Hey Gitreal. Hope all is well. haven't spoken to you since uspr. would you mind sending me a PM with your email. I don't do PM's here. I'd like to ask your advice on something.

here's the only answer that matters. it doesn't matter if leufray and co are in charge or if joe spano and co are in charge here at uspr. the stock was suspended by the sec. so after the suspension ends, uspr goes to the grey sheets.

that means no market maker can put in a quote. they can only post unsolicited buy and sell orders from customers.

that also means that absolutely NO person, company or fund will give them any money.

uspr is toast. done. kaput. over.

anybody saying anything else is just doing comedy.

kinda ironic that on the day that some of the original uspr people take control of uspr it gets suspended.

yea. but when a pink sheet stock gets suspended it goes to the grey sheets dummy! that's where stocks go to die.

you mean this john leufray?

http://www.uspr-holdings.com/from-the-ceo-november-2017/

1. he said uspr "worked diligently with our partners and advisors to bring current the company’s property rights in Mexico and develop a mining campaign to explore gold deposits on the property."

well, uspr doesn't own the rights to the property anymore and no mining campaign.

2. he listed 4 goals to accomplish in 100 days. it's been 300 days.

didn't do the first one.
didn't do the second one.
didn't do the third one.
did the fourth, but that was just to move the office closer to his house.

so you are right. enough nonsense.

all the negative stuff is easy to find.

the fact uspr lost control of the only concession they were working on is in an 8k that uspr filed with the sec.

the fact that uspr has no money, big debt, huge converts on their books, and 300 million shares outstanding are all readily available in the last financials uspr filed with the sec. unfortunately that was close to 3 years ago so uspr's current financials must be worse then whatever that last one said.

the fact that they haven't filed any 10k's or 10q's in almost 3 years is easy to figure out. just look at the date on the last 10q uspr filed.

the fact that they have had 5 to 7 new, new, new... management teams since pane was fired is also available in uspr's 8k filings with the sec.

all you have to do is check uspr's filings with the sec to know the truth.

why? jerry pane hasn't been employed at uspr for years. so whatever you have to say is an opinion. why not express that opinion here. on an investor opinion board.

and how do we know jerrypane12@gmail.com is actually the jerry pane that was fired as uspr's ceo? i could open a gmail account as jerrypane13 and say i was the former ceo.

and for the record, wasn't jerry pane the uspr ceo when they announced that fantastic plasma deal? you know, the deal that sent 300 million preferred shares to a third company ( a private company) which was owned by jerry pane and joe spano?

it just seems like more of the same here. it's just a big circle jerk.

are you freakin kidding me?? i've slammed every management of uspr since jerry pane, including jerry pane. and there's been like 7 new management teams since pane.

they all have one thing in common. none of them have ever accomplished anything with the property.

it's been over a decade and we still don't have any results for the concession they worked on for a decade (you know, the concession they no longer control), and the rest of the property (if they even control it anymore) has never had any work done on it, so...

whether the people have a vested interest is irrelevant. getting money with uspr trading (if you want to call volume of $300 a day trading) at .003 it's going to be extremely expensive to current shareholders.

uspr currently has at least 300 million outstanding. to raise even $100,00 would cost 66 million more shares. $1 million would cost 666 million shares. current shareholders will get diluted like crazy.

so, to recap. uspr has no money, big debt, and a ton of converts on their books. 300 million shares outstanding, a need for a ton of money raised, a stock price at .003 and, based on uspr's previous timeline (including time with pane as ceo) another decade to work on, yet not prove, any results.

investors have better odds at the craps table.

why?? even if these guys get put in place, uspr has no money, big debt, a ton of converts on the books, 300 million shares outstanding, and haven't filed a 10k or 10q in 2 years.

