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Yes, I am long and remain so. Have not yet sold a share because this IS a potential 10+ bagger. As I disclosed my positions in a previous post, my 35,000 hsares will not get me to the Millionaire's club anytime soon, but i do stand to make a few bucks :) 20,000 are in mt Roth IRA and I do not' plan on playing with that too much - set there for the longer term.
I also am not going into this blind. If and WHEN we ink some revenue bearing deals, this will spike up nicely.
Virgin will be key, then AirClick/ScanBuy [?], then who knows? Buyout by a biggie?
Is there a 4th catagory? Like some of us waiting for CONFIRMATION of the potential of the patents?
Potential, tangential inferences and TS teasers will take us only so far. Yes, things are lining up fairly well right now, but at some point, there MUST be something to solidify further gains. This stuff has been around for a couple of years now and some actual proceeds bearing deals need to be inked, etc.
must just be me.
still can't get there.
Anyone having the same trouble as me in getting to th3e NEOM press page on their web site? I can get to the NEOM site, just not the Press releases page. HMMM.
Hardball, good point on the spam thing. Now, I suppose JimLur's anti-Corp post is considered ...?
Other than Childish, that is.
I am NOT dismissing this notion at all. The 'adult entertainment' industry is HUGE HUGE. Download a videoclip/movie via PC. This is far from a new concept with NEOM. Just another application - Just as big as the coupon thing. Maybe bigger.
I just happened onto 'by accident' and was amazed to see NEOM listed under that catagory. But on further replection, I would tend to think we need to get multiple listings/catagorizations.
JP, they have NEOM listed as or catagorized as "Adult Entertainment".
http://www.w2forum.com/viewcompany/neomedia_technologies_inc
We probably need a recatagorization.
JP thanx, but I will not be able to get to Vegas any time soon. I would rather you put those dollars toward the stock. BTW, and you will just have to trust me on this, I can EAT A LOT for dinner.
EXCELLENT Post. Sometimes I wonder if a few are not High School graduates yet.
Folks, Let's end this fued stuff and disparaging comments on being a basher, subtle or otherwise, and stay working on bringing some DD to EVERYONE.
I apologize to JP for starting the whole thread. I thought he made a mistake, called, and hit one of his nerves, then he hit one of mine, and...you all know the rest of the story. I got aggressive, sarcastic and defensive on a few things.
I think I know where he stands on this as an investment and I AGREE WITH HIM. HUGE possibilities here and that is why I am here. For all those that think I am running a new chapter or something from the bashers handbook, you will just have to trust me when I say that this notion couldn't be farther from the truth. [Even tho this type statement is in the handbook?]
Someone said or implied that I bought high and was 'not pleased'. Well somewhat true. I posted I bought 5000 in the 57 area. Not a secret. However, I made a mistake - it was .5877. I also bought NEOM:
On 17 DEC 04 .2245 5000
On 07 APR 05 .2526 5000
in the same account.
For my ROTH ACCT:
On 26 NOV 04 .1497 14,000
On 07 APR 05 .2535 6000
for that account
For my kid's ROTH:
On 13 APR 05 .3626 2500
I have not yet sold ANY of these shares. That is my disclosure. The per share price includes commissions. But as anyone can see, I am sitting on a nice lettle gain and would have tagged this puppy in the 70's if that was my interest - to hit and run or 'bash' to buy low. You will have to trust me when I say that I do NOT have the financial capabilities to try to manipulate stocks anmd i really wouldn't know even where to sign up to get paid to be a basher. Is there a web site or something? I still have a day job and no time to post in the middle of the day except when I am taking a vacation day, as today.
My interest is in the possibilities - the dream [for now] - of WordRegistry/PaperClick as they can affect my pocketbook for a little longer haul than 7 months or so - maybe 3-5 years, who knows but definitely more than 1 year [to avoid ST cap gains]. I am of the belief that one of the best ways to unleash the value is thru the buyout, as I have posted before. That is me just being realistic in the absence of other solid data. I think this does have potential, but who really knows? This IS a speculative stock and I have made my bet.
I am not going to get to the millionaire's club or anything, but I do want top make a few bucks too.
BUT, I also am a realist and think there is more hype than fact right now. I do like the development of folks to work the marketing side, billings, etc., without the company ramping up staff too much - the 'virtual corporation' concept at work to some extent.
