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Bluebird just because he doesn’t specialize in number crunching, dosen’t mean he can’t hire confident CPAs to crunch numbers. Would you clean out you own crap tank when ya could pay someone else?
That sounds good to me! eom
I agree 300 shares in JPM is pocket change. Looks don’t matter, results on past history performance does. I disagree in reference to: “I have the feeling that he's going to do everything in his power to get us every last dime that is the rightful property of equity.” Bottom line up front his job is to get to the truth. Good, bad or very good for equity.
OK. Here is something crazy. Tell him to put JPM, FDIC, OTS and Brian Rosen into a 44 chicken wing with a modify deposition grip demanding the list of assets transfer to JPM. Failure to do so will result in a smacking, smacking of that arse!! LOL. Bye the way keep on tweeting!!!!
I don’t think BR was counting on this. In just a few short months he manages to put his back up against a wall with a little help from UST, Susman, and EC. The firing squad is lock and loaded. The only person that can prevent this execution I mean call off the examiner is the Judge. IMO she had enough with Rosen false promises, deceptions and open lies in her court. I believe the Honorable Judge Mary Walrath gave BR every opportunity out of professional respect to do what was legally bound by law. BR failed to recognize the signs written on the wall and now all hell is going to break loose.
When the examiner starts his investigation he will find hidden assets, fraudulent transfer, falsified documents provided by JPM to FDIC, Naked short list, Major players in 16 billion deposit withdraw, gifting billions to JPM/FDIC, Project West, MR. Paulson statement “You should have sold to JPM and you should sell now”, W&G excessive billing, Moodys downgrade and timing, Person or entity for media leak, Bond holders that bought bonds at 0.001 and demand 100 cents per share on the dollar plus/warrants in the reorg of WMI while common and preferred share holders get the shaft.
My point was you have a serious problem when you seize a solvent bank. That so call POR/POS revision # 5 will not fly. UST pick this guy for a reason. As you know he has a past history with W&G and knows their MO. If Brian Rosen continues down his current path he faces serious repercussion. Example:
Lawyer Joseph P. Collins (Refco Inc.’s principal outside counsel and former senior partner at Mayer Brown LLP) was convicted by a federal jury for his role in the massive scheme to defraud investors. After a nine-week trial, Collins was criminally convicted on five of the fourteen counts with which he was charged, including two counts of securities fraud, one count of conspiracy and two counts of wire fraud.
He can start here:
WASHINGTON MUTUAL, INC. DIRECT AND INDIRECT SUBSIDIARIES
110 East 42nd Operating Company, Inc.
620-622 Pellhamdale Avenue Owners Corporation
Accord Realty Management Corporation
ACD2
ACD3
ACD4
Ahmanson Developments, Inc.
Ahmanson GGC LLC
Ahmanson Insurance, Inc.
Ahmanson Land Company
Ahmanson Marketing, Inc.
Ahmanson Obligation Company
Ahmanson Residential 2
Ahmanson Residential Development
Bryant Financial Corporation
California Reconveyance Company
CCB Capital Trust IV
CCB Capital Trust IX
CCB Capital Trust V
CCB Capital Trust VI
CCB Capital Trust VII
CCB Capital Trust VIII
Clayton Blackbear, Inc.
Commercial Loan Partners L.P.
CRP Properties, Inc.
Dime Capital Partners, Inc.
Dime Commercial Corp.
Dime CRE, Inc.
Dime Mortgage of New Jersey, Inc.
ECP Properties, Inc.
The E-F Battery Accord Corporation
F.C. LTD.
FA California Aircraft Holding Corporation
FA Out-of-State Holdings, Inc.
Flower Street Corporation
Great Western FS Corporation
Great Western Service Corporation Two
H.F. Ahmanson & Company
H.S. Loan Corporation
Harmony Agency, Inc.
HCP Properties Holdings, Inc.
HCP Properties, Inc.
HFC Capital Trust I
HHP Investment, LLC
HMP Properties, Inc.
Home Crest Insurance Services, Inc.
HS Loan Partners LLC
Irvine Corporate Center, Inc.
Ladue Service Corporation
Long Beach Securities Corp.
Marion Insurance Company, Inc.
Marion Street, Inc.
Mid Country Inc.
Murphy Favre Housing Managers, Inc.
Murphy Favre Properties, Inc.
NAMCO Securities Corp.