2 years of audited financials would cost between $20k and $40k. these guys would have to raise that money before they could begin to raise money to test the feasibility of mining any other part of the land.

all with the stock at .003, trading about $300 a day, and with their authorized shares maxed out.

new management, old management, what difference does it make.

irrelevant? seriously?? it's the only part of the property that uspr has done any work on at all.

they still might control the 36,400 acres (there's still no evidence they do), but they'd be back at square one. starting over.

it's been over a decade and uspr couldn't prove there was anything worth mining on the 600 acre lot. and during some of that time sheldon baer and jerry pane were there.

so if you vote now, and get new, new, new, new, new, new management, it'll be another decade before they can not be able to prove there's any gold worth mining there. wow!

uspr put out an 8k a while ago stating the mexican courts awarded the property back to the seller due to uspr's lack of payment.

a poster has stated that uspr only lost the property they were working on. that property was 600 acres. so he claims they still control 36,400 acres they've never worked on before, that he states only recently became accessible.

i'm curious as to why uspr would pay for 36,400 acres that they were not working on, that was not accessible, yet not pay for the 600 acres they were working on.

since uspr has not filed a 10q or 10k with the sec in 2 years, it's kinda hard to know definitively.

Here are some more uspr facts. so write these down-

fact
uspr has no money. they have huge debt. they have huge converts on their books and haven't filed a 10k or 10 Q in 2 years, so who knows how bad it is right now.

they already have close to, if not already, their max authorized shares outstanding (325 million). again, we don't know what they have today because they are delinquent in their filings. and for uspr to get compliant, and inform investors of their financial condition currently, it will require more money (that they don't have) and create more debt (then they already have).

reality

uspr no longer controls the only land they have ever worked on. they worked on that site for over a DECADE and never got definitive, verifiable reserve results, let alone attempted to mine anything.

so whatever management is gonna start to work on the remaining property, has no money to start, maxed out their authorized shares, and based on uspr's work on the 600 acres, gonna take another 10 years to find out if there's actually gold on the remaining 36,400 acres.

and uspr lost the 600 acre property due to lack of payment. so, if they didn't pay for the 600 acres, why would we believe they paid for the 36,400 acres?? wouldn't reasonable people pay for the property they are working on before the property they were not? you know, the property that wasn't accessible?

and why on earth should anyone contact a previous ceo of uspr regarding anything at all about the current conditions at uspr. sheldon baer can't speak for uspr.

So you loaded all your portfolios with uspr based on his recommendation. where was uspr when you loaded???

i bet it wasn't at 0.0022. my graph only goes back 5 years. he said he was an original officer of uspr. 5 years ago uspr was .20. don't know where it was when you invested.

so... you're thanking him for suggesting an investment that has lost, i don't know, 99% of your investment.

wow. i would suggest you find someone new to take investment advice from.

just sayin'.

oh, and by the way, uspr currently does not own the land the mine is on. so... why would you suggest other "do the same now" when uspr has no assets???

that's great. Take control of uspr. but, who cares.

USPR put out an 8k saying they no longer control the property that may, or may not, have gold. so, new management, old management, or the previous new, new, new, management. who cares. USPR doesn't control the land anymore.

so, get the new guys in to a company with no money, no assets, big debt, huge converts, and doesn't control the land.

Wooohooo!!!

i agree. as long as you have 4,545 shares of uspr then you have $10. Woohoo !!!!!!

how would he possibly know???? he is the former ceo of uspr. key word being former. he has nothing to do with uspr currently.

why does it matter if the assets are real. uspr put out an 8k stating the Mexican court awarded the property back to the people that sold the land to uspr due to lack of payment. so whether the assets are real, or they're not, is irrelevant.

uspr no longer controls the property.

who cares if people invested $8 million, who cares if they are solid people.

uspr has no money. big debt. no assets. a large amount of converts. and does not control the land.

gonna take more then an additional $8 million to fix this. plus, as of now, current uspr management has not stated anything that you have.

so, are you speaking on behalf of uspr? do they know this? or are you just another message board poster???

how would anyone know there's good things going on??? how would anyone know anything is going on???

the only news that uspr has put out in 2 years has been notifications of management people and/or board members resigning. or that their attorneys resigned due to lack of payment. that the mexican court awarded the rights to the property back to the seller due to uspr's lack of payment.

they did announce a lawsuit against their ex-ceo, but that was thrown out of court.

