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Ok but your missing my point. Why would anyone sit down for settlement talks when they have one potential chip left in Arris maybe getting accepted for a review. I am very doubtful it gets accepted for review and even if it does they still have very slim chances of getting anything changed due to prior declarations. However there is no need to sit down for settlement talks just yet if they still have plenty of time to figure out what happens with that review.
If that is the case, you don't think they will wait for the Arris review decision before sitting down to negotiate?
Well 3mil + shares just went into strong hands for over $30k. I'm wondering if the MM's will back off now for a little coming to a realization or who do we see next. Very good action today early. Finally building a base over a penny I think.
This is what i'm wondering and its very interesting. Although I don't know standard procedure, it just doesn't make sense to me.
It got bought... Over $30k smack
Oh there you go they pressed it back down to .01 selling off another couple hundred thousand in the process... They really don't care to take losses here I guess
And then look at that... Literally every single share they had at .01 yesterday they have out at .012 now. I got a feeling that wont last long because its showing signs of weakness
Wow look at the movement from tiny volume. Crazy what happens when these short positions back off
Good post. Like i stated prior nice to see you here. Been in a couple plays with you that worked out pretty nice.
Yeah funny everybody swears the short report is bogus because some shorts just get on boards and say that nobody shorts otc and those short reports are bs... Meanwhile we have the SEC mandating a requirement for short positions to be reported too funny lol. Thanks for keeping the short report updated scruffer we appreciate you
Never a bad idea to maybe make these MMs back off some on their huge short position and start covering. But if your willing to wait until their settlement/buyout or court then the daily action and share price shouldn't worry you too much. Just hold until we get there or flip at your own risk but as i've been saying it's very hard to pick up shares unless your buying at ask.
Yeah they have a large short position... They are holding their short position from the .003-.006 range still maybe. They shorted a ton of shares at .002 which I would assume they might have covered by now, but then shorted tons of shares at .003-.005 and some in the .006 level as well. So there is a very good reason for them to keep putting out these large ask walls. It's really ridiculous that it's legal for them to just keep borrowing millions and millions of shares to dump out constantly, there should at the very least be a time frame when they have to buy the shares back.
Yeah it could be a little dead period right now because CDEL and the other MM at .01 yesterday were successful... It might cause some weaklings to sell smaller positions but I don't think large position holders are ready to give it all up because of a little slow down in volume after the huge month we have had. There are events coming up to throttle this into high bases soon so good luck flipping and getting your position back. Really tough getting shares right now unless you hit the ask. The float is very very tight right now
Wow that is insane but i was kind of suspicious that over 50% of the shares sold today were shorted... That just means there is gonna be a huge short squeeze soon. Tons of buying today i imagine atleast 25 percent of the vuys were shorts covering because rhere has been a lot of shorting lately. But this is setting up to be huge. The mms are gonna try hard to press it down bit they are digging themselves deeper
Very good analysis. Thats why i think a potential buyout candidate could be paying a couple tens of thousands to a hundred thousand to save millions due to market cap staying down and keeping his negotiation leverage down some
The bad part is we have tons of volume that drives it 30% in the green. But tiny little volume drives it bacm down to about even on the day because the bid support backs off after seeing the shorting mms on the ask for millions
I think from the information we have backing it all up right now the bare minimum is a .35 valuation... And thats just from the case against the cable giants and thats a very lowball valuation but also setting the lowest bar in mu opinion. But i dont think many people are being scared into selling today i think honestly these MMs have sold the majority of the shares moved today... So i think we are very tightly locked still right now showing the confidence everyone has behind this case
Lol dont you love the games played here? Doesnt matter these guys will go bankrupt trying to short this. They better hope theyve already bought all their short position back by the time that news comes out. The games here are kind of funny because they don't lesrn their lesson ever.
OFcourse they asked for a jury trial... That's how settlements happen lol wow... Settlements are encouraged by the judge before trial actually happens so that it can be resolved out of court. However, settlements aren't always reached because big corporate giants like these cable companies lowball the patent owners... In this case they would be wise to minimize their losses and pay up out of court. All of the events are lining up right now to be huge for UOIP and thats why we are seeing more volume and price gains lately because day by day we acquire more eyes and people are realizing what this should really be worth.
I'm really curious if that is CDEL at .01? Anyone on L2? If so they are really playing with fire here because they could get seriously hurt if they keep playing games. Already shorted for millions at the .008 level. And I know they shorted in the .005-.007 range for millions as well... If the cap blows off again they could be looking at huge losses when they have to buy back. Idk why they are taking that risk when they have been squashed at 4 or 5 different levels now... Doesn't make sense unless ofcourse they are being funded from outsiders which would be very interesting. Usually when there are times of uptick the MM's back off atleast until they see some resistance.
You can't flip this successfully for the past month... There has been no significant moves downward since the spikes of life showing about a month ago... It's been a consistent climb up every day with a couple red days that were only like down 5%-8%... Everything else has been 5-25% days. I love the volume and push today early. Hopefully we can close somewhere around a penny or a little over. Really early yet but we have the volume to get through that 1 cent wall fairly easy its probably CDEL again I would assume. They went into the weekend with a large short position so they are going to have to buy those shares back again soon anyways.
Here you go lol... The new share structure changes thing jbbb as I can see you don't understand.
CDEL likely has big short position they are trying to minimize the loss for... They are going into the weekend short and will get crushed if this continues to move next week. I love to see MM's get hammered personally so yeah it sucks for our SP right now but we will be just fine. Almost every share sold today was .0080 - .0085... Stronger hands getting a hold of shares and we are already locked up for the most part. CDEL is going to get hurt here though.
