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I thimk you meanT ''no preaching'' ?
I thimk you meanT ''no preaching'' ?
''Far from an investment.''
You cannot be more right ... it's a BET.
As usual you interpret everything trying to support whatever objective you have, making believe you know better than us all.
The ''Material facts'' I address are your own ''word for word'' misleading statements'' making the content of your posts''.
In relation to your request for ''material facts about this company'', you , as usual only see what fits your objective, whatever it is for whatever reason you have.
Just to put it clear, assuming you need me to do it, The ''material facts about this company'' I repeated for a long time to debunk your affirmations are:
- The company has been operating for years and keeps operating as of today (notwithstanding your hundreds of posts predicting disaster)
- The company has serious dept anyone knows about and that explain the current market cap or pps, based on a multiplier of 1\3 of 1% of revenues.
- The company normally and regularly reports its quaterly an annual financials whatever the ''FACTS'' really are.
- The company hasn't diluted us for almost 1.5 years now, notwithstanding your continuous forecasting up to about 1 year ago.
- Leon is not very much outspoken relative to what his plan is or not (Many executives of sub penny OTC stocks do promote their stocks continuously)
The above is reflected in our current pps (market cap). Therefore, it doesn't take a genious to understand that this stock is currently more of a BET than a ''serious INVESTMENT''.
Therefore anyone spending his life repeating the same generally officially published facts facts, trying to describe the (stock) company as it it was a serious investment is at least subjectively byass or even worse.
I would have assumed that after years of predicting the failure of this outfit, you would have realised you know as much as anyone in here, (i.e. not much) about what Leon will do or not in the future. All you keep repeating ad noseam is what was in the past (making your posts as you say unassailable).
I wish you to get a life and enjoy betting on this stock or, better even, just go and do something positive somewhere else. Your affirmation that you do to help poor new comers is pretty ridicule and no one does belive that this is your motivation.
Not being a scientific person, I am not sure I understand your post ?
California recently banned Red Dye No.3?
Else Nutrition products contain red dye no3.
At Else Nutrition ... we simply do not put any dyes in our products.
'' We do not put dyes'' but it ''contains red dye'' ???
Also: Do you have a reference of where we can find the Dr's video you refer to?
Thanks
They have positioned their funds for recovery if possible.
... loan owed to Shawn Leon's wife
the Leons recovered at least $546K
They are still owed a bit more than $3 million
Somehow they (as you said are not scammers) have put a lot in it to start with and only recovered a small part of their funds and lowns. Maybe they did not figure out they were screwing themselves all along.
Maybe we and they will lose our bets (theirs bigger than ours) but may be they (we) will survive and succeed. That's call a risk.
If your point is that this has been and is a high risk bet, you do not have to go 20 years back to justify it, trying to look smarter than most current shareholders.
If (as you suggest) your efforts are aimed at protecting potential newcomers to the stock, you assume people buying sub-sub-sub-penny stock are stupid investors whereas they are most likely small gamblers.
If you want us to believe that Leon is continuously manipulating stupid lenders in supporting his crooked activities, you assume to be smarter than them also.
Current shareholders, lenders, newcomers, ... According to your posting they all are a bunch of stupid people needing your presumed 'fantastic historical analysises' to help or save them.
Why not say it as it is: GRST is a risky bet and anyone buying in or keeping a $0.000X stock must know he is betting, not investing. If he doesn't he is too stupid to even undersnd what you keep repeating.
Why not tell us why you make such an effort to expose Leon for what you want us to believe he is; a crooked manipulator exployting shareholders and lenders?
To suggest that ''the affair is doom to fail'', is some kind of a lie since those supporting this ''theory'' cannot prove it will, after years of explaining why it will .
To suggest that ''the affair will make us all rich'', is some kind of a lie since those supporting this ''theory'' cannot prove it will, after years of saying why it will .
What is not a lie is to say that: ''This is a high risk bet someone should only get involved with, using money it can afford to lose.