they haven't file a 10Q or 10K in almost 3 years.

they announced multiple joint ventures. then announced that all those jv's were dissolved.

the last corporate development they announced was on 10/14/2015. that's right 2015!!!!

where, oh where, are these good things??????

a. uspr has no gold. has never stated they have gold. has never produced any gold. has never even attempted to mine any gold. saying anything else is ridiculous

2. they no longer even control the land that may or may not have gold. so even if there is gold on this land, uspr does NOT own it, nor have any access to it

c. lawsuit dismissed by the court. uspr has nothing. no money. no assets. no gold. no lawsuits. (except the ones filed against them by their attorneys for non payment!!!!!)

4. uspr has been trading under .01 for 18 months. uspr has not filed a 10Q or 10K in almost 3 years.

uspr has a better chance of being delisted then of the pps going up

you know that uspr has no money, right? that they lost their lawsuit against their previous ceo? they haven't filed a 10Q or 10K in about 3 years? and they no longer control the property that allegedly has the gold on it?

so i ask you. what in the world does a chart have to do with a pink sheet company that has no money, no revenue, and no assets??

how hard is it to grasp that i'm referring to the shareholder suing pane.

why is that worthy of uspr releasing that as a pr? it has no bearing on uspr at all. in fact, the shareholder lawsuit, and the rumored second shareholder lawsuit, could potentially cost uspr whatever money they win from pane, assuming they actually win.

and how can this company go in a positive direction? even if they win their lawsuit with pane.

they currently have no money. they no longer control the land the mine is on. so even if they get money from pane, what business are they gonna have?

they have over 200 million shares outstanding, that we know about, so i don't think pane has the kinda money to return to uspr to make any difference at all, should he be forced to.

but, again, this is a lawsuit between a shareholder and pane. now there is a "rumored" second lawsuit between a shareholder and pane. uspr is not involved in these lawsuits.

if pane loses, then he owes damages to the shareholder, not uspr.

does anyone honestly believe that a shareholder that sues pane, and wins, would give that money to uspr rather then keep it themselves.

again, i ask. why are we talking about pane? he's not involved in uspr anymore. why does anything about him matter to uspr?

the answer is, it doesn't.

so, uspr. no money. doesn't control the land anymore the mine is on. seriously delinquent in their sec filing. can't pay their lawyers for the lawsuits they are involved in.

so who cares what someone else does with pane when pane isn't involved in uspr anymore???? please, please explain that.

but none of that matters now. all this nonsense talk from people as well as uspr itself, about lawsuits against pane mean absolutely NOTHING to uspr. if pane loses those shareholder lawsuits, does uspr gain anything? the answer is no. so, why are we talking about that.

and the only thing that matters for uspr is that they have no money, they no longer control the land the mine is on, they are seriously delinquent in their sec filings, and they can't pay their lawyers for the lawsuits they are involved in.

new, new, new, new, new, new, new management can have all the "resolve" they want but they have nothing here. and please tell me why anyone should care if pane is on the "hot seat". it means nothing to the price of uspr's stock.

so for over a month we've been subjected to uspr .10 with news.

but there's no news.

plus, what news could there be??? uspr has no money, they don't control the land anymore that the mine is on, and they are involved in multiple lawsuits but can't pay their lawyers.

presently, bankruptcy news or reverse merger news is way more likely then any news that would move this turd higher.

unless of course uspr's new, new, new, new, new, new, new management just makes some news up.

what a shock, right????

worst part is there was plasma tech holdings and plasma arc tech. and the majority of the players were intertwined in one or both, and/or uspr. this is all an inter related scam.

this is getting far uglier then the whole plasma scam. now both parties are taking shots at each other, suing each other, one side pumping uspr while dumping more shares.

the only difference is now there's no longer any talk of mining, just suing each other with no way of knowing who will win, how long it will take, who will be awarded what, and who has the money to pay what they have been ordered to.

this scam has just become sad.

there is no run to .10 it was all a typical uspr pump and dump. different characters same story.