As some of you know, I do not necessarily agree with Airpocket, but he has stimulated some thought and for that, we should all be a little thankful. [Just a little]
AirPocket has also implied some hanky panky with the NEOM/NextCode deal. I do not know right now if there is anything sinister or not, but I'm sure we will all check it out [some have already started]. That is just prudent with your investments. And being a realist, I try not to subscribe to unsubstantiated claims as tho they were fact. I owe it to myself to check it out. When I am satisfied either way on the research, that particular position will have more, or less, credibility, depending on the outcome.
To those that gave serious, unemotional, anmd public consideration to my posts, my thanx. You know who you are.
OK, last free post for the day and now getting ready to spend a long weekend in Chicago [even tho I continue to lurk].
Have a good weekend all.
hardball, thanx for your very cogent response to terps. Couldn't have said it better. I read his last and all I do was shake my head.
Nicmar - Apparently a lot actually did vote - about 51 million shares or so? Someone can validate that number [or not]. But I am still wondering about the total vote disparity
between BOD and prop 2. Maybe "abstain" was not a voting choice?
OT: Saving my last free post of the day for the NEOM board.
lets_go_terps,l you are absolutely correct in that I cannot refute facts. Problem is that you have a difficult time in ascertaining facts - that is, you have not presented "FACTS".
Bulldzr called you on your "facts" and we can simply let that stand. Thanx Bulldzr.
But what I said also is that they have just rearranged the titles and eliminated some of management. Merritt was already part of management and both RIP and Howard are gone. Technically, you are correct, management has changed - except there is nobody new in management that was not there before. We found out we don't really need a COO and Merritt is in this - as part of the management team - up to his eyeballs simply moved his desk to the big corner office with all the good windows. Please, the radical shift from top management [Pres of the wholely owned subsidirary] to VERY top management [as CEO] hardly qualifies as a shakeup or anything else you were trying to imply - especially when there is nobody new in the building.
"That may be the most stupid thing I ever heard." Try this. Read your spew into a tape recorder, rewind, then push the "Play" button.
F6, [and L2V], First thanx for a civil and non-Sanctimonious response. I really do appreciate that. If what you say is true about being thru all this type stuff before, and I have no reason to doubt that, then I think I do understand where you are coming from. I just do not agree with it completely.
I did read your compendium of posts on this I suppose I need to understand more on how poisonous the poison pill really is, because your arguments rely on BOTH the pill and a stratified or classified board being in place and that when one [or the other] lynchpin is removed, all hell breaks out. It is my opinion that pills only protect management directly and we only get the protective 'crumbs' as a result - we get protected only if MGMT/BOD get ptotected. I don't think there is really much poison in them thar pills.
Perhaps we see this from different sides of the 'optimist vs. pessimist' mentality. My understanding is that you see that the non classified board will simply be [or be paid to be] lackeys and just roll over and give the company away - damn be the value. That is how I am understanding your arguments, so if this is a mischaracterization, my apologies.
IMO, however, EVERYONE will be there disecting any kind of bid and there will be all sorts of discussion on the value of IDCC and there will come a consensus of sorts on it. The shareholders will still have to approve or reject. Unless That is not correct - that there must be shareholder approval - then, I do not really see the worry, except to the extent that some believe the 'value' of the company is MUCH higher than it is. I think the value is much higher than it it now, as does probably every long. But few can place a realistic value on it that is too, too far divergent than the value placed on it by Mr. Marketplace. Perhaps I'm too altruistic, but the institutions are the guys that are allowing all this to happen as they put out the vote and THEY see this as good [or at least non threatening]. It certainly was not posters here following Cohen. In any event, the institutions apparently see this as an [optimistic] mechanism to unleash the value - not let it reside with the [greedy/selfserving/pick any word] Management/BOD by way of golden parachutes. The institutions are in it for the money as well and I'm confident THEY won't let it go for pennies on the dollar.
I think this pennies on the dollar fear is much ado about nothing. The sky is NOT falling. But we will see in the coming year and at the next ASM.
I seem to recall [but I cannot prove] that CorpGold opined on this issue way back in the RB days. His notion was that - yes, the company has tremendous potential value and if bought out, one should buy stock of the acquirer. Sage advice, I think. Anyway, I see the very act of making a takeout as one mechanism, a PROCESS to unlock the value. Bid, reject, another bidder, a bidding war, etc., whatever, the PROCESS of the TO WILL unlock the gate$ - IF there reqally IS value. If the last 6 years are any harbinger of the next 6, I hope and pray this DOES happen.