Facts are simple:
1- The company operates and Leon work at managing it.
2- The debt is a major concern to take into account
3- The company duly reports quaterly.
That is the context one should understand before putting or keeping money in.
The Bubae BS (as an example) is wishfull thinking based on the #2 (the debt). Unless he is a very well informed insider, his effort to look smarter than most is just a stragegy to look smart.
Anther post made by someone making believe he knows better than us all ...
''He just simply borrows, and finds new ways to borrow and repack the debt.'' ... I assume the lender believe they will be paid back.
''To the point now that he had to personally guarantee the last $9 million deal'' ... Why would someone do that unless he seriously believes he can solve the debt issued?
''Without the backing of his personal financial statement this company would be bankrupt.'' ... The least we can say is that he puts his money where is mouth is (and his mouth he doesn't use that much).
''He borrows for long periods followed by fits of dilution.'' ... He did not dilute us for a long time.
'' No real strategy for anything really he just reacts at a glacial pace.'' ... I assume he has a plan/strategy but I agree it takes him a long time to execute it ... whatever it is. If he was saying what it is, I'm sure you would find a way to say it is doom to fail. As an example he still mention regulation ''A '' and for sure you try to ridicule it without really knowing what his plan is (As you say: ''The guy takes FOREVER to do anything''). You also affirm that regulation ''A'' will not be viable. Leon however may be slow but HE believes it is. I assume he knows better than us.
'' I talk about it all of the time because there are new eyes on this all the time that don't know that this business model has failed at two previous locations and that this partially owned treatment center with its own share structure and investors is an open cash sucking wound for Ethema Health (GRST). ... Your concern relative to new eyes is pure BS and as usual you are affirmative that what happenned in the past is being repeated.
THE FACT IS YOU TAKE YOUR DREAMS FOR REALITY AND KNOW AS MUCH AS US ALL .
You may be right, you may be wrong and as I keep saying (helping ''new eyes'') GRST is not an INVESTMENT but a BET one can only play knowing the risk. After all for the moment, the stock is a sub-sub-sub-penny one and even ''new eyes'' do understand that.
I keep wondering what in the world justifies your stupid behavior, repeating ad nauseam the same details trying to support your views oropinions ?
Revenge (following a bad experience with Leon)? Support for your own accumulation of shares? Being paid to do your posting? Frustration after you lost big with this stock in the past? ...
Whatever the case, with minimum honesty you would admit that there is an operating company behind the stock, it generates revenues, it duly report quaterly and this RISKY BET is justifyable up to a point.
At current pps (+ o - $500 per million shares) there is not much to lose but, if Leon succeed at whatever he is trying to do to rebuilt this company (find large investors, obtain government grants, ...) the upward potential is to say the least quite interesting. (current multiplier behind our current pps is more or less 0.3).
You can believe that this business is a total failure in the making but if you can be honest you should also believe that Leon is trying to succeed and not a scammer.
In the stock market one can INVEST or BET.
GRST is currently a BET and you, pretending to do serious analysis of it as if it was an INVESTMENT proves you to be ridiculous or even worse.
I for one have a bet on the table and look forward to the next cards to be turned.
I may be naive but the reason I keep describing our CEO incompetence in general management of a startup like business is maybe (just maybe) she or someone close to her will endup realising how stupid her stubborness is and making them wakeup before they get to the point of no return. For now they have a development/distribution company (no manufacturing), few assets (excluding patents getting old) and no marketing worth mentionning. More recently they try to survive by diluting the shareholders.
Hope you did not lose to much exiting (may be the smart thing to do).
Personally I keep my shares for 2 reasons:
- My NET cost is very low (I traded effectively a couple of years ago) and I do not care if my current owning goes away,
- Cannot believe our CEO will keep destroying the company forever without waking up or having someone close to her influencing her.