Nickel Purchasing Company, Inc.
Norstar Mortgage Corp.
North Properties, Inc.
Pacific Centre Associates LLC
Pacoima Investment Fund LLC
PCA Asset Holdings LLC
Pike Street Holdings, Inc.
Plainview Inn, Inc.
Providian Bancorp Services
Providian Leasing Corporation
Providian Mauritius Investments LTD
Providian Services Corporation
Providian Services LLC
Providian Technology Services Private Limited
Reverse Exchange Corporation
Rivergrade Investment Corp.
Riverpoint Associates
Robena Feedstock LLC
Robena LLC
Savings of America, Inc.
Seafair Securities Holdings Corp.
Second and Union LLC
Seneca Funding (UK) Limited
Seneca Funding LLC
Seneca Funding Management LLC
Seneca Funding Trust
Seneca Holdings, Inc.
Seneca Newco LLC
Seneca Street, Inc.
Sivage Financial Services LLC
Snohomish Asset Holdings LLC
SoundBay Leasing LLC
Stockton Plaza, Incorporated
Strand Capital LLC
Sutter Bay Associates LLC
Sutter Bay Corporation
Thackeray Funding Corp.
Thackeray Funding Partners
Thackeray Holdings Corp.
University Street, Inc.
WaMu 1031 Exchange
WaMu Asset Acceptance Corp.
WaMu Capital Corp.
WaMu Insurance Services, Inc.
WaMu Investments, Inc.
Washington Mutual Asset Securities Corp.
Washington Mutual Bank
Washington Mutual Bank fsb
Washington Mutual Brokerage Holdings, Inc.
Washington Mutual Capital Trust 2001
Washington Mutual Community Development, Inc.
Washington Mutual Finance Group LLC
Washington Mutual Life Insurance Company of California, a Stock
Insurer
Washington Mutual Mortgage Securities Corp.
Washington Mutual Preferred Funding LLC
Washington Mutual Trade Service Limited
Washington Mutual-Seattle Art Museum Project Owners Association
Western Service Co.
WM Aircraft Holdings LLC
WM Asset Holdings Corp.
WM Citation Holdings, LLC
WM Enterprises & Holdings, Inc.
WM Funds Disbursements, Inc.
WM Marion Holdings LLC
WM Mortgage Reinsurance Company, Inc.
WM Specialty Mortgage LLC
WM Winslow Funding LLC
WMB St. Helens LLC
WMBFA Insurance Agency, Inc.
WMFS Insurance Services, Inc.
WMGW Delaware Holdings LLC
WMHFA Delaware Holdings LLC
WMI Investment Corp.
WMI Rainier LLC
WMICC Delaware Holdings LLC
WMRP Delaware Holdings LLC
Yellowstone Venture, Inc.
It can’t get simpler than this. We only need one document to bring this to an end. Mr. Hochberg goes to JPM Chase Headquarter and demands the list of WMI assets transfer to JPM from FDIC. A couple of CPAs and its game over A>L.
Brian Rosen does this sound familiar?
Lawyer Joseph P. Collins (Refco Inc.’s principal outside counsel and former senior partner at Mayer Brown LLP) was convicted by a federal jury for his role in the massive scheme to defraud investors. After a nine-week trial, Collins was criminally convicted on five of the fourteen counts with which he was charged, including two counts of securities fraud, one count of conspiracy and two counts of wire fraud.
Current PPS don’t mean jack to me. I’m holding until the final ruling and case is closed. A positive ruling and we are rich, a negative ruling and it’s a tax write off. I believe justice will be served in due time and I’ll be obligated to pay Uncle Sam a lot in taxes.
With the media past history with WAMU they will more than likely put a negative spin on the appointment of an examiner. LOL
This order was written by Rosen. I hope the judge makes some changes.
Court-Appointed Enron Examiner Asks Judge for Protection from Liability.
Publication: Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News
Date: Thursday, December 4 2003
By Eric Berger, Houston Chronicle Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News
Dec. 4--The $100 million man of Enron's bankruptcy, court-appointed examiner Neal Batson, is seeking to cut his ties with the case after 18 months.
Having produced 4,000 pages of reports outlining the tangled financial partnerships Enron used to mask its dwindling fiscal health, Batson has asked a bankruptcy judge for immunity from any and all subpoenas, permission to shred the documents he has collected and complete protection from any liability.
