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You know the only reason your over at EXPH is because I bashed your little TDGI. God Rain.. either you got seriously dupped.. or you were in on it. Any moron with half a brain could see the holes in that shell play. I simply couldn't help myself on that one.
Shitty template web site, half assed 15c211, "big names" and Ihub speculation though the roof. Who pushed it Rain? You think I'm stupid enough to think retail got that thing going lol!
Tell ya what.. why don't you call your little wolves off on EXPH and I'll go back to pumping china small caps. We can leave each other alone eh? Deal? Cause I would sure hate it if I had to start shadowing a few folks on Ihub.. I can be a real prick too.
You are 100% correct Rain and I would imagine you know how it works probably better than me. How much did you front load on that "other" one and unload on the noobs? Oh you want to go all out... we can move this to the parking lot and I can invite everyone in to watch.
I'd have to disagree, but if you think so keep on typing. We can let the readers on Ihub decide who truly conducts legitimate DD. Gotta love public forums!
I own a whopping 385,000 at $.0058. I bought a few for the hell of it. I don't trade sub penny pinksheet stocks Rain, I trade NASDAQ China small caps.
I was bashing a stock you were on and some how you think I have something to do with EXPH so you are here out of spite? I don't bud, hate to bust your bubble. If anything I preach against buying sub penny stocks.. I like JD though, this one is an exception for me.
And to think such a great painstaking write up on EXPH and you pumped TDGI? Roflmao.. Whats wrong bud.. bitter? I like this board.. think I'm going to add it to my favorites now.
Actually that's how he introduces himself, as JD. I think the name "James D. Brown" got him to many jokes.
I think your still about 18 months out from a $20M+ year company. You'll need the Pratt/Food Lion deal to crank back up to reach growth that quickly. Orders could double and Pratt/Food Lion could crank up.. but for now it's better to be conservative and realistic.
You could still say $15M on 8% margins, or $1.2M/980M = $.0012 X 15 P/E = $.018
I think it wouldn't be fair to justify $.10 PPS right now. Keeping it real will limit future disappointment if those larger numbers are not attainable.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080902/0429670.html
Fwiw also, the company was ramping up to do about $22M in revenue in 2008/2009. Then the financial markets collapsed, projects were canceled or postponed and the company had it's credit at risk through Whacovia. They went through a rough patch in late 2008 early 2009 but are now recovering. I would estimate between $10-$15M over the next 12 months and growing to double that should their Pratt Corp. JV get back on track.
But for now..
Fwiw, Karl Malone the basketball player was one of the original investors in EXPH and as far as I know may still own more than 10%.
What's the profit margin on them? Depends, 5-10%, sometimes more 15%, depends on materials etc..
Do they factor their receivables? Yes, they have a $1M factoring line through Crestmark Bank as well as standard LOC's through Whacovia and Southern Community.
What percentage do they pay for the factoring? I believe it is 1+ prime but you'll need to ask the company.
How much do they pay per year in interest charges on those lines of credit? You'll need to ask the company, JD is forthright as long as you don't ask insider type questions.
Go and read that filing that's on pinksheets. The answer to your question is most likely in it. Shares sold pursuant to an exemption take 2 years to become 100% free trading. Take a look a the dates and look at the previous R/S that took place. Then use common sense.
Merging with a Pink is not going through the back door. A 504/506 exempt offering, then a "selling stockholders" registration statement on Form S-1 is "going through the back door". That will get you trading on the OTCBB and be fully reporting allowing you to piggy back to the NASDAQ.
Rules 144 and 145 were recently changed making non-reporting shells excluded from being able to use said Rules.
Don't believe me? Check this site http://www.gopublicdirect.com/pink-sheet-shell-pink-sheet-listing-warning
So, if this deal truly has the meat and potatoes many are suggesting, I would imagine they could afford an attorney who would steer them in the right direction.. certainly not a R/M with a pinksheet.
My suggestion would be to wait for new filings to be submitted to clear up any confusion. Anything else and your taking a huge risk by investing here IMHO.
The big thing folks need to be considering now about pinksheets are whether or not the shares being sold are not bogus as they are no longer allowed to use Rule 144 and 145. I expect to see numerous litigation involving fraudulent legal opinions on restricted stock issuance regarding pinkseet companies.
