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I used to read Retired's posts here, and just added the #1 membermark to the person/moniker I knew ....this does sadden me... I'm so sorry to hear this news(:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/profile.asp?user=33561
Like the pictures....appreciate it....puts a face to my investment!
But I think this is pretty unusual for shorters to face this many "free riders".
....a truer statement couldn't have been stated, and this free rider is going to jump in the fray for some more...lol....greed grows:)
yup, they badly want those .0005 shares...lol...think I'll compete with them for those shares:)
NEON gappage looks pretty healthy, might be limted time on pullbacks below .10
NEOM/SAIC/now INTEL, and NEOM is below .06, this was a .20 stock before mm's crushed it....should get mighty interesting now
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040621/215385_1.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NEOM.OB
AMUC, looks like its in the beginning stages of its move....nice
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=AMUC
Colleen, I wouldn't underestimate the bullrider...lol...could be quite the rumble in the jungle....btw, is this a H&W swingin thing....rotflmao
a positive, yet balanced view of CMKX....and the potential all posters on this board realize CMKX has
By: schmedrick
17 Jun 2004, 10:09 PM EDT
Msg. 309867 of 317223
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**** CMKX Analysis Update ****
Overall it was a pretty good day today, we had two choices, the MM's could have run it big or they could have stayed in the corner swinging, and we all know what they chose to do. This should come as no surprise because if they are covering, and I believe they are, then they will cover at the lowest point they can and start to move up when the lower level of stock become exhausted. The volume today was about 60% of what our big days have been, and the price actually went up, gee, imagine that.
Based on the the PR we got last night, it would be more than fair to assume the MM's have firmly gotten the message, but I believe they knew it was coming about two weeks ago or more. I think they played around with this stock for the last two weeks and made money going up and down. By reading the language in the PR last night it would probably also be fair to assume that UC is getting more than a little irritated with these guys and decided to sick Roger on them, big time, and that is just what he did.
Now, assuming that Roger is competent, and there's no question in my mind that he is, the MM's know the jig is up on this stock, and they need to start making good, and I believe that is exactly what we're seeing now. Roughly as ZenInvestor32 had put it "a slow and orchestrated covering is happening", I believe Zen hit the nail right on the head. We will need a couple more days of trading to be sure the accumulation by the MM's will continue, but what we should start seeing is the stock gaining strength in price while volume decreases. This may sound counter intuitive but if you think about it, you slowly start to filter out all the volume the MM's are generating by covers and whatnot, and we are pretty much left with the majority of trades as buys from retail and/or possibly larger investors.
In addition to that, if the MM's know they are going to get hammered sooner or later and they are still very short, they will continue to drive the price up themselves because there is simply no more stock to be had at these levels. Once we can confirm this is indeed what is happening, then you will see the true beginning of a powerful short squeeze. I believe we are already seeing the beginning because it's up from .0001 and steadily gaining strength. Eventually it will begin to rapidly accelerate depending on how short they are, how much time they have left before they get called on the carpet, and which one of them reaches their panic levels. If everything comes together properly and the MM's do start to hit their panic levels, this thing will really begin to move in a hurry, but everything has to happen in the right sequence. So far it's looking like it is.
I listened to Joel's interviews the last few days, and this man is very articulate, knowledgeable and well spoken in public forums, IMO, the guy is a Pro. He knows this business, and he knows what the potential of CMKX is. The arguments that Joel makes are so clear and definitive, I'd like to see anyone challenge what he said as preposterous. UC has mineral rights to 1.4 million acres surrounding DeBeers, and DeBeers has proven the claims they have contain diamonds, and their claims are mineable. That alone should tell all of us that UC has pretty much cornered the market in Fort ala Corne, it's simply a law of averages, possession is 9/10 of the law. Joel was exactly right in almost everything he said, although I have some disagreements in his comparison of CMKX to KAI's stock price to ours because the O/S of KAI is far lower than ours, but Joel was simply making a point that KAI has dug nothing out of the ground and look at their stock price compared to ours, and he's absolutely right about that point.
The other thing I noticed today was the 8-K filed by UCAD, it is interesting to me that they failed to mention who their new accountants are. Typically but not always, when a company files an 8-K releasing their accountants, they also mention who their new accountants are going to be. A little bit of speculation could be added in here, UCAD has the same TA as CMKX, and there were the JV meetings going on up in Canada on the 16th. We know the majority of the players involved in the JV meetings, but we don't know if there were more than was mentioned, it's possible there were more and we didn't hear about them. If one were to reach out and speculate a little bit here, you could piece together a merger between CMKX and UCAD, it is fairly possible that UCAD's new accountant will be the same accountant as CMKX, wouldn't that be interesting?
