The email I got from RB said that I was "harrassing" somebody or another. Now when did I ever harrass anybody? I reckon the truth is considered harrassment in some circles.

I do note that Mr. M. Mon Soon posted that he was TOSing me, just before I got the notice from RB, and shortly thereafter, I could post nothing further there.

But no conspiracy, nosireebob. Never!! CAW!!

Good thing it was not mental telepathy! He contradicts himself quite often, and lacks the wit to keep his stories straight. But we can help him!! CAW!!

First, we left the other board so we could escape the wrath that is descending upon the head of Mr L. Morovan. Then we were booted as a result of an investigation by RB that we are out to help an un-named CEO of a rival company.

What next? CAW!! Illuminati indeed!!

To be fair, though, here is another article that quotes Dr. Marsteller.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/12/8/135444.shtml

Here, the good doctor lectures about counterfiet medicines. They did not publish any data upon which the good Doctor no doubt relied upon in making his statements.

Strangely enough, nor did he mention the "Valimed Solution."

Actually, over the years, I have seen quite a few emails put out by some LONGs. I expect that Mr. R. Apple has quite a few, too. Not to mention Mr. L. Morovwn.

Nuff said for now. CAW!!

I do believe that Dr. Marsteller is an employee or consultant to CDEX. Can it be that he may have put a bit of a shine on that statement? As I recall, the Christians put out some terrific statements re ELF a few MOONs back.. or was that years? CAW!!

They never did, though, volunteer to take one into a live mine field. Double CAW!!

Troble is, Whitey, that those "SWAGS" as "trite and hackneyed"
as they may be, are Spot on at least 90% of the time.

A record that you do not come close to matching, even when you try to post something besides the utter nonsense that you usually post. CAW!!

REALLY spot on Sandy!! You have a talent far beyond mine to get at the heart of the matter!!

That post is just more smoke screen to avoid that question that you lack the cheek, nerve, etc, to answer. CAW!!

You chose the alias, Whitey, not me. That alias is inherently racist, and xenophobic. Despite my alias, I am a CELTic "white man". An accident of birth, surely, even though a happy one. I take great pride in being a SCOT.

The powers that be here on IHUB is certainly capable of determining what is racist/xenophobic and what is not. I would abide by their tastes, if they get involved.

CAW!! Are you saying that you get no information from emails, Whitey? CAW!! That email underground that you are a part of has been extreeeeemely active!!

ANyway, I knew that you would try to lay down a smoke-screen to avoid answering the question that I put to you. CAW!!

Would you care to name the Companie(s) that are behind this alleged organization "cabel" of "bashers", Whitey?

Now it can be argued (and no doubt WILL be) that I know nothing, that CDEX may have products out there even now being sold like hotcakes, etc. But people have a right to self-delusion, and also to hype to their heart's content.

It is true that I know nothing other than what I have gotten from the forums and websites, and a few emails. It is also true that I have applied a BS filter to much of what I have read, and there is some slight chance that my BS filter is wrongly configured to an extent.

But my objectivity is not clouded by any stock ownership nor any desire to TRADE in the stock.

And more and more "LONGs" have been, and/or are beginning, to sound a lot like me.

None can deny that me and a few others were spot on re LOCH. are we spot on re CDEX?? CAW!!!!

No money to amount to anything has been made in trading in and out of CDEX since the big jump in November last. That makes the TRADERS unhappy.

But there is no reason why the CDEX BOD should concern themselves with the TRADERS. They will furnish volume, and briefly run the SP up and then quickly sell, causing the SP to fall back down. This can attract badly unwanted attention from the SEC.

Only the quick can make a profit. Not much chance for the insiders to join in the dump.

The MM, which is under the control of SOMEONE obviously intends to try to hold the SP in the neighborhood of where it now is. On the gray market, they can do that, since they can just refuse to process orders that tend to pressure them outside their desired parameters.

They can increase spread to discourage buys. They can decrease spread to encourage buys. ETC.