I just cannot agree with the notion that a newly hired BOD would just be able to give the company away in the manner feared by many here. Even tho small, we have had a day or two in the sun enough for this to be very public in any such type of manipulation.
OK, we may have to simply agree to disagree and as L2V said [I think] get off being digressed on anything but the NOK topic.
They have no new management, just rearranged the titles and eliminated some.
I don't think that is much of a "Skew"
but DOWN 26% in the last 6 months.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=IDCC&t=6m
Not so "stupid" as one might think.
Holy Hell, man, JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION.
Gees, I was going to drop the line and move on, but you seem intent on your CYA rant.
Please tell us how many products P&G has registered and how much revenue we got from them. If it is in the 10KSB or 10KSB/A, I have not been able to find anything on it. I can find lots of "fluff" PRs [you even posted the link and some of the text] that basically say that PC is available and will do wonderful things. But no mention of P&G PAYING us any CASH for signing up. NO mention of ANYONE paying yet. And the 20%stake? Only TS hype, perpetuated as 'fact' by many here as far as I can tell. "How much discussion has gone on here regarding P&G. How many have speculated that P&G may even be the Fortune-100 company WHO WILL BE [My emphasis] taking a 20% equity stake in NEOM?" A lot, but it appears that all TS has to do is throw out the notion and folks here treat it as FACT. Can anyone substantiate this FACT without referring to TS? Thought so.
I called you on your "Opined exuberance" and you lay out the old diatribe on how great this is GOING TO BE, substantiated by fluff only. I did not see the CITA video, but only the demos and links at www.neom.com. Yes, they portend great possibilities and potential. But they also showed someone price comparing a car, a box of noodles or something and buying a tickets to the Stones. Has GM or the Stones signed up or TicketMaster? If so, please HELP us ascertain the validity of any of this.
How many products does P&G have? 100,000 or so? Let’s use that. At $6,000 per, they are going to fork over $600,000,000 for PaperClick? I think not. Not even 10% of that - so that they can get a price comparing shopper to check to see if there is a 10 cent difference in price between Safeway and Kroger? On products that the consumers will probably purchase anyway? [P&G probably care less if Safeway sells or Kroger]. For the convenience of providing a recipe? Or content info? I think not.
"In the video, P&G has products that have actually been turned on. These products are live, and so is PC." OK, maybe so, but where are the revenues? Where is the press release touting this? Lots of fluff PR on the POTENTIAL, but what about the supposed ACTUAL? Nothing.
"Now would you reason that P&G lent NEOM those products because they were just nice guys? Or is it that they have their products demonstrated because they are an active roll-out particpant in PC?" Best I can tell so far is that they are nice guys.
"Read Woogers posts again. Read Success and KoKoNutGuy. Read the Pondering Primate. Read TS and John Batelle. These people understand. They get it!" GREAT! Knowledgeable posters with some FACTS? PUUHHLEASE!
Finally, "Know what you own man." Good point for us all. I think I do know what I own. I own a paint repair business line, a consulting arm and a dream of the next MSFT or GOOG, but still a dream - until there is rock solid evidence.
"I personally encourage you to go to Shareholders meetings, meet the people behind the scenes, watch the live demonstrations, ask questions, get involved and start doing your own DD and contributing rather than expecting to be given all the answers." Pretty good advice on the first half and I DO PLAN on going to Ft. Meyers next November, but if you equate perpetuation of hype as "contributing" I can only suggest a paradigm shift in your thinking. I am taking the gamble on a dream. I am willing to make the bet because I think it has a very good payoff potential. I even added 5,000 this past Tuesday at .57ish. I have e-mailed the company in an attempt to get more info on pricing, etc. [No response yet. Waiting 3 days now for even an acknowledgement of the communication - even if it is just a standard canned response telling me to go away or to get in contact with a 'strategic' partner.]
Question is do you really know what YOU own? Without all the fluff, that is.
So, before you get all sanctimonious on me, just put me on "Iggy". Or, post FACTS.
F6, OK, Shirley, it is YOU that seems disingenuous and has a lack of understanding on how these things work. But, since you know how all this works, please explain it to me [you know, the ignorant dumbass] so as to logically and unemotionally convey your point. Because right now, all I see from you is the 'follow the crowd' anti-takeover mantra, sans any explaination or justification. I seriously want to understand the 'pennies on the dollar' fears and understand the mentality of what seems to be a 'Us vs. Them' paradigm many seem to have on the subject.