And last, I'm going to get on my soapbox again and reiterate how important I think it is that we have Edwards & Angell on board. It appears that there is a lot of work to be done on the company's compliance to become fully reporting and more importantly the share structure. However, given the JV meetings happening this week, and what Joel had mentioned about the size of our claims, and us surrounding DeBeers, I still firmly believe that Roger was brought in for more than just to take the company to another exchange. The most logical choice from here would be the OTCBB however, notice in all of the PR's that have been released, there has never been any mention of what exchange they are talking about. Yes I know Melvin has talked about the OTCBB but remember, Melvin has also said that he doesn't know everything that is going on. Again, the most logical choice is the OTCBB, but there is no conclusive evidence to support it as of yet. A higher exchange is still not out of the question here.
These are just my personal thoughts and opinions.
Good Luck to Everybody, it should be getting more and more interesting every day from here on out!
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=317224
get ready: my impression is things are ratcheting up in intensity, and so activity like that usually is followed by some kind of movement in stock price
omg, this is one smackdown I wouldn't want to miss....rotflmao
now if that pair had been on Simpson's dream team, I doubt anybody would have paid much attention to those black gloves
rotflmao
Frank, aren't you a NITE MM...lol...I mean, there's no speculation about that, is there? This is probably a tad obvious on the slant, don't you think....I need those doublemint twins ASAP....rotflmao
quit playing Matt...lol...not buying this for a minute, given "most-read" boards....lol...Happy Father's Day, for the ones you don't know about...lol
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/top_boards.asp
certainly one possible scenario...lol
Thank you Ms. Rhode Island...lol
Posted by: Archangel
In reply to: Lownumba who wrote msg# 28716 Date:6/20/2004 9:09:38 AM
Post #of 28717
I'm a big believer in the power of market forces, both in inflationary and deflationary times....I'm not an advocate of manipulation or deceit....I like the middle of the oreo cookie as opposed to the top and bottom....much of what is going on here (the CMKX iHub board) typifies the struggle between opposing forces in the marketplace, but there's still the top and bottom of the cookie that's being posted here....where any one individual poster falls in that scheme of things is again a personal choice....I'm going to give Shell one kudo, and that is discipline, I told her/him early on to not post to me, and that has been respected to a tee, so smart on Shell for that!
Arch
I'm a big believer in the power of market forces, both in inflationary and deflationary times....I'm not an advocate of manipulation or deceit....I like the middle of the oreo cookie as opposed to the top and bottom....much of what is going on here (the CMKX iHub board) typifies the struggle between opposing forces in the marketplace, but there's still the top and bottom of the cookie that's being posted here....where any one individual poster falls in that scheme of things is again a personal choice....I'm going to give Shell one kudo, and that is discipline, I told her/him early on to not post to me, and that has been respected to a tee, so smart on Shell for that!
my response to prior post
Posted by: Archangel
In reply to: A deleted message Date:6/20/2004 8:59:46 AM
Post #of 34164
can't tell the extent to which this may be the case here, but I'm re-posting it to Corner as well, because it's an observation that at a minimum deserves preservation
- another observation is the appearance of the Shell at or around the time the company retained the securities firm - my guess is they were well aware of the "shell" game
- yet another observation is the huge "buybacks" announced by the company....frankly I'd never seen anything like it on the OTCBB, and to do it in such a public fashion and then hire the firm, at leasts lends itself to the possibility of what gody surmises
Arch
Posted by: oceantradewinds
In reply to: None Date:6/20/2004 3:03:22 AM
Post #of 34159
JANICE AND HER "SHELL GAME"
I'd like to make all readers aware of one of the newer games being played by Market Makers, Shorts, Hedge Funds and others employing paid bashers. They get someone like Janice Shell who pretends she's fighting the scammers when in fact she is likely the scammer. What they do is take the side of the average investor being ripped off by a corporation and attack the company. What in fact they are really doing is trying to bring the stock price down to cover shorts or creating shorts, etc.
Beware because these people may seem reasonable or trustworthy but in my mind they are the lowest of the low. True that at times they are attacking "scam" companies but at other times they attack "legitimate" companies and they do it for their own benefit and not yours! They don't really care that the company is ripping you off they only want the price lower so they can benefit.
