is on auto pilot, doesn't need to be driven anywhere, jeez you just found it a few days ago, you won't find any info that hasn't been found, no insight, and every two months a different fairy tale is told to try and pop it (guess who sells when the regulars buy) and ya got posts about it on several boards, they could have used that enthusiasm a year or so ago
GL and load up, if we are wrong than there will be several wealthy HJOE holders here in the future.
And it will pop back to a penny, so when it does we know it will, we can save the second coming posts, it will be only a short stay
Wow, that was quick. Whats the prediction for the January numbers Lux.
Is this part of the schooling me lesson we have bantered about since .25 cents.
Toxic debt, sub par product, brutal PR (and representation), and evasive management.
Its unhealthy to say all negative things so on the plus side::
That was great FOOTBALL speech by Mr Veal almost had me wanting to throw the pads back on and run out there, but I realized the reason my college coach doesn't ring the bell to open the stock market, and Veal isn't calling in plays from the booth. Self explanatory.
Irony is, now I think its a BUY, so buy I shall, we are HJOE team mates again. GO HJOE !!!
There are some peeps new to the dance, the Wal-Mart attempt with HJOE hangover fizzled quickly also, these ideas honda have already stepped up to the plate, the fundables attempt was a flop, it didn't work and the colorful ad regarding the Japan deal that reignited the faith, all you gotta do is check----nothing
But than along came Larry drink- people clamped on to that, historically this is a proverbial carrot on a string to keep the donkey walking.
Who knows maybe the Larry Energy angle gives it one more kick at the can, I guess it's possible, but you mentioned for James to be patient, there are people here sitting back patient, patiently watching it drop, if anything the investors have shown to be loyal, and patient in their trust of management, and their trust in some people in the business with the info they post, I ran out of patience,
GL at .01 or lower throwing a grand in could make ya some spending money, if ya know to get out before.02
Bright side though is you joining in and being a part of the IHUB HJOE's, it's a close knit group of people sharing their thoughts in a supportive friendly forum environment and we are getting Tshirts made. You get the members secret ring if your here more than 2 yrs.
Translation:
Last numbers blew; but that was due to money/ unforseen situations popping up,the distributers were not doing a good job, creditors calling, and a lawsuit or two.
But several posters were on the wait till Nov #'s, numerous claims of this next quarter will show you whats going on, etc (that was the chant when people were questioning things on the board, wait till Nov)
Now the numbers are gonna blow because of soft launches, and the billing cycle ?, (but wait till the January #'s)
Veals speech about footbal, fourth quarter, games not over, play hard, give it a 110% was as someone stated excellent, and yes it was, it was the same speech given by everyfootball coach in the nation in the dressing room every year, unless now someone is gonna say HJOE bought an NFL team.
As for the new poster (welcome) stating the way HJOE did this on the up and up through financing and avoiding toxic debt, your not reading the paperwork correctly, everything about the finance situation is toxic.
Gotta love the never going below a penny vow, I think that might be coming up again sooner than you would like
somebody at your brokers is trying to save you some money maybe
Just curious but may I ask what has changed in under 48 hrs that has changed your opinion from this company being "way of the future" to todays, maight bail on them company.
This is 'almost' amusing, WTF ?
I officially have no idea now how bios should be played.
I feel kind of stupid now, had I went down 3 posts I would have read the approval PR
Congrats to those who held
830 am conference call? That doesn't sound promising in the am b4 open
Usually far announces good news
If you definitely want out before FDA tomm, or close today, I wouldn't hold it past 330.
I have a feeling that the run will be after FDA decision ( if approved ) people taking a little caution so I can't see the price running, if it runs b4 and gets timetable/ or bad news, yr done
Good Luck
We have it on good authority that any day now new money is coming, so hold on.
Where did u see that?
They said that about Pee Wee's Playhouse and Teletubbies.
They became hugely successful until PeeWee got caught wanting in a theatre and two of the teletubbies quit and are working the opium district in Thailand.