Here's your chance [or anyone's - DannyD are you listening?] to 'splain it to me as to how a takeover fails to unlock all this value. Please try to denote what 'pennies on the dollar' actually means - that is, what is that dollar worth RIGHT NOW and what is it worth in say, 1 year.
Realistically, I don't even see an acquirer on the horizon, let alone the "dastardly" Cohen and his "hoard" ready to pounce on this stock. If anyone really wanted it they would have bid for it a long time ago.
AirPocket, you have sent me some stuff I can't get to about NEOM. It comes in my mailbox, but when I click on the post it seems to get re-routed. Apparently even tho you are posting it, when I click on the post it shows as someone else's post.
Just send me an E-Mail at: snowblow5@comcast.net
TIA.
My last just did. Ya, move on.
JP, I'm not looking to be pleased. I'm looking to get more educated on this. When I first saw your post, I thought you simply errored and meant partners as opposed to actual customers. I might have missed something germane to my investment pursuits.
Our little diatribe denigrated from there and that is not and was not my goal. Sorry if all this has pissed you off. I now simply understand your statement as opined exuberance.
Some are more well known than others. But,
Big Gig Strategies (United Kingdom) [I never heard of them till I found this board, but they may be well known and very strong],
SRP Consulting (United States) [I HAVE actually heard of these guys, but I have no idea of how good they really are],
AURA Digital Communications (Australia) [NEVER heard of 'em],
Relyco (United States)[NEVER heard of 'em],
E&I Marketing (Taiwan)[NEVER heard of 'em],
Deusto Sistemas (Spain)[NEVER heard of 'em],
Nextcode Corporation (United States)[NEVER heard of 'em], and
Jorge Christen and Partners LLP (Mexico)[NEVER heard of 'em].
Who are all these strong co-marketing partners?
I have to also admit that I am NOT up on the marketing industry for our type of product.
JP, with all due respect, that answer just doesn't cut it. In our DD pursuits, we must challenge and/or ferrett out the facts from the hype and the desires of us all.
You made what appears to be a "hype" statement about big companies lining up and signing up. I can understand if it is your opinion that it will happen. I think it will happen, too. But your post suggested it HAS happened, and that seems counter to your previous urgings for everyone to perform DD.
" Plain simple, PC is direct marketing. Search is well, generic and non-specific. The big Brand Partners know this and have begun lining up by signing up with NEOM." http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=6552372
So, if true, I'm sure we would have seen a PR on ANYONE that has actually signed. If not true, but just your opinion, then you either need to label it that way or write it in a manner so as not to denote it as fact. IMO.
As to the potential for this happening - I think the floodgates WILL open up in due course. I also think that the marketing of this is fairly weak as the co-marketing partners are companies I have never heard of. Not to say they are 'bad', just doesn't exude much strength or confidence that they can get it done. Just supports my takeout theory.
Danny Detail, my use of the term "dumbass" was in reference to someone else that referred to many that agreed with prop 2 as such. I did not mean to 'put those words in your mouth'. But, you are getting warm by trying to highlight our "IGNORANCE".
But please, first, I have to understand and reconcile some of your previous with regard to institutional control in managing BOD oversight. Now that some institutions have exercised some of this oversight, you disagree with it? That's fine, but apparently YOU now disagree with the same emotional type response as the rest of us. Being a former Wall St guru, surely you understand the cold cruel realities of takeovers - friendly OR hostile - much better than the rest of us emotional peons. Please educate me on this notion of "takeover on the cheap" as applies to IDCC. Lest I remain ignorant.
JP, do you have a link or anything showing who are all these companies that have signed? I checked the website and the SEC filings and the press releases and couldn't find anything showing we had paying users yet. Or did you mean the co-marketing deals?
TIA
F6, really? Surely you jest. I fail to see how prop 2 - voted on 2 June was an attempt to perform some kind of takeover manipulation BEFORE [your emphsis] NOK came in when WE ALL EXPECTED IT 2 DAYS before the NONBINDING vote. How do you come to that conclusion? If you mean for 3g, well, they have had several years and dozens of excuses - 'we're being sued', 'there is an indemnifyer out there somewhere and nobody will licsense with us', 'we had to fire Rip and Howard', 'the shareholders rejected our options grant raping of the treasury, 'NOK is being mean to us', 'were in economic/constructive/subtle/pick a word, discussions', and God knows what else.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened already, but to suggest that this is a, "completely vapid, empty and meaningless, indeed Orwellian, distraction and diversion of a concept to 'apply' to falsely label this situation" is a HUGE stretch. I would respectfully suggest that maintenance of the status quo is a, "completely vapid, empty and meaningless, indeed Orwellian, distraction and diversion of a concept to 'apply' to falsely label this situation."