CMKX is the largest claim holder on what will soon be the world's richest diamond find - the mother of motherlodes!
can't tell the extent to which this may be the case here, but I'm re-posting it to Corner as well, because it's an observation that at a minimum deserves preservation
- another observation is the appearance of the Shell at or around the time the company retained the securities firm - my guess is they were well aware of the "shell" game
- yet another observation is the huge "buybacks" announced by the company....frankly I'd never seen anything like it on the OTCBB, and to do it in such a public fashion and then hire the firm, at leasts lends itself to the possibility of what gody surmises
easy big boy, don't think you're out of jail all that long....lol
check here under level 2 heading....
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=474
also might ask omnitrader
becoming more and more convinced as I read thru this thread and the level of interest CMKX has generated, to include the known postings of mm's, that we are on the cusp of something quite extraordinary here....I truly hope any rewards reaped won't mean the death knell for others, but I just don't know........
read thru it when released, didn't see an immediate connection to CMKX, other than we know the companies are intertwined in business
more like run AMUC....lol....>>>>>>>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040619/ap_on_re_us/leaping_gorilla_5
I wouldn't be here if I didn't smell rocket fuel, JP-4, nitro, etc...LOL
Jawz, here's a post from what I'd call a B-level short, B level because the knowledge base is a little off kilter...lol....yet still somewhat effective in instilling doubt...I'd only tip my hat out of respect for the gender, not for the method of presentation...lol
ex-dividend date is 2 days before record date, which is significant...lol
Posted by: Susie924
In reply to: None Date:6/19/2004 10:36:20 AM
Post #of 33780
I got hit on the head with a magic wand yesterday and it has gotten me thinking.
There is always a gimmick with penny stocks.
At one point...a company would declare a spinoff where the shareholder would get X amount of shares of another stock for every share of the main stock that they owned. Leading up to the date of the dividend there would be a buying frenzy! The smart people would sell just before the dividend date because inevitably the price of the main stock would then plummet and the dividends usually prove to be worthless.
Another gimmick that worked for awhile was the old forward split announcement. People like to think that they can get more of something for free so that type of PR usually would also result in a buying frenzy and sometimes the price of the stock would absolutely fly!
After awhile both of these scenarios fizzled out. Many people realized what would happen and the old dividend and forward split scenarios didn't have as much pop as they once did.
CMKX seems to be trying a new strategy. I guess we can call it the "PR before the weekend" strategy. It seems to have worked twice to get people in such a frenzy that the stock would gap up on Monday.
Was last night's PR supposed to do the same? I can't imagine that it is necessary to announce that they had shut down the message board. This warranted a PR?
I bought CMKX knowing that there were many red flags but as each day goes by the red is getting brighter and brighter.
Last night's PR was a little one but some of the scenarios that I have seen it being twisted into are truly Twilight Zone material.
my response to Jawz
Posted by: Archangel
In reply to: A deleted message Date:6/19/2004 10:26:07 AM
Post #of 33779
Jawz, if this is indeed true, you also know that shorts max gain is usually quite limited (to use options as an example, their gain is limited to the premium paid for the short), and longs, when strong, prevail in the end*.....that's a fact.....now as for the method employed for shorts to reach their objective, I have always advocated that I don't approve of that form of persuasion, hence the reason for my moniker. I firmly believe that as much as presentable facts on pink sheet companies can be set forth....lol...that should occur and market forces are a tug and pull from there based on what is believed. My only suggestion re your post is use your knowledge of the industry as your weapon of choice, because where shorts really earn their keep is in the method of the spin, and what I believe they realize foremost (the smart ones, anyway...lol) is "attack" is the cheapest, easiest, yet least effective form of persuasion.
*again, using options as an example, the long, or buyer's potential gain, is unlimited, because theoretically, the stock can go up infinitum
btw, click on my moniker and you will see I've preserved the text portion of your post to the Corner....best regards & trading to you:)
Arch
Jawz, if this is indeed true, you also know that shorts max gain is usually quite limited (to use options as an example, their gain is limited to the premium paid for the short), and longs, when strong, prevail in the end*.....that's a fact.....now as for the method employed for shorts to reach their objective, I have always advocated that I don't approve of that form of persuasion, hence the reason for my moniker. I firmly believe that as much as presentable facts on pink sheet companies can be set forth....lol...that should occur and market forces are a tug and pull from there based on what is believed. My only suggestion re your post is use your knowledge of the industry as your weapon of choice, because where shorts really earn their keep is in the method of the spin, and what I believe they realize foremost (the smart ones, anyway...lol) is "attack" is the cheapest, easiest, yet least effective form of persuasion.