Nd what. Happened yo the post about Lowe's and sandpaper story?
Pretend I said " Screen door on a submarine" instead of hockey stick in Ecadour" I now know how penny stocks survive, thank you for that
Before Ya get all Sherlock Holmes on me Hz I put the word field in my reply just caught still not hockey sticks, they are floor hockey, different beast than ice hockey
That was amusing, said tongue and cheek, I could have said
"Testing a screen door on a submarine" would that have been easier to understand the context?
Technically your years of research had you research something meant as a quip to show a parallel, I'm guessing these years of great skills aren't panning out to well if you actually think posting of a Ecuadorean field hockey team, slam dunks a point, I'm even more amused by you now.
Those weren't hockey sticks either, they were field hockey, , good luck in avoiding the .01 level before close, I'm rooting for you.
With a few minor differences. Yes it is.
Unfortunately it's SodaStream, carbonate your own soft drinks, sports drinks,at home, just need the syrup and some CO2, for half the price it gives you that fizzy bubbly refreshing feeling everyone one likes, works well (makes a nice lemon with gin drink) I have one. Highly recommend it.Was already being sold elsewhere, and had legitimate sales.
That article was from 2012, when it hit the press guess what it's share price went up.......26%.....to.....$36.90,
That would mean ballpark they were mid $20's prior, ( I'm guessing WalMart already knew it was a big seller, You don't test release a product to 2900 stores, they were pretty sure it sold. That's an addition not a test.
THEY chose WalMart, WalMart wasn't giving them at test run, they wanted them on board. Good for both companies..win-win.
There isn't much of a chance it ends as a win-win with HJOE hangover/energy drinks.
HJOE is how big? And is sales are proven? It's been around and is a successful company?.
Did you check what the pps has been with SODA in the last 5yrs?
Did you even read that before you linked it?
You linked a 2 yr old article for a completely different product, diff market size, already trading on a major index ,
How does this have anything to do with HJOE and a test market?
Grasping for anything about now.
Does article say in WalMart for test sales NO, is it a soft launch ? NO, is it a debt ridden,almost bankrupt company that came back from the brink of triple zero's ?NO ..what does this article have to do with anything other than they said WalMart?
SIDE bar:
Article has the names of the reporters that researched the deal and wrote the article on it, That's a press release..
It doesn't have the words ACCESWIRED or MARKETWIRED ,(or sent from MVales BlackBerry)
Unless that was posted as a lighthearted joke and I mis interpreted it,
I was gonna use New Guinea as the hockey stick test site, would you have been able to find hockey sticks there?
I don't even know what to say to that,,nice find I guess.
I must say you finding a Facebook page with a field Hockey team in Ecadour, well done.
Now if you had of put that time into doing DD on HJOE we wouldn't be sharing these memories.
I couldn't what kind of sticks they were using, but they look good.
Walmart tests by putting a new product in certain stores for a time frame, than make their decisions,
Walmart doesn't care if Larry drink sells like cajun hotcakes in a gas station out side of Louisiana or a 7-11 in Boise Idaho. How would any sales like that influence a national chains decision, be about as smart as doing market research on hockey stick sales in Ecuador
They test in-store, same sales/time test they gave the other product in certain Walmarts, the hangover one we can't discuss, the one that isn't in any Walmarts.
This data hunt buys time for next next data hunt info, than the next until someone figures that out and the next fairy tale gets read out to you.
That would be a safe assumption,
I live in my dad's basement.
I hope it pops for you jd.
And I know it shows up on financial pages like yahoo etc. Go to the site, consider them a middle man HJOE posts on those other great DD venues such as FB and twitter for free. People such as myself see most of them as typical penny float BS, but it seems to do the job on some folks.