People have shown a willingness to buy at the present SP, the volume is small, but relatively steady. Going on the OTCBB, the CDEX BOD would lose all control of the MM, who are obliged to trade at the market.

Please note that ART is at last right about something! He predicts that CDEX will not go on the OTCBB before July 2005.

Make that before July 2006, ART, and you will be a real Gypsy!!

The question is, why should CDEX go on the OTCBB when they already have a market as such for their stock through the CEXI gray market thing?

They have no product for sale yet, just a few valimeds out under "test" at some friendly hospitals.

Going on the OTCBB is premature, and any SP increases would be based on some highly risky specualtion, or P&D. Not a desirable outcome for a stock that contends that they are striving for respectability.

The BOD, employees and PP holders can sell their stock on the Gray market, provided that they do not try to dump them all at once, but feed them in gradually, they can get from a buck thirty to a buck fifty for their shares.

The LOCH?CDEX shareholders can do likewise, of course, but for a large number of them, maybe most, their basis per share is much higher than what the gray market can yield. But in truth, they are contributing nothing to the company, ergo no reason why the company CEO should be concerned in the least about them.

They are a nuisance, but a minor one. They clamor for attention, which is rarely forthcoming.

MP is a real stoic when it comes to caring about the yelling and criticism coming at him for that quarter.

Nope Sassy, I beat him here by over a year. Of course, he was on earlier under another alias.

Because of dirty tricks pulled on RIO's forum, I am CROW. Not the alias that I used on another forum. BTW, here, I am CROW. Himanez is kaput.

But you can still refer to me as Himey if you wish.

Yep.. a remarkable show of sheer intestinal fortitude!! Stk would tie him in many knots.

It has been posted several times just what vocation Stk has. What he does for a living. Evidently, the Guud Cap missed those posts, or chooses to believe that he has the forum to himself, and is thus safe.

Because of tenuous similarities between what CDEX is allegedly engaged in as research and development, and what STK has posted comments on here and there, the CAP has decided to try to discredit what stk has said re LOCH/CDEX as a possible conflict of interest.

Or at least, I gather thats what he is up to. Using sly innuendo.

But he has been busily taking on some people that I would certainly hesitate to tackle. Stk and DDMAN are not lightweights.

Things are getting tough when to read a post, one has to put up with "OOPs" most of the time, and on the "elite" board all one gets most of the time is ">".

And CAP has to dig way back into the past to find posts to ask for obvious answers to. Questions that he already knows the answers to no doubt.

And of the rest, only "Whitey" has the nerve to follow the OUSTed to the IHUB and post utter nonsense. But then, Nonsense is his forte. CAw!!

CAW!! Mediocrity is too tame a word!! CAW!

What a sorry state of affairs the "other boards" have become.

The technical problems are horrendous, and most posts are jokes. On the "elite" one, all they can post is happy birthday to the keeper of the mediocrity. CAW!!

LOL!! The Crow is thinking that you must have slipped a cog or three. But never mind. As soon as the war is over, repair parts will become available. CAW!!

Actually, I feel relief. I no longer feel any obligation, (even though self imposed from way back in 2000) to post the truth there as I see it.

Those boards were getting duller every day. Nobody much to engage in meaningful debate. Not much fun at all any more, nor any sense of accomplishment after a session. Just BLAH!!

Evidentally, he was not really thinking. There were many LOCH
posters that also posted on BPRG. Including Moonie and Sassy.

And thousands of companies and universities involved in R&D using flourescence. Not just BPRG.

The Gude Cap, I feel sure, knows that what he is hinting amounts to libel.. actually accusing Muncaster of a crime.

I doubt very much that Barry will overlook it. He does not overlook much.

Those like Raider, hopping in with an amen statement, are just helping make the case, if Muncaster decides to persue it.

For those that are saddened, as are most, by the event of today.. remember that she has been released from her earthly bonds, and gone on to whatever lies beyond this vale of tears.

The "Greatest One" is merciful. The "Greatest One" will lead her gently across the great dark valley, to peaceful meadows and eternal light. She will sing again, and know happiness.