When that affair started, our CEO envisionned a $5,000,000,000 billions business within 5 years. Considering the market she is in, that was feasable but she blew it big. Let's see if I will endup saying I knew and should have sold at $0,25 or so so.
56 % sell is even better than I would suggest.
I wonder ... What will it take for the woman to realise she needs help ?
Alternatively, does she intend to just keep going issuing shares indefinitely till we own sub penny shares ?
I do not know Leon and I believe ha could be a crook operating a scam or an honest person working hard at reviving something that's been screwed in the past.
All I know is that he seems to operate a real business and duly report quaterly. On the otherhand, he is crippled with debt and that boat anchor could drawn whatever plan he may have or dream of.
That's why I consider the money I have in that a 'risky bet' the odds currently not that good.
Anyone thinking it's a scam should sell and go away trying his luck somewhere else.
Anyone thinking it's a risky bet should decide how big a risk it represents and figure out what his tolerance to risk is and decide to keep his bet on the table or pull it out before the ball stops on a number.
Anyone looking at it as an INVESTMENT is either naive, stupid or more likely hypocrit just having a hidden agenda of his own.
For the moment, the wheel still spin and time to place or take out your bet.
My issue with you is not the FACTS you refer to, it's the way you interpret them in view of supporting your OPINIONS and whatever motivates your effort to AFFIRM what lies ahead.
I look at FACT also and see reasons to be somewhat optimistic and somewhat pessimistic.
Like it or not, both of us do not KNOW what the future of this stock will endup being. I for one suggest it may go one way or the other (RISK), you on the otherand did for years and still do AFFIRM that GRST is going to fail completely or even is an outright scam led by a crook.
As usual, you subjectively make and interpret everything in view of misleading and supporting your need. Let’s look at your Quote: ‘. … you who have been PROMOTING this mess FOR YEARS, and continue to do so! 🙄
’’ (Oxford dictionary: PROMOTING: ‘’further, support or actively encourage something (especially a venture)’’.
Since you like quoting the past, let me do it also going back 2 years ..
1- (post #38916 – November 22,2021 1:02:28PM): ‘As I said, in this environment do only ‘’BET MONEY’’ you can afford to lose’’
2- (post #38823 – November 19,2021 1:38:37PM): ‘MUCH TO GAIN NOT MUCH TO LOSE ... unless one believe that Leon will fold within a couple of days (lol).
3- (post # 49187 – November 21,2023 9:19:42AM: ''something that this CEO promised that he has done'' ‘’(Leon) Keeps running the company, still having a real operation generating revenues, make move toward solving THE ISSUE (DEBT MAKING THIS AN IMPORTANT RISK)’’
I obviously did not promote, just OBJECTIVELY GIVE FACTS (Only BET … Much to gain, much to lose, Important risk … ).
I WONDER WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ??? (trying to buy low, paid to post, taking a revenge, …). Whatever the reason, you have been wrong with your said opinions for years … UP TO NOW however.
'' If they aren't able to con the future retail buyers of this stock they are done ''
What's new. According to you they've been done full time for the last 2 years.
I sincerely wonder what motivates you to post that much, IF you are not even a shareholder. If you do not have a hidden agenda motivating it, then I wonder what is wrong with you ???
As I said we are looking at a bet and the wheel is still turning (even if some thinks it doesn't.
Personally, I own shares and it's be I can eaily offer to lose with minimum pain. On the other hand, if Leon succeeds at improving the situation by getting funds (governments, issue of shares at interesting price, ...) to reduce the debt, then the return could be very interesting.
If one has shares he must accept that GRST is a risky bet and with any bet, one has to accept the risk.
If one has no shares, I wonder what can motivate him to post herein ???
Looking forward for the analysis of our infamous joker who will absolutely figure out that this is BS and just confirming that the company is dying. Let's see.
''badly needed regulation A"" offering whos shares are immediately tradable''
As you know I belive this to be a risky bet (not an investment).