Now to really legit it up and prove to people (just read the board, it works) they put out something from the desk of Mr Veal it requires no looking into any statements, financials can be whatever they type along with all the great plans they are doing, they email that to ACCESSWIRE and for a fee ACCESSWIRE has contracts with various companies such as YAHOO etc they pay to have the long winded nothing more than an email, posted on the Yahoo pages etc (whom than cover themselves with the disclaimers making sure they are in no way accountable for any of it when the BS is found out, point being, seems it got you all back in a happy go HJOE mood, Im glad, don't put anything into the release,has HJOE has been so strait forward with you all, think this getting put out coincides with the sub zero free fall and two thousand emails a day they are getting from the same ten people on this board, print, send, print and your happy , circle of penny life, hakuna matada
Be careful of anything that says from the desk of, if you read it in the times, might have more validity, hang in there.
Stating vaccine is no longer a solution is an attention grabber.
And from a "first time" caller.
where in that article that you "heard" on the radio does it states " vaccine no longer-solution"
Starters it never was a " solution", I've never heard nor read of a solution yet, hence testing.
It states the virus is mutating, just like any virus out there mutates, your post is pure fear mongering.
If we own HJOE when it breaks the legendary less than a cent club, do we get a company hat, or maybe an autographed shot bottle ?
You realize that ACCESWIRED is an internet company that posts for a fee company news. This isn't a 'press release" this a PAID service where it states very clearly they take no responsibility on the information provided
I could email them my grocery list with a cheque and that gets put on a ACCESWIRED or Marketwired web site. No facts,numbers, statements in these have been done by any analysts, or any researchers, it's a watch the dummies load up again game., used by penny stock companies in dire need of a boost, banking on the fact some investors are so glazed over they load more, keeps them out of 000 land (for a week) example: 10 million bottle deal in Japan PR, never heard of it again, yet got some people all excited and buying
here's opinion, no bash, no pump,quick opinion/eval from someone around HJOE for a while.
Yes, their is reference to the past ( my faith in that's was than this is now, is jaded when than and now my money is involved)
-No PR-that's not new behaviour, there is 3 yrs of posts on this board hammering on this topic That can be a acronym (3yrsoP)-3 years of posts.
-Don't inform investors.....and our defended on board as, 'they know what they are doing wait for the big picture'(3yrsoP)
-they had the first big advertisement chance with the release and build up of a worldwide movie trilogy, did they use that to make sales,promote,attract money investors-NOPE,,,we got mismanaged,misquoted,mislead, and watched the price bottom out, that's all there to see, huge debt, outrageous funding debt, production/delivery issues whilst destroying the pps, that's all there (3yrsoP)-(that doesn't mean 3yrs of my posts, it's everyone that have come gone come back and left again) the exact complaints that are posted now.
Have they lied? Absolutely.
Have they shown concern for investor issues, Nope.
So now they pay to use Larry as a sales platform, gimmick if you may to boost the awareness, get it known.
(Déjà Vue didn't work doing the same thing using the Hangover movie,and Warner ?, huge debt no sales 3000% stock price decline.......toxic debt! lawsuits so they still had to pay to use the Hangover name etc etc
..........Now we pat Larry, to use him on a platform to hopefully rejunivate things, and yes we PAY him every three months regardless, if we do sell anything, we give Larry's Foundation a price for each bottle sold, we also take a cut from each bottle sold to give to the executives because of their sacrifice of the permeate paycheck, .
-new gimmick, new bottle, new juice, except more payments, more shaving off any bottle sold, more debt, the same bad management group and the same shithappening again, let's be honest any true DD done on this prior to buying would not have instilled confidence in someone who knows how to read it, pure simple lottery play, it can't be avoided it is going triple zero direction
Similar to the trust we put into them with the hangover shot, or is that called a 3yr soft launch?
ANyone have some insight as to why it's at this price? Doubt about it.
Did I miss a PR or other news that's causing the price decline this close?
What did you base your expectations on with this company?
This isn't new, they did the same thing prior, they haven't changed anything, they have no credibility (thats the past though right?)
Im speechless that people can be surprised.