Whatever lies beyond is infinitely better for her than that hospice in Pinellas Fl.

While we are sad, let us also rejoice for her, as we offer condolences to her family and to those worldwide who also feel the loss.

For those that have wished for HIMANEZ to go away I got a message that he can no longer can post you know where.

Congratulations to those that wished for him to fade away, and he tells me that he will shed no tears if you won't. LOL!!

That board has become strictly Dullsville. He says tell you hasta la vista, sayonara, bye now and all that Rot. CAW!!

FOR RAIDERMAN

Dearest raiderman:

It seems you feel that capnmike has made a good case "explaining" DDMan's interest in loch/cdex, as well as for the presence of so-called bashers on the loch thread.

Is it fair to say that you agree with his position? It would appear so from your "explanation" to kires17.

What would happen if DDMan decided to press charges of libel against dagoodcapn? Would you be included?

I strongly encourage you to urge dagudecapn to reconsider his MO. It is well known that he is a master researcher of everything but relevant information, but he is slitting his own throat.

In truth, the only question to ask is: has the capn gone absolutely stark raving mad? Is he running buck naked in the streets yelling "I've got it, I've got it ! ! ! !" ?

You see, several posters on both this board and the sacrosanct true loch long board know exactly why DDMan developed an interest in Loch Harris. Despite what capnmike would have you and others believe, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the voluminous "research" he has "uncovered."

DYOR. Start by asking capndagude to dig through some of the long-buried posts by Thomas Huzella, before he thought a Valentine's Day surprise might be fun.

Bonne nuit et bonne chance.

a Xenophora

I hope that CDEX is a howling success. But not as a P&D, hawking BS and hot air.

You made an answer to my post, but you did not address my statements. Why is that?

CAW!! Yep. CAW!!

D'ye 'spose somebody will copy it on yet another board?? CAW!!

And why does THAT encourage you, Whitey? Surely you know that the CEXI market is under the total control of the MM running it.

They set the price, take it or leave it. If buying pressure comes, they raise the spread that they charge, thus the price. If selling pressure comes, they drop the price per share that they will pay. Or simply refuse to process any orders.

If they take a notion to close it down completely, they can do so w/o notice. So there is nothing about the SP that is encouraging, nor discouraging. It simply is what it is.

So did I write a short article on the act. So what? All you have to do is go to google, and find the entire act written out. Extract what you want to comment about, and fire away.

Knubel or however it is spelled just happens to be employed nearby by one of the numerous organizations set up to sell "management" concepts to companies and Government. Training courses. Much like TQM or lots of others that have come and gone over the years.

He is not an employee of CDEX. He is said to be a member of the BOD. As such, he has no duties except to attend board meetings, if and when they are called.

He is not the CDEX CFO. MP acts as his own CFO. His own words.

Danny, being "civil" has its place. But I lack the patience to be all that sweet when someone sets out to do a con on me.

Sorry.

As I posted, you are a decent chap, one that lost a bundle on LOCH. I wish I could tell you that MP will eventually get you your money back, and maybe even a profit. But I cannot truthfully do that. I always tell the truth as I see it on the serious and important things.

Congratulations on your Grand-daughter.

That is what I meant. You have the talent to be patient and tolerate less than honest posts and just hang tough and stick to the facts that you have ferreted out from a big load of worthless trivia.

Then you have the integrity to tell the truth as you have found it.

I just read a board where they made incredible excuses for the lies and deception of a CEO who had stated that the ELF
worked perfectly and then abandoned it. Abandoned it but did not state the truth. This CEO, MP, merely stated that he has "shelved it".

This CEO did not come clean, and tell the truth that it worked well in the LAB, but did not cut the mustard in the field. Development money down the drain.

This CEO had a self-serving reason for lack of candor. But his omission from being fully truthful does not serve the people that had invested well. A lot of them still hold to the hope that he will ressurrect the UXO projects down the road.

Now to be fair, CROW did express doubts that CDEX would be registered. CROW might have under-estimated the tenacity of the CEO in that respect. He finally, after about a year trying, did get an SB-2 approved. He seemed anxious somewhat to mollify his PP holders.