The main issue in here is the weight of the debts on our balance sheet (and associated costs)
If the proceeds of regulation A offering WAS USED TO ELIMINATE MILLIONS IN DEBT, I assume that would help having a pps much higher right away.
I doubt, even if these shares were to be traded rapidly that our market value would remain based on a multiplier of about 0.25 (current one because of the debts)
By the way since we are both not in the know relative to what Leon does, why not IMAGINE that he is trying to get governmental fundings. After all Leon operates in a sector that is a governmental priority right now.
BOTTOM LINE: We both do not know what the future will bring and I FOR ONE am honest to say it (instead of forecasting certain disaster looking at the past).
''Oh gosh, was I correct again, I have quite a consistent track record here for being right.🤣😂''
If you had been just a little right over the last 2 years, the company would not exist anymore. You obviously have an hidden agenda (paid to post, accumulating shares, taking revenge ...). No sain person would work as hard as you do for no reason (by the way altruisticly helping poor naive potential shareholders is one of your best joke 🤣😂
''Curious that you would want to rehash this point''
Talking about rehashing, it is curious to read that in one of your posts. LOL!
Inexistant marketing, manufacturing issues, ... however plenty of A/S to use (dilution) for creating funding to keep doing the same as usual.
What a mess !
''something that this CEO promised that he has done''
Keep running the company, still having a real operation generating revenues, make move toward solving THE ISSUE (DEBT) making this an important risk, ...
One only sees what he want to see.
Notwithstanding what you wrote then and since, the company still operates and reports and progress seems to be made.
This being said it's a nice bet to make and no one with a head on his shoulders should look at it as if this was a blue chip.
''trading volume of only 42 million for the day.''
Means that current shareholders are not dumping and Leon hasn't yet diluted us ... whatever you alluded to in the last 2 years or so.
I agree but I just want to expose our expert and his repetitive bla bla bla now and then when I am on my pc. Whatever I or he says, we canno change anything but ourselves.
1- If saying that GRST is a high risk sub-sub-sub-penny stock is promoting it, then I did and do.
2- ''you have never been able to shown where I have been wrong''.Afte r years of negative analysises the least we can say is you have not been proven right (yet). I additionally do not have to prove you wrong, just saying regularly that this is a high risk bet means you may be right or you may be wrong. Time will tell. Till then, you know as much as we all do.
If your point is that the company and Leon are having troubles you are right and everybody knows it. One has to wonder why someone as smart as you pretend to be spends that much time trying to prove it ... even more if that someone is not even a shareholder ???????
''The problem Shawn Leon has is that he needs to continue to borrow since the shares are worthless in terms of attracting capital of converting debt.''Now they are blowing the funds of future shareholders with the debt refinancing schemes (obviously people are running into lowning them funds they most likely will never recuperate, according to you).
The problem Shawn Leon has is that he needs to continue to borrow since the shares are worthless in terms of attracting capital of converting debt. QUESTION?Who in that context will lown him money ???
Must be lonesome to be the only smart person around (LOL)
For as long as one can enjoy risking a small money (more or less $400 per million shares) GRST is a nice Bet to try considering the current staus of the company (Large debt, real revenues, market cap of + or - $1,600,000). Doesn't take a genius to figure out this to be a high risk loss/reward bet.
If you decide to get to the table, just enjoy the game and I wish you the best.
''have been correct for a couple of years'' ... Anyone can quote official reports but doing it foreseeing failure for 2 years + doesn't give you much credibility. It suggests however a ''personal animus'' of your own ???
'"just another poster giving his opinion" based on little but personal animus.' I wonder (excpt for expressing my opinion) what the said 'Animus' could be saying that (fact) ''GRST is a sub-sub-sub-penny stock on OTC of a operating and reporting company''.
''the personal guarantee of Shawn Leon's personal financial statement''' ... I wonder why someone able to do that would do it considering your ''analysises''? Desperation or personnal belief? At least he seem to put his money where his mouth is.