The regulars though will come out with some utterly ridicoulous excuse, with big news next week, yada yada yada
It is almost impossible without massive changes and restructuring, finance overhauls and a huge reverse split and a sellable product that this company will ever see .045 again (and thats being merciful giving it a .045 range)
Check FB a couple more photos with some pallets and a guy walking by that they asked to hold a shot bottle to get a picture of, will make everything ok.
You don't like the message but if ya had to bet, whom do you think has been giving more of a truthful message, the guys pumping from .40 down, or the guys pointing out everything wrong or questionable from .30 down (not hard to figure out-next week you can load up again, under .01, and as usual when you don't like the message, have it removed
Did miss something about OREX in the news ?
Your making fun of us Investorholm, thats not very team like.
But since our made up points based on no facts have been saying the same thing for well over 16 months (which way has the stock went?), congrats are in order , because if I am not mistaken I think that HJOE did hit its lowest pps in a few years today, perhaps MNBC could enlighten you on what it means when you call them.
(on the amusing side-do you think the true numbers of this have ever been given yet, it's dead, but you may get an .04 pop, take advantage of that would be my uneducated suggestion)
I know, I know, don't know nothing, don't understand the market, we don't use facts, twist half truths etc etc, I guess the proof at this point could be in the pudding (never understood what that meant to be honest), how about the proof could be in the share price, thats works a little better I guess.
Here the go TEAM part, big news coming, bashers are buying, watch FB, ____-____, feel free to insert any I missed
Investorholm you mention advice and how touching it is for us to care, here's an attempt at advice from the early HJOE board days (just for fun, I won't say what the ops was than either)
****from Aug 2012*****
dking, I hope ALL remember the "only what you can lose" theory when buying this company.
Earlier post said you were trying to scrape together some for more shares, and a week ago you mentioned that your driving a nine yr old truck, absolutely nothing wrong with that. Everybody wants that to be in ground floor of the 10 bagger, leave enough $ to keep hitting the links with your buddy's, (I hope this is one time I will eat crow and have to hear "i told you it would be huge) .
I seriously think that the optimism, loyalty, enthusiasm your putting into HJOE is amazing this company really should have you promoting ground level, I'm serious I would,I stumbled on this, read the board and it was your posts that had me take a look at things, it is refreshing to see this excitement I hope it pans out for everyone, personally I think its a unique take on niche product, the bottles would sell just for the photos on them. I am not 100% certain but the idea of selling in bars has a lot of stipulations in Canada, unsure if its easier to get in to US pubs)
For it to go, they need it to stay get to Nas, that is what I think may be costly to investors, I bought some just for a conversation starter, good luck to all, I hope there isn't any big burns with this, "what you can lose" thats the phrase that the important one to keep in the forefront (another good one is "your sure its not loaded" phrase, nothing to do with stocks but its good to remember
Why not just link or paste this email you have now, it may help explain to us all whats going on, without getting spam mail from the sec everyday.
Doesn't the sec post on FB? They should its very informative
C'mon Steve, if you weren't convinced a month ago and I think you still take twitter and FB as actual investment tools, you won't sell.
If your invested a good chunk of coin than you think that this is gonna be 1.00 stock and you will retire so you won't sell
If you haven't invest much into than for a fews hundred what would the point of you sling be.
But, please feel free to point out to me which facts that you would like me to provide some backing for? Which things that I have said that are lies? I have no issue being called on something, nor have I ever had a post of someones removed(believe me I have gotten quite a few from someone that didn't throw their replies on the board, Id like to cut and paste them for you, and if you told your fan and friends(like the other guy who gave it a firm double by the end of Aug. told relatives) I don't think you can tell them, pretty sure they don't want to hear from ya at this point (give them time, they will get over it, but give it time to scab over, they will forgive)
Good points Lux, Buffalo Bob's or Bill,s or whatever this place is called with the ostrich parts, does sell the product, LTCG Gitrdone Energy.
The shelf space and counter part though doesn't really come into play when it's an internet order distributor.