*again, using options as an example, the long, or buyer's potential gain, is unlimited, because theoretically, the stock can go up infinitum
btw, click on my moniker and you will see I've preserved the text portion of your post to the Corner....best regards & trading to you:)
Posted by: jawz_2020
In reply to: kmgreensman who wrote msg# 33617 Date:6/19/2004 8:51:42 AM
Post #of 33771
Because this board for BASHERS! that's why!!
{"Why are our posts getting deleted? Everytime someone comes back at one of the bashers, WHAM it's deleted. I wonder how long this one will last before it gets zapped. Janice can bash away but anytime someone asks her a question. YOURE OUT OF HERE! WHAT'S UP"}
Don't you get it?
NITE is short bazillions of shares THAT DO NOT EXIST !!!
The Wall Street Journal has documented that 40% if the ENTIRE MONTHLY TRADING VOLUME BY NITE was in this single pink sheet stock, CMKX. maybe becaue they have been NAKED SHORT SELLING COUNTERFEIT SHARES out the wazoo - approaching 400 BILLION shares IMHO.
Then - shazaam! SURPRISE!! SURPRISE!!
CMKX NOT GONNA GO BROKE AFTER ALL!!
Now NITE has to cover all those bazillions of shares they sold - probably to Urban Casavant who buying back shares the whole time to retire asd many as possible!
That's why Urban took the company PINK, so he could BUY BACK shares without being compelled to report all his insider stock transactions to the MMs, DeBeers, and anybody else that wanted him out of business!!
So NITE starts a board to BASH CMKX to get Longs to SELL
all you hear here are DOUBT, FEAR, POISON.
MALICIOUS SLANDER, CHARACTER ASSASSINATION, and DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER. Assertions presented as if they are facts. Saying that RUMORE have been "proved" to be "FALSE" (SIC) merely because they have NOT YET been provrd to be TRUE.
Janice Shell has been exposed by the Chicago Tribune as a STOCK BASHER
That's another name for engaging in a STOCK MANIPULATION SCHEME WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW although these DECEIVERS hide behind the first ammendment.
JAUDICED SHILL AND A VERITABKE ARMY OF BASHERS FOR HIRE - PAID FOR BY NITE TRADING, MAKE THIS THERE HOME.
Mariner_007 who runs the board has said HERE that CMKX is DISHONEST, and "spins a "vision of blindness and illusion." (HIS words!)
AND HE IS THE BOARD ADMINISTRATOR !!!
SO OF COURSE, HE LEAVES UP BASHER POSTS AND DELETES THOSE POINTING OUT WHAT I AM HERE.
JUST WATCH THIS POST WILL DISSAPPEAR VERY SOON
MAKE A NOTE OF ITS NUMBER - YOU WILL NOT SEE IT LATER.
WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED? HUH??
come to shortsharks if you want a board that has not been BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY NITE TRADING
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/shortsharks/
see <links> once you get there.
jawz_2020
take it in stride and be prepared for more....feelings run strong on this company....me, I'm along for the ride...lol
CMKX/.0007, the news of aggressive action by the firm should bode well for long players here
it's a good open, little bit of a recovery day for CMKX today
...weaker hands have moved on, or are looking for a new entry...lol
King Kong has giant stones.....lol
neb, all things considered, we're in a pretty tight trading pattern at a sub-sub level....the mm's are certainly working this to help themselves out of a jam....tenths of a penny are where we will really see some jockeying around....I'm enjoying this immensely....I'm been getting some pretty vile pm's, something I view as a positive sign that nervousness abounds.....LOL
or JUST MY DUMB OPINION....rotflmao
lol....yep, that's how I read this too....it's getting pretty hot, and some of the pm's I'm getting smack of anger....I'm sorry, but there was plenty of opportunity to buy and hold a wad at .0001....now .0006 is the wager for this poker hand....lol
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/top_boards.asp
lol....Bill...I'm laughing because you point to the last sub-sub penny company that hired a top gun to resolve securities and corporate issues faced by the company....what do you think those securities issues might be....that language is very intriguing
things are going to get mighty interesting as this plays out....I'll refrain from further comment but watch with keen interest on negative posting levels....lol
yes sir ".........the company has begun working actively with D. Roger Glenn of Edwards & Angell, which it earlier retained, in connection with securities and corporate issues faced by the company...."