Because, I’m a filthy rich executive. I get what I want and stop at nothing including breaking the law to reach my goals. I can steal oops I mean buy any bank I want for a dollar to support my lifestyle. I have 3 billion dollars set aside to viciously defend my position. I also reserve billions for lobbies to influence Law makers. I use my MM’s to manipulate precious metals for profit. I control the media and rating agencies. I stole and 300B Corporation I mean bought for 1.888 billion. The irony is WAMU was established in 1888. The joke is on you.
Total BS. Last two day’s nothing but buys and MM’s keep walking this down. Hello! SEC do your job and stop watching porn!!!!!
JD is upset. LOL. eom
For: Brian Rosen.
Man we sure due have a lot of speculation flying around here on Yahoo land, but if you think about it for a second, how can a reasonable person justify giving away billions of NOL’s, claims against JPM, FDIC, OTS and credit rating agencies involved in the take down of a 300 billion corporation.
How can you justify this with your current POR/DS?
Simple answer is you can’t. Listen up BR, you throwing crap at the wall hoping something will stick. Dude it’s not going to happen.
JPM received 25B in TARP funds and by Law JPM can not receive NOL’s. You are a Lawyer right? I think you need to retake the Bar exam so you can familiar yourself with current Law.
Why would you give NOL’s to the FDIC for seizing a solvent bank when it cost tax payers zero, nothing/nada? OTS and JPM admitted in court documents that WAMU was a solvent bank at the time of seizure!!! Again retake the Bar exam so you can familiar yourself with current Law when giving NOL’s to FDIC.
Well the bottom line up front to your failure is the greed of the BOD, JPM, FDIC and your Law firm for milking the assets of WAMU. How dare you sir in open court to state that the EC is trying to milk JPM when you are supposed to represent WAMU. Who owns WAMU?
A. Bondholders
B. Creditors
C. Shareholders
You and your team are against a brick wall and a sealed document in which two hours passed in the Judge Chambers. I bet Susman team of lawyers looked under the rug and found some dirt. They opened up a closet and guess what? Found a skeleton!
Bottom line up front is pay up!!!!!
I don’t think BS was halted because after the 10 dollar per share was announced the stock traded at 12 plus per share for a couple of days. IMO it was naked shorts covering.
I agree with your statement.
Retroactive law is only unconstitutional if it impairs vested rights, interferes with obligations under contracts (such as creating new obligations or attaching new disabilities), has the effect of an ex post facto law or bill of attainder, or is prohibited by the United States Constitution.
I don’t know for sure but I think the 1st week of July. Just have to wait and see. They could do a R/S and avoid being delisted.
Ouch!! New 52 week lows. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are going to get shorted into the mud. I’ll load up at 0.05 when the bottom feeders come out.
Thank you for the updates and have a safe trip home.
So does that mean a trustee will be appointed if te POR fails?
Are you sure. I just check the company website and he is still their in the company profile under directors.
You guys need to chill! Look at what I found! LOL.
Come and listen to a story about a man name Jed a poor mountaineer, barley kept his family fed, then one day he was shooting at some food, and up through the ground came bubbling crude. Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea. Well the first thing you know ol Jed’s a millionaire, Kinfolk said “ Jed move away from there” Said “ Californy is the place you ought to be” So they loaded up the truck and moved to Beverly. Hills, that is, swimming pool, movies stars.
Well now its time to say good by to Jed and all his kin. And they would like to thank you folks fer kindly dropping in. You’re all invited back a gain to this locality to have a helping of their hospitality. Hillybilly that is. Set a spell, take your shoes off.
Y’all come back now, y’hear?.
No trouble sleeping with me. I’m sure there are a lot of MM’s there worrying about the NSS that will eventual need to be resolved. Some people will end up in jail while others hit with heavy fines. MM’s nightmare is coming to a reality. Numbers will be coming to light soon IMO.
Yea, here comes the Judge with a 44 chicken wing and modify monkey grip on Rosen to produce a global settlement on the 19th of May sign by all parties. Rosen, get ready for that smacking, smacking azz kicking denial!!! Suck it up, it’s coming and going to hurt. LOL!!!!
You don’t need powder. You need nitroglycerin. This article is about the chemical properties of nitroglycerin and its use as an explosive. For medical and pharmacological applications, see glyceryl trinitrate (pharmacology).