One thing though confuses me me, IS this shot not using the ALL natural healthy caffeine free plug as a BIG selling point? I am pretty sure that is one of the main points that has been hammered home on this point, usually you leading that pack.....but....your post now says
The consumer don't know who or what is placing on the shelf or what items they even sell.
Lux it's impossible not to know what this particular distributor sells, it's called BIG GAME GOODIES EXOTIC MEATS WITHOUT THE HUNTING, which personally sounds tasty, , and the PETA shirts I find amusing, not really what I would like my charity energy drink promoted on, I'm guessing being affiliated with ostrich,alligator snacks mocking PETA is a smart business plan? ( you're right I don't understand the bev world
The average consumer picking this up don't know if its caffeine free or not unless they read the small print some consumers will a great majority won't but that don't matter. The caffeine free works for the buyers who are now scared as hell to be sued if someone dies from using a product with to much caffeine its the stores wanting more healthy choices for consumers and a certain segment of consumers want no caffeine. As the lawyers and attorney generals of lots of states are
Now that comment my friend, the productIf the avg. consumer don't know whether it's caffeine free or not unless they read the small print, your insinuating they are stupid? Considering HJOE hangover flopped and at this rate I have a feeling if this product starts to cause Larry unwanted attention it will flop, the avg consumer is smarter than you give them credit for, could be why no major investor(s) are jumping on board (they are smart to)
I still think calling PETA a bunch of radio nut jobs, and also being a Distributor of Larry the Cable Guys charity foundation Energy Drink, technically as a distributor aren't you also supposed to be a positive ambassador of the product? Calling PETA Nut Jobs sounds a little negative, no one likes being called a nut job. isn't a great idea Lux, Larry has rom being toast until they got a second chance with Larryno invested money into this, they pay him regardless and if anything ever sells his charity benefits, his charity may not think risk with negative press for Larry Foundation isn't worth the reward..Fortunately I don't think PETA will know,
For the last time I have no idea about anything that transpired with HJOE going public, never even heard of the product.
Actually thought they had a chance with the opportunity to promo along with the world premier of the 3rd Hangover movie, stupid decisions, stupid PR's ( even the true ones), screwing up financing, shall I keep going? That's where my involvement began, I got out , but contued to follow and watch the same crap continue, throw in your posts and claims that never happened, it's good reading.
I'm unsure as to what you have ever schooled me on?
And doubly baffled by myself and others being "schooled" by HJOE ? You know it's went from from .30ish to a week or two away from below .01 now hovering below .02, that is an odd example of being schooled, unless you mean the experience was a good lesson in cutting losses and getting out
Steve that is another excellent find and does show the quality distributors that are being courted by the Management group.
The idea of going nationwide is truly being given a ,ALL NATURAL head start for the consumer target group ( which Lux has continually pointed out the ridiculous idea of mine that this is kinda pigeon holed towards redneck chubby.guys who don't give a rats ass about caffeine)
In the EAT EXOTIC game without Hunting section
I noticed that amongst the Alligator,,Ostrich,and Kangaroo Jerky Section that this did seem to be the only available Energy Drink that was All Natural caffeine.
the non believers such as myself see, this is the only energy drink available with this company.
They chose Larry Energy over 5hr,Monster,Red Bull, well done, I'm a believer now that we are gonna make some money.
I think the whole section of PETA shirts, hats key chains. Which I personally find funny as heck.
Might put Larry out of mainstream healthy choice area back into the beer belly who cares caffeine crowd.
Don't see to many people wandering around wearing
PETA.......people, eating tasty animals, with an Alligator on the back,"best meat in the tail" Tshirts around.
In closing Thank You Steve I ordered a box of Tshirts, some Hawain Aligator smoked tenders, I'll be giving it out at the local soccer moms get together.
Great marketing....Lux Larry has a target crowd, ((prob best not to be sold in stores that animal loving people throw paint on
Info from Twitter and FB, not really what i would call great sources, but it seems to keep you all , how about finding info from other sources, and not the usual ones HJOE uses (market wired etc, fine print absolves marketwise,,,has been compensated, paid to publish....blah blah......