so much for pennyland being imminent, huh? don't think the guy offering stock at .0064 or the seller at .005 is holding for gold.

well, that's interesting that Leufray was part of plasma. so he was part of the rtc deal when uspr sued them, and now he, as upsr ceo, is suing his plasma partner in pane.

this stock is a complete mess.

but what's up with "the contingency"? what do you mean by that? and please explain the holdings in mexico. uspr doesn't own the rights to the land anymore so what holdings are there?

with all the volume here over the past years, i agree. and are we gonna see proof of what the outstanding actually is?

that's true. but there have been multiple uspr ceo's and management teams that have defrauded investors.

this current team is off to a rocky start.

well, what about uspr's claim that the new, new, new, new, new, new ceo has "extensive technical background in mining technologies"?? where's that proof?? what's his "extensive background"??? where did he get this extensive background?

how about the fact that the last 8k statement from uspr says they lost the land in mexico. anything on that??? or that they had no money to pay their lawyers. anything????

or that uspr, or someone that works for them, or that they hired, on a saturday night, between 5:18 and 6:43, updated the new uspr website to change a statement that the new, new, new, new, new, new ceo said so that he wouldn't have made a promise that he clearly did not keep.

there's nothing coming out of uspr now that is business related. suing the former ceo. fine. announcing that a shareholder is suing the ceo, doesn't help them at all.

what about the mine? does uspr own the land? do they have any money? do they have a business plan that makes sense?

anything?????

but uspr doesn't own the rights to the land with the mine anymore so, "gold" is really irrelevant.

not sure the lawyer costs a minimum of $750,000 though, so... and maybe pane is planning to counter sue uspr and the lawyer is doing this on a contingency basis.

we shall see.

again, that's assuming uspr wins the lawsuit and pane has the money to pay uspr. right now, we have no information on both of those two questions.

the last mention from uspr in an 8k was that they lost the land and that they couldn't afford to pay their lawyer. so without any further 8k's from uspr, i'd say no to both.

omg. i can NOT believe this.

this just goes to show how much of a classic pink sheet scam this is. it is pathetic.

uspr amended their website, on a saturday night, to now say that they will get their sec reporting status current in 2018.

funny how uspr responded to a post on ihub!!!!!! lmfao!

what a scam.

i posted about that at 5:18 on a saturday night. and uspr either read the post, or was told about it by someone who read it, and changed it.

wow. what a scam.

this company is bad news. wow.

btw, anything on the new, new, new, new, new ceo's lack of mining experience? or the fact that uspr doesn't own the land anymore????

i don't need to check again. i've seen the lawsuits. i've seen the multitude of new ceo's and interim ceo's. all the startegic partners and joint ventures and lawsuits. i know what they've done here.

all investors should go back and see the history.

it's funny to me that new management created a new website completely erasing the past. doesn't seem transparent to me.

look hard enough, you will find the lawsuits.

a. that's assuming that uspr wins the lawsuit. as a previous poster stated, apparantly pane believes he has a case against uspr. so, uspr would need to win the lawsuit first. and since they have no money, if the suit gets dragged on for years, can they survive that long with no money?

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=138259055

b. even if they win, does anyone know if pane has the $750,000 to give uspr? what if he doesn't? that means uspr has no money, a judgement against pane, but he can't pay. so, what's the point?

also direct from uspr's new website...

http://www.uspr-holdings.com/investors/

Building Value
The team at U.S. Precious Metals has an unparalleled track record in energy and technology markets. Their experience has exposed them to a wide variety of business models and market conditions. This reputation presents a unique opportunity for the company to acquire high earning businesses at favorable prices.

"This reputation presents a unique opportunity for the company to acquire high earning businesses at favorable prices."

1. uspr has no money. their authorized shares is 325 million. their outstanding is 279 million from may of 2016. so without money, and only, if we believe these numbers, 46 million shares left to use, that means uspr has $368,000 worth of stock left to use.

so no money. $368k worth of stock. yea, uspr can acquire some pretty, pretty major companies. lmao.

2. i thought they wanted to mine the land in mexico that they no longer own.

so which is it???