Makes me want to pray that, "the next step will almost certainly be a campaign for the board, or failing the board for 'dissident' shareholders, to call/force the call of a special meeting of shareholders to vote on implementing the proposal, said special meeting presumably to be held before the end of this year -- where said next step will almost certainly begin sooner rather than later (if indeed it hasn't begun already)" actually is true.
IMO
TFWG:
4-Jun-03 CAMPAGNA, HARRY G.
Director 80,000 Direct Planned Sale $2,090,0001
5-Jun-033 CAMPAGNA, HARRY G.
Director 80,000 Direct Automatic Sale at $26.099 - $27.358 per share. $2,138,0002
21-Jan-04 CAMPAGNA, HARRY G.
Director 20,000 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) N/A
18-May-04 CAMPAGNA, HARRY G.
Director 15,000 Direct Automatic Sale at $15.8047 per share. $237,070
18-May-04 CAMPAGNA, HARRY G.
Director 15,000 Direct Planned Sale $237,000
28-Jun-04 CAMPAGNA, HARRY G.
Chairman 1,725 Direct Planned Sale $3241
28-Jun-04 CAMPAGNA, HARRY G.
Director 1,725 Direct Sale at $18.82 per share. $32,464
4-Feb-05 CAMPAGNA, HARRY G.
Director 10,000 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) N/A
From Yahoo! http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=IDCC
My math says he acquired 30,000 and sold 191,350 within the last 2 years. NET he sold 161,350.
I could be wrong.
nicmar, first, thanx for a civil and rational response.
However, I disagree that a buyout is short of realizing 'full value'. If IDCC is bought out, it will get the value it deserves in the marketplace at the time the transaction is made. No more, no less. Some entity will [hopefully] offer. We can accept or reject the bid. Maybe there are/will be multiple offerors. Maybe counteroffers, etc. Point is that unless there is a gun to our heads
The timing of any such notion has ALWAYS been discussed as "bad" with this company ever since I got into this stock [Apr 99]. I would have dearly LOVED a buyout offer round-about Dec 29, 1999 or so. And I dare say MANY MANY others would agree with that.
Anyway, here we are, 5-6 years later and still no unleashed 'mega-value' and the group that has taken us over already is... BOD/management! How much dilution have we suffered [or implictitly permitted] from...pick a date - mine is Apr 99. Loop and others reportedly are 20+ year veterans. How much dilution have they suffered in that time? [rmarchma, feel free to chime in with some data.] How much cash have they used in that time to buyback stock - that could otherwise have been spent on more R&D, acquiring other patents, paid out in dividends, or whatever other productive uses. All it really did was monetize the dilutive effect of options grants. But I digress. Takeover - put yourself in Tantivy's shoes. We took them over, yes? Do you think they realized 'full value' in the transaction? They probably would say no, but I say yes, as they were apparently unable to get the job done. IDCC offered, Tantivy accepted. Nobody held a gun to their heads. IDCC believed it could garner value and bought them out. [Hopefully we will send megamillions to our bottom line with the transaction in the not too distant future.] But in the same way we took out Tantivy, so too can someone take us out in THEIR attempt to unleash the full value. The problem we all have is that WE want that value, or our proportionate piece.
OK, the most difficult but simple answer is to ...
BUY OUT IDCC. That is, BUY MORE SHARES. Big fish eat little fish - irrefutable fact of [financial] life. Become a big fish and join the big fish because you can't hide from them for too long.
I submit that a buyout - or at least the credible threat of one - is PRECISELY the means to unleash value in the company. God knows it hasn't happened yet, but there are possibilities on the horizon. Those possibilities are what keep me in the stock. We unleash the value internally or it gets unleashed from external sources.
DannyDetail, Could you please clarify your meaning of the post? I really don't know what to make of the disparity in total vote on prop 2 as I would tend to believe voted shares would simply "abstain" as opposed to simply not making any vote selection.
BUT, I would also tend to think you would be ecstatic on the results of prop 2.
Are you? You don't sound like it, but I seem to recall back in Apr/May of last year you drafting a letter to management or the BOD on how the institutional investors should have 'exclusive domain' or exclusive province' or something along those lines, for oversight of the BOD and how all us peon individual investors didn't really know squat about investing in a cold, calculated and objective manner and [that we, the peon individual investors] violated all the rules of sound investing [I'm guilty of that one!] and basically only the institutions could provide effective BOD oversight. Well, now that the institutions HAVE exercised some of that objective oversight on the BOD, voting FOR prop 2 is your dream coming true, right? Only the institutions could muster up a block so large as most of the posters on ihub were dead set against the proposal.
