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ECig,,, AS 300, OS 110,,,unchanged,
just confimed in email,,
so this is still , a 30 cents rally, maybe more,
if the shorts back off
cheers
ECIG, sounds good cheers
ECIG, should have done the IPO<
and this would be at 10 bucks or more now.
instead, even know all the DEBT structures
and , still if the IPO had gone thru, the
investors, would be just fine,
but they BURNED everyone,,,
peeps" or traders,,, are not really RIGHT or WRONG
as you say,,,, its a SYSTME,,,, and typically, the
PRICE, volume , AS OS,,, and what the CEO does
will give indications of where a stock is going,
ECIG, is EXCEPTIOn, since its a 200 M company, very few
are like that in OTC....
but to TRADE in OTC,,,, knowing DEBT convertibles, keeps
you out of the trade, until the dust settles, or its
over diluted,, and SHORTS,,, YES SHORTS,,, is critical
that is not part of the Q3 or Q4,,, but it happens
every second , and so the "peeps" need to use
technical information to help ride the wave,
if all we had to do was read Fundamental statements,
well, analystys tell us all we need to know, problem is
, if you follow analysts, you loose most of the time
anyhow
this has lots of varibles left in it,
could hit 1 cents and rally to 30 cents, that would be
dynamite,
or it settles at 10 cents, and then waht? dont know,,,,
we shall see
cheers
and happy new year
ECIG,,, all this accounting, debt,
finance and banking, is all fine, to learn
not easy to digest, and not even easy
to make forecasts. Its good to know
HOW MUCH DEBT there is,,, in covertibles,
taht is true,,,,
but with all this great knowledge, all it took
was, , " WE ARE NOT GOING TO UPLIST TO NASDQ"
and all of a sudden the Debt became an issue.
in fact, im surprised they even have this debt
since 10Million shares, sold at $7 would have
WIPED IT OUT,,,, but this was not done,
so seems like there is MORE to it than just numbers,
im not a CEO nor CFO,,,, of a listed company,
but the debt was easy to get rid of or refinanced,
seems to me there is more to it,,,, DELIBERATE
to bring the price down is what i see.
there is still room for RISK bying an selling,
lots of moving parts,
my take is,, if yoiu wnat to be a good trader in OTC
or NASDQ,,, knowing DEBT structures can help you
NOT jump in,,, but once you are in,,, its PRICE<
volume, shorts, longs. AS OS and investor
pschyology that counts, in Trading, IMO
i still am BULLISH on this stock and dont think that
it can be easily bought out on the cheap, but sometimes
they do,,, if there is a buyout, im looking at $6 or more
cheers
good report, and thanks
dd
ECIG, im completely right, they all dilute,
all companies SELL shares, either at the low price
or at the hgiher price, either was , you can call it
dilution if you want, but that is not the issue
1. when CD s are due, and the selling occurs,
usually the SHORTS jump in knowing there is NOTHING
going on , and the debt wasnot paid. if there is no
shorting, and a PLAN to make the company work, then
its not really dilution, it was ALREADY in the cards,
AS 300
OS 118
anything can save this deal, BUY BACK, is cheap if they
want to,
company has REV, and profits,
there are still moving parts
exciting for sure
hasta la vista
ECIG,,,, OS 117M , still good
convertibles exist ALWAYS IN ALL OTC STOCKS
waist of time to even read them, there almost
always undecipherable,, but SEEKING Alpha did a good job
and even then, was unable to decipher all the debt notes
what killed this was NO IPO ,,,, they deliberately burned
all shareholders, now it will be bought out
peeps do what they are supposeed to do, ride the
momentum,,, not read garbage Q statements,
this company will make 200M revenue next year with AS at 300M,
DEBT? 38M,,, EASY TO HAVE RESTRUCTURED,,,,, it was deliberate,
i Trade,,, this was a special case, but i did not expect the
NO IPO.... cuaght me off gaurd,
I TRADE,,, and never bother with
accounting garbage,,, there all lies ,,,, CHART TALKS
the rest is BS imo
AS OS F,,,, PRICE thats is all that matters,,,, '
hasta la vista
if it reaches the 01 or 005 area, then
we can get a 10 bagger,,,
but to buy at 10 cents and sell at 30 to risky,
imo
ECIG,,, VERY good article,,, at least
it makes the Coversion a little more understandable
since trying to decipher the Q statements is mind boggling
still a gamble
ECIG,,,, there were over 40% shorts, last few weeks,
SHORTING takes these down, if it were just the
dilution, the stock prices would hold
but again, i wont be saying much about this issue,
since it doesnt matter, anybody may interpret as they
wish,,,
RGIN,,, is the stock to have been in, those work,
others are gamble,s
ECIG, was to be in NASDq,,,, 3 hours before they were to
make there move , they declined the entry,,, that to me
is enuff to suggest they really blew it
later
pps went down, not becuase of the dilution
but because there are NO PLANS TO GO
NASDQ,,, if the Nasdq card came into play,
tommorrow, this would TAKE OFF,,
dilution, plus NO plans,,, equates to Lower pps,
cheers
ECIG, OS maxed out here shortly,
ECIG, yeah, they dont give out TA data
unless its emailed,,,, BS to me
my understanding is ECIG IS NOT going to
raise the AS nor sell shares,,,,
but lets get the OS in any case
Float is always hard to locate
later
ECIG, 87% BUYS,,,
only 12% shorts or covers,,
good start
ECIG,,, ok ill check witht eh TA and
see if they answer
ECIG,,, they sould BUY BACK the stock
at these prices, the RESTRUCTURE issue
to me is more complex, and i think im not
sure all you point out is correct,
if the converstion rate is $3.27, certainly,
the CEO should not restructure this portion,
on the other hand, if the price is at .10 cents
or 5 cents. and the Conversion equates to 10,000,000
shares, then the OS is increased,,,, natrualy a point of
diminishing returns will dictate that the OS must not get
maxed out, or the company has no shares to sell at higher prices,
i heard teh CEO say taht they are holding there ground?