Whatever your repetitive reashing of public information you posted for years, GRST is still live and kicking. Personnally, i believe that at current PPS, someone could make a small risky bet offering low loss possibility and high reward potential. All one has to do to play (or not) is notice that behng this bet there is an operationreporting duly.
Once more you repeat the same story that was suppose to terminate that affair for years according to your posts. NOTWITHSTANDING YOUR CONTINUOUS PRETENTION TO KNOW MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE, grst keeps operating and duly reporting quarter after quarter.
As i keep saying this will either succeed or fail (like any other bet). You have one chance out of 2 to finally have been right. Till then you are just another poster giving his opinion, assuming to be smarter than anyone. else.
Wealthy? No but have enough considering my age. As for lashing out at the one person you refer to, I believe he has a secret agenda motivating his agressive behavior and the effort he makes trying to destroy the stock and Leon. He pretend to act in an altruistic context but I absolutely do not believe that.
Finally relative to losing money my net cost is effectively somewhat higher than 0,0004 (cosidering my past trading up and down) but right now, per 1,000,000 shares the current value of my bet is only $ 400 or so. One doesn't have wealthy to keep this sub-sub-sub-penny stock, considering (whatever our infamous analyst says) there is some kind of asset behind it and financials are normally reported. I consider this bet to be high risk but one that's not that much worst than playing roulette in a Casino.
My advice:
- No one should bet more than he can loose without pain,
- If Leon can succeed, not many stocks do offer that high a profit potencial,
- A GRST shareholder should does sit on his bet and wait till the roulette stops
Your ''objectivity'' makes you blast Leon if he issues a lease and blast him again if he doesn't. Sund likes someone frustrated and antagonistic for a reason of is most likely based on an historic between him and Leon.
Nice post. Thanks
1- CEO incompetent: I often mentionned she is a good scientific person having developped a great offering and buying in, I did put my money where my mouth is. My point is that she understand business management as well as I do of scientific topics. The consequence is that our offering is the best kept secret in the industry.
2- Marketing is the answer to everything: No just one of the four skills a business manager should be able to manage directly or indirectly (with R&D, manufacturing and finance).
3- My credentials: 17 years with IBM (regional manager for the last 5 years) 17 years with a startup competing IBM with Japaneeses who developped an outstanding offering. I contributed to make our Canadian company grow from no revenues to $140,000,000 and ended up national vpn of the company
4- I'm now much to old to offer my services and anyhow, I'm sure there are great people better qualified than i am in the understanding of the markets we try to get to.
5- No it all: never hinted I do and could not have done what our CEO did. The fact is she doesn't understand marketing an d I do not pretend knowing what product development is.
6- Finally over the initial years I traded somehat with this stock and now own a lot of shares with a reasonable NET COST (still in the red obviously). I do not need the cash I still have at play and being an optimist, I assume someone will endup getting our CEO to understand that building a multinational company worth more or less $35M after years of effort is the closest thig to failure.
You may believe that this is ''just another meaningless statement'' and that is your opinion that you can have. At least in my case, my opinion is one of someone who still has skin in the fight.
Just another meaningless statement by an incompetent dreamer.
In your dream. I must admit I tought our stupid CEO would finally figure out how ridicule her overall management capacity has been. Here she is with another insignificant move following another disastrous quarter (what acrazy excuse she offers).
This investment I tought I had has become a bet. The bet is: Will she wakeup and look for appropriate help or will she wait till all she has to offer is a pile of patents someone may want to get? At current pps, I keep my bet (net cost after 3 years) running and hope the woman not to br suicidal.
One has to wonder why someone self assumed smart would spend that much time debating suc a stock as if it was a blue chip? The good news: Ridicule is not a mortal decease.
Our ceo is desperate and digging her financial grave. Having had such an opportunity and blowing it gradually because of her incompetence. Saw histories like that (failure with great innovative products) before but never tought this woman was that stupid as a business manager. I'm afraid the worst is to come with that stubborn person in control of the company.