And what is all the 'sky is falling' nonsense on the proposal? Non-binding, needs to be approved into bylaws, etc by shareholder vote, etc. I see it as a huge success since it would tend to ba catylist to value enhancement actions. And why is anyone afraid of the buyout possibility for "pennies on the dollar"? If buyout, it will get a fair market value at that time. If management has been successful at unleashing value, higher price. If management has not been successful in creating more value, lower price. Simple as that.
Just another "dumbass" I suppose.
So what's your point? I'm not a cheerleader?
I have had my frustrations over the years with thios stock, but in the final analysis, I really only have myself to blame for not scooting out at 80 in early 2000. I think there are many here still hooping for a return to 80 - including me. BUT, I am a little older nad a tad wiser.
Anyway, I do not HATE the stock. If I did, I would not be here. I do not HATE the BOD, I simply do not think they as a group are representing OUR interests all the time. Maybe I am a "dumbass" as L2V has suggested, but My eyes have been opened to what now is becomming routine - failure on the part of management and the BOD. So you don't agree with me? Fine. Move on with your spew to someone else.
And I don't think a buyout is all that bad. Those in the "pennies on the dollar" fearmongering side are the real ones that "hate" the situation - and are the ones to be subjected to your diatribe. IMO there is the fear in their view that IDCC will continue on its failure path and NOT achieve any new deals, be paid for past wrongs, etc. If they had any confidence at all, we will only have our share price ENHANCED from a Buy-Out. Afterallo, NOK will be in place, SAM, ERICY, LG, even MOT! Then buyout offers? Sounds great to me.
Won't happen,IMO, but would be great.
Anyway Art, put me on ignore.
WTF are you talking about. I may not post much nor add much value to the discussion, but one thing I have learned [the very hard way] is that you cannot fall in love with a stock - an axiom that so, so many here violate almost everyday and that I have violated over the past 6 + years owning it.
I would really love being POSITIVE on this stock, but the company has a documented history of dissappointing shareholders. Sometimes it takes a while to come into stark contrast.
Anyway, I am still long this stock, but a lot less in love with it. And I think there is too much a tendancy for the rah, rah crowd to spin too much into many of these things [aka an 8k for a non event, event.]. Does it have potential? OF COURSE, but when that potential is to be realized continues to be anyones guess. And BTW, why wouldn't have Janet P not simply said "we have not received the report" over the past 2 days and then on day 3 formally announce the non receipt? Just doesn't make sense to me.
Anyway, if you don't like what I have to say, just put me on ignore as I am certain several others may have as well. Have a nice day.
L2V, you are whining. Stop.
Maybe they didn't have the right address to send the packages to?
OK, buy the whole company - that value is the patents and that was my meaning.
Yes, they may want to licsense the whole deal. MSFT KNOWS the value of the Licsensing avenue and will NOT want to become NEOM's IBM in that regard. MSFT knows the score on that whole route and will either design around, throw up roadblocks, or buy it out - IF they are going to be the player. Hostile take-over, friendly take-over, who cares except on the price. I can just go or go kicking and screaming - as long as I am going to the bank. All IMO.
That may actually happen the way you see things. I just disagree with it in this case. The 'reinvent the wheel' you speak of IS the essence of progress. The easiest [and cheapest] answer is to buy the patents [as NEOM has done to some extent]. No reason MSFT, GOOG, others can't do same. In fact MSFT actually bought DOS and re-marketed it - at a HUGE profit. If you research the issue I think you will find that most patents are actually bought by someone else for better marketing/exploitation of the patents. I have no actual PROOF of that other than just my memory in doing the limited digging and rooting around - just conjecture.
SWAG $7.50 within the 5 years.
Drmyke3, another possibility [for the buy-out that is] is that GOOG, MSFT, whoever, takes us out then simply 'sits' on the patents to preserve their current business model until they can work the transition to 'on the fly' advertising revenue model.
Koko, 5+ years. My SWAG.
just voted my shares.
withheld on Harry.
"For" on 2
"For" on the auditors.
No reason to let this drag on, IMO.
Yes, the results are important. Just not so important to NOK as they are to us. I am not impressed with the spin on the SAM delay either. Makes me think something is astray.