i would like to see a Buy back, or Certificable shares, not the
shorte shares, this would LOCK oup the FLOAT and with
comany fundatments, this will make a BIG MOVE
cheers
ECIG,,,, i was wondering on interpreation,
the $3.27 stated in the Balace sheet, is this a
conversion rate for DEBT holders,?
there is still 37Million in debt but is they recieve
at 3.27 ,, then i would not pay the debt either, they
can sell the sares at a discount and they will be bought up
40% SHORTS still
im not thinking its ready to move up yet.
imo
ECIG,,, hifi, can you read the balance sheet
concerning DEBT and $3.27 conversion rate
debt holders have about 37 million, i thik the fist
11 million was yesterday? i currious to know if the
$3.27 is an official rate ,,,,if so then i would not
pay the debt back and let the lender decide to hold or
sell the shares,
what do you think?
ECIG< my understanding is taht the AS will not change,
and the DEBT will turn into convertibles, and the seller
will dump. There is still, 37M of DEBT, that i think can
turn into shares at market, not and i think the price is
fixed at $3.27 per share, so the BUYER is getting good price,
5 cents.
DO you think this goes to a penny before the Rally?
keep in mind, that NASDqis there PLAN so RS is always on option
but this is a 200MIllion compay and REVS are positive,,,
so the issue is,,, we goingto a penny or we rally fromthe
5 cents.?
PWDY,,, do we have the official AS
from Deleware ? as of 2014,?
there site doesnt give this data quickly,
does anybody know?
cheers
UAMM wahts the AS on this ONE?
its at 0009
ECIG, this was SUPPOSED to
be in NASDq, that is why i was very
bullish on this, then they made the statement
that they were POSTPOING going t0 Nasdq,,,
THAT WAS A BAD DEAL FOR ME and others who EXPECTED
the IPO ,,,,,,,,
so from here, there are several things,,,
TRADE IT<,,,, i dont trust it as much as i did before,
there was NO REASON for them to postpone Nasdq listing
now its under a BUCK,, to get nasdq it has to stay ABOVE
the ONE, for some time,,,, so i think now,,, an RS is
in the cards,,,,
AS 300 M ,, so far,,, i have my EYE on that ,,,
this could stay at 10 censt and RALLY
or
5 cents
or 1 cnests
if it goes to one or under one, and no RS, then
we have a gareat 10 30 bagger,,,
at this point, i dont know how high it will do
unless they make CLEAR how and when nasdq will take place
but
this is a 200 Million Company, with 2 positive earnings.
so if they get 2 more positive earnings , then it still could
have a good slow rise
im playing it to trade it,,,, and hold a few for the big move
cheers
ECIG, why concerned, if the AS is 300 and
stays that way, we are in good shape
ECIG,? how about finding some FLOAT LOCKS
so we can jump in? any out there
?
cheers
ECIG,,, not always in OTC, they GO DOWN and stay down,
but not his one, not yet , not for a long time,
so what is needed is a simple FLOAT LOCK,,, then this becomes
accademic, and the company can begin to
regroup and do the IPO etc.
any idea what the FLoat is?
cheers
ECIG, i agree, any excuse to take it
down, and it happens,,,, i still think the
fundamentals are good, and so when the dust
settles, if there is NO Dilituion, this
should be a winner..
30% shorts is standard proceedure,
so we have some COVERS, and some extra
shorters,,, but this should bottom out
and begin to rise,
whats u take on it
ECIG, wahts keeping this down?
ECIG, let us know if the Conversions are
over yet
ECIG,,, rally coming soon?
ECIG, is this good at this level?
conversions, let us know when there over
PM if you can, i will have PM next year,
Crystal Ball, what do you mean
"i dont know": ,, i thought you
had the CEOx in your pocket,
anyhow, truth is, nobody knows until
the day it moves
cheers
dd
PMEA, we going to see 3 cents soon?
cheers
happy holidays
Not bad, not good, but im ready to
start the OTC Wagon again,
lets get the good ones < and plug away
ill be screening Regular as I intended,
so i should be able to bring a few every month
to the board,,,,
cheers
ECIG, insiders with 10 MIllion restricted shares
are now selling there shares, that have become unrestricted,
there not holding, so its going down,
this is a ONE BILLION COMPANY,,,, and even if price goes to
10 cents, and even they cant get into NASDQ, thiswill trade
into above 6 bucks,,, and if earnings come in, it can go
higher
cheers
with Liquidity dried up and salaries STINK< GLOBALLY< except for
govt. employees,,,
sooner or later the Oil Barons had to let the price down,
if they want to keep money coming in, or the demand
will justgo down ,,,, OIL needs to be BELOW 50 bucks,
then we will see a GLOBAL RECOVERY wihtout salary
increases
they have ROBBED us for 10 years, and nobody stopped them
so now they are FULL OF MONEY and are letting the prices
down as they should be.... unfortunatley, they CONTROL the
natural resources but there time is up.... party for them is over.
oil will settle below 50
ECIG, nice low price here, may
go even lower, who knows. But this company
has ONE Sales on the horrizon, so if the AS stays at 300M
this should do well and get above 20 BUcks again'
imo
cheers
PEII, is this going RS or not?
what do you think
cheers
GDGD, how high is this
going to go? lets say 003?
at least
imo