Well even if it is just to fight a previous decision then that is great too because it shows Billy's lawyers aren't giving any ground and aren't going to let them get anything shut down and let them get any leverage at all. We want full damages paid in full. The lawyers and Carter know how big this is because otherwise they would have already settled to collect their millions and walk away. But they are letting the process take it's course to get the full value. That's not what a "patent troll" does.
Yeah this makes a lot of sense. Because that might open the door for Arris to get their reviews accepted due to the fact that they haven't had their shot. But at the same time they had plenty of time to file their own appeal and never did because they figured Cisco was doing their dirty work for them why get involved. Soon we will be after them too, lets just take a couple steps at a time and get money in the bank.
Yeah mine was yesterday lol thanks brother
The events in favor for this ticker lately have been crazy. Nobody really even talked about the Oil States decision which basically was a declaration by the federal courts that they would start using the PTAB as a standard in patent litigation, meaning the PTAB is their go to as a reference in any patent litigation case. Being that 2 of our 3 patents are ruled patents by the PTAB we are in really good shape going to court in December being that only 20% of all patents taken to the PTAB process are deemed patents. Now we have filed against Cisco, and Comcast put in a subpoena for Arris and Cisco, and finally the VP of Comcast giving a deposition recently. A lot of updates will be coming out to fortify this process even further and it will be hard to get any shares under a penny very very soon.
This is awesome... filed against Cisco on my birthday. What better gift could I have asked for.
No earnings because it's not a functional business, it's a shell that is in a lawsuit for potentially huge amounts of money due to their ownership of a patent on a product that is used by all the major cable companies.
UOIP is delinquent so there is not much information to be found besides government documents updating us on the trial process as they are in a lawsuit with 13 huge cable companies that are all infringing on their patents. The cable companies have been found to been infringing since 2011 and that equals over 6 years in infringement that has become willful since the patents have held up in PTAB reviews. Their patents have held up in PTAB multiple times under review by tech giant Cisco(who is scared they will be liable for infringement as they sold the tevh to the cable companies) and also RPX(a hired gun by Cisco to get further reviews done). The cable companies recently subpeonaed Arris and Cisco because they know at this point the review processes are not going to help their case so they want Cisco and Arris to be held accountable as well going forward. Trial is set to begin in December of this year and the revenues made off this tech could be in the 10s of billions. The market cap at current prices is under 15 million whereas we could see a settlement or buyout in the billions. There is very little exposure on this ticker because neither side in the case cares to publicly announce the circumstance as UOIP could care less if you get in on their rewarded monies and the cable companies for obvious reasons - they dont want bad PR in their names. The levels we are at now all the way up to .05 and even higher are good buy levels. However if your going to invest I would be ready to hold for 6 months to a year at the least in order to maximize gains and maximize your chance at being here for a settlement or buyout.
We are doing great right now so what do you mean if we want to see it rocket we must provide you information? If you want to see gains in your account its probably a good idea to do research yourself on the board and go through posts... Not advise someone to give you all of the details of each ticker you stop in to check out. However if you read and have questions then we would be glad to clue you in. But there is tons of information to read as a newcomer. If you want to find out about UOIP start reading then ask questions.
Yeah I'd have to agree its retail because I think MM's know to back off right now. And its extremely dangerous to short right now especially if it closes .0080+ going into a weekend with nice volume. But yeah volume is good just doesn't make sense people think they can flip it how its been traded over last 3 weeks now. I think today will be a good day closing above .008 with nice volume and new eyes on in over weekend... Should start scaling our exposure at this point tbh
I wonder who is selling into the bid like that? Interesting... Can't be MM's imo they have to take the L on their short position going into the weekend already because they couldn't cover all week unless they are digging a deeper hole trying to salvage and losses they can.
Yeah the sellers here are gonna feel just like the sellers in the 40s 50s and 60s for the past week lol... This thing is nowhere near where it will get to over the next couple months these are the early stages and we already have people trying to flip but can't get their shares back... Look at what a couple thousand dollars does to the price when its being bought up. The a couple sellers come out and knock out bid support but they will be ashamed for selling very soon just as all those millions sold in 40s and 50s
If these "Market Maker Signals" are realistic then the communications they are sending back and forth are funny to watch. At open one MM buys 300 shares at ask (300 share blocks are known to mean take the stock down or I will in order to load shares). Then a 200 block comes in at the ask (200 share blocks are known to mean I need shares really bad but do not take the stock down)... It's all theory but if there is any merit to it then it's funny to see them beg each other for certain actions.
No he didn't sell and even if he did he has that right as he bought them bro you should be upset even if he did. If we all feel like this will fall some due to MM action and can get them lower some people will take that risk and sell to buy lower. We all trade differently. And obviously Tony is big time on this stock I don't see him just pumping it because he has been following the news wire just like we have. Regardless fact of the matter is we are invested here because we believe in the case and what UOIP brings to the table so what anyone else thinks doesn't matter. Just hold onto your shares unless you feel like its worth the risk to flip.
Yeah I have friends who wanted me to scoop shares up for them on my broker because their money was all tied up in a broker who didn't allow trading for UOIP. So I know even now there are certain brokers who do not allow you to trade OTC tickers with stop sign on them because they consider it to be way too volatile and risky.
Exactly because if there was something very fishy or shady going on with UOIP and some brokers made it untradeable but others didn't change their trading status(TD AMERITRADE) then those brokers who didn't take action and continued to let people dump money into a scam would be highly scrutinized for not taking action like they should have.
Yeah daily action doesn't matter at this stage in the dates leading up to trial... It's nice to see green in our accounts but it doesn't matter because we all know where it's really headed.
There hasn't been much buying pressure, so ofcourse the bid will drop... It's only been staying up because the float is basically locked, but now the MMs got a hold of it and are scaring some people. Thats why no volume brings it down so much.