After all, that is his only source of income re CDEX. With the exception of a few dollars here and there.

Doubtless, he has income from other sources. But he has not mentioned them. He is not much of a "mentioner". At least, not since he quit posting on a board as P4613.

To see CROWs comments re the possibilty of CDEX shares being distributed, see post # 1857 on the IHUB LOCH HARRIS board.

Unlike another board I could mention, POSTS ARE ARCHIVED here. Except maybe the deleted ones.

I AM NOT SURE that the posts of OUSTed members are archived.

I know of two members that tusseled with me before and were OUSTed. I will check and see. Yep!! I checked, those two fellow's post's ARE archived!

You have talent, Mr R. Apple. And besides, you know where a lot of bones are buried. I would think that Whitey would be more careful, but apparently he cannot resist taking you on.

Mr Whitey..

Now where did Mr. Crow predict all that? LOL!!

Sandy..yes not a very credible job of holding down his side on the part of Whitey. He had no leg to stand on, of course, but that did not stop him from pontificating.

RA beat him hollow with logic and recitation of facts. He came back dodgy and did not answer any of RA's questions. Not that I saw, anyway.

My hat is off to RA. I would have never had the patience to deal with such an arrogant and condescending series of posts from Mr. Whitey. I would have just subjected Whitey to satire and ridicule, and been done with it, after a couple of the posts.

Quite a theory that Whitey has about the thirty centers. MP wanted to give the PPers a chance to average down!1 LOL!! and CAW!!

R.A. Hey, the man is right. It was a mighty big sacrifice to have to pay 30 cents a share for stock that could be sold right away for over a dollar on the CEXI market. One must bow the head in reverence to such heroics!!

Hey, after all, some got shares for unspecified "services". Just think, these heroic people had to shell out THIRTY CENTS
for their shares. Such sacrifice should receive an award for certain! CAW!!

The CROW dips a wing in salute to such brave and self-sacrificing heroes!! CAW, CAW!!

Don't expect Whitey to say anything bad about CDEX. Never Happen!! he will excuse any behaviour as the very thing the Company should do.

CAW!! I betcha you were worried sick!!

The posts are negative Danny, for precisely the reasons that you gave. Me and some others are convinced that CDEX is nothing more than a continuation of LOCH.. and the track record of CDEX so far is NOT reassuring in any way that we are wrong. There is really nothing that can truthfully be said about CDEX so far that is positive.

Speaking for myself, I do not wish to see CDEX get away with just running out the clock on the Statutes of Limitations of the LOCH wrong-doing. Not without some heat applied. So in my small way, I apply some heat, and others that know far more about the inner workings of the SCAM than I do apply more heat that never reaches these boards.

Eventually truth will prevail. Just as it did with LOCH.. If I am wrong, I will be among the first to so post when i am proven wrong by good deeds of CDEX. So far, I have seen none..
Even those that could appear to be positive are tainted by half truths and evasive PRs and web site entries. Long on hot air, devoid of useful details.

R.A.. i feel sure that if the shareholders want to inspect the books, all they have to do is ask Mister M.P. and he will immediately say "sure". Since he is also the CFO, I am sure the books are in apple pie order, and can be gone over in a jiffy.

After all, he is a sincere and Christian Gentleman, Honest and as pure as the driven snow. If he had a middle name, it would be "Integrity". I hear he totes a Bible everywhere he goes, and opens every meeting with a reading of a few verses.

Such a Fine man would NEVER have the slightest objection to
having any books he has gone over, and would immediately and truthfully and openly and honestly answer each and every question that would arise.

So there is no need of going to all the trouble of gathering proxies of about 7 and a half million shares.

Now wouldn't you agree with the above? Sure you would!! LOL!!

NOW..To answer your question..not a chance. You'd be lucky to get more than 2 million shares. Those that have a ton of shares would be afraid to risk making the man angry. So you would get a lot of shares from the smaller shareholders. Takes a lot of them to add up to anything.