Nitroglycerin
IUPAC name[hide]
1,2,3-trinitroxypropane
Other names[hide]
1,3-dinitrooxypropan-2-yl nitrate
propane-1,2,3-triyl trinitrate
Identifiers
CAS number
55-63-0
PubChem
4510
UN number
0143, 0144, 1204, 3064
SMILES
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Properties
Molecular formula
C3H5N3O9
Molar mass
227.09 g mol-1
Appearance Clear yellow/colorless oily liquid
Density
1.6 g/cm³ at 15 °C
Melting point
13.2 °C, 286 K, 56 °F
Boiling point
Decomposes at 50–60 °C (122–140 °F)
Explosive data
Shock sensitivity
high
Friction sensitivity
high
Explosive velocity
7700 m/s
RE factor
1.50
Hazards
NFPA 704
3
3
4
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Except where noted otherwise, data are given for materials in their standard state (at 25 °C, 100 kPa)
Infobox references
Nitroglycerin (NG), (United States spelling) also known as nitroglycerine, (UK spelling), trinitroglycerin, trinitroglycerine, 1,2,3-trinitroxypropane and glyceryl trinitrate, is a heavy, colorless, oily, explosive liquid obtained by nitrating glycerol. Since the 1860s, it has been used as an active ingredient in the manufacture of explosives, specifically dynamite, and as such is employed in the construction and demolition industries. Similarly, since the 1880s, it has been used by the military as an active ingredient, and a gellatinizer for nitrocellulose, in some solid propellants, such as Cordite and Ballistite.
Nitroglycerin is also used medically as a vasodilator to treat heart conditions, such as angina and chronic heart failure. It is one of the oldest and most useful drugs for treating heart disease by shortening or even preventing attacks of angina pectoris. Nitroglycerin comes in forms of tablets, sprays or patches.[1] An alternative IUPAC name is [2,3-bis(nitrooxy)propyl] nitrate. Nitroglycerin can be used to help destroy prostate cancer[2] as well as being used as a heart medicine.
I hope he does and get caught in another lie. At some point and time the Judge has to realize that he is working for JPM. He has no interest in maximizing the estate. Hell he is trying to give away the estates money to JPM and FDIC to settle this. JPM already received a gift from the FDIC and now they want more! JPM paid 1.8B and guess what? JPM feels they are entitle to several billions of dollars in NOL’s and other warrants because they purchased a solvent bank per their own admission in court. This equals no cost to JPM for free property and huge gains. The only loser is common and preferred share holders. What Rosen is trying to do is shield the corruption within the current BOD’s from future prosecution. The FDIC just threw Rosen under the bus and I ready too see the street sweeper clean his POS POR up.
I agree, but information is his ammo. Rosen is holding back key documents and feeding him crap. I hope the Judge recognize this from the EC Objection and penalize and reprimand this prick.
I agree. Rosen stated in court on 5 May they had 7 million pages and in the EC objection they stated 30 thousand pages. What is Rosen hiding?
Didn’t Rosen mention 7 million pages 5 May? EC objection stated 30,000 pages.
Bottom line up front nobody gets along. Don’t be a gold fish swimming with sharks. Do your own DD and come to a reasonable conclusion. Be careful, look out and conduct research that put you in a position to make $. Everything ends IMO. Common logic say’s you swim with sharks you’ll be eating alive. Good luck to you and what’s for dinner? ZVTK 10Q/8Q. Chomp, chomp.
Well I can agree with that because if a painting from an Asia elephant can fetch several thousands of dollars what the hell. I want numbers, I want results, I want an honest release and I want too know what is the next step in recovery of assets. SHOW ME the progress and the next step. Investor’s minds needs assurance.
Well an original Picasso painting is worth a lot of money.
I stand corrected. Thanks you for pointing that out. EOM
Well that is better information than you have been putting out with all your DD.
The movement to OTCBB board which is an upgrade. Give it 4 days for MM’s to come online.
The bottom line up front is the current 10Q coming out 17 May 2010 will not reflect the current/true value of ZVTK. It will only capture a small percentage of the larger picture to come. For the day traders/flippers this is a great opportunity to make some coin. For the true long position IMO this is a great opportunity to make some serious cash. Coin or Cash the decision is yours. MM’s especially NITE go F yourself this baby will move on demand itself.
Don’t allow anyone to influence, persuade or manipulate your decision. It’s your hard earn cash and the decision is yours alone. Some time we win some time we lose.