Good luck with your trade! If your DD tells you this is a gem, by gosh buy all you can!!
You are 100% right about that though.
There is a big difference in a "Chinese Bubble" and an "American Bubble" and it is called leverage. Leverage is the needle that pops every economic bubble that forms when the leverage becomes to great. This major difference between China and the U.S., is that almost all of China's businesses operate on a cash basis. They do not leverage like U.S. companies do. That is why so many China companies have such large amounts of cash on hand and why they, without any debt holding them down, continues to be an economic powerhouse (7.9% growth) in a global recession.
So, the infusion of capital through the China stimulus plan will actually be used to expand and grow business instead of pay down debt service as with U.S. companies. This is one reason why I am so bullish on China agriculture because along with a 20% increase in Government spending, they have almost all but eliminated tax on agriculture business.
Whoever wrote that article did not take into account the economic basis that China is founded on.. cash on delivery. Only in the U.S. and the rest of the Western world do we leverage our business through debt... then hope we succeed enough to pay it off.
The U.S. stimulus plan will have minimal effect as any additional money created will be used to pay down debt in some form or fashion.
I'm not going to be sucked into this school yard game. Your posting history also is in support of the other stock. I'll let the posters here, who happen to be happy with EXPH, deal with you guys on their own terms.
It is listed as "inactive" meaning it has been "pulled". That is why it says..
No Financial Reports have been published on the OTC Disclosure and News Service by this company.
There is a HUGE difference between a verifiable REAL company, with REAL contracts, making REAL money.. and one that only seems to exist on paper. The only thing anyone can verify about this company is someone named "Heather" answers the phone. That my friend is 100% fact. Show me anything else that can be verified by third party about this company.. well??
What we KNOW to be fact about this company...
That Alan Bailey mentioned in the 15c211 filing, that btw started this whole "pump" doesn't even work for the company and the filing was pulled from pinksheets as a result.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?Message_id=39415407&txt2find=bailey
This is a POS pinksheet shell pump... period. There is a difference my friend, I warned folks, including you on this one and since it has dropped a good 75% and Alan Baily proven to not be involved.
So, if you want to call my due diligence lacking.. go ahead. So far I have been right.
Here is some of my DD on TDGI.. many obviously didn't bother to consider it.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=39200332
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=39201333
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?Message_id=39223252&txt2find=tdgi
Pinto bud, this one has a real business and CEO behind it.. believe it or not.. your choice.
New poster coming out of nowhere claiming to own 100's of thousands of shares. Be careful, the SEC/FBI have been cracking down pretty heavily on Shell/504 pumps and dumps.
You have a "good feeling" from just talking to somoene on the phone? I have some ocean front property in Nevada I'd like to talk to you about, over the phone if possible.
Seriously, the next Google? When are the people here going to wake up and see this is just a penny stock shell play, there is no real business and never has been. The ones that initially pumped this got duped along with everyone else and have quietly slipped out the back door.
Let me explain something to you.. a technology company that has the potential to be the next Google.. would not have a cheesy $65 web site template showcasing it's business. The current web site and previous 15c211 filing speak volumes as to the true nature of this pump and dump.
That is a bit ridiculous as well. Let's see if we can trade above $.01 for a while first before we start making crazy projections.
No absolutely not, pennies yes.. dollars no. Let's be realistic here.
Dunno, didn't someone predict the trade? Maybe asking him would answer your question. I personally have no clue.
You are really trying way to hard to "figure it out". There is nothing odd, strange or out of the ordinary. The stock is trading like a normal, healthy stock with interest. It is that normal trading pattern that is attracting all this volume because day traders, swing traders etc.. see value in trading the stock now. They don't care about Wall Mart, they don't care about JD.. they are simply here to make money from the liquidity... the liquidity in turn attracts other traders..
Relax, take a deep breath and don't spend every 5 mins refreshing Ihub.
Maybe to an inexperienced trader, today is a perfect day!
got some 58's
Oh don't get to excited.. I'm not putting my muscle behind it haha. I could flex a few times and show TAKI up though. haha.
Well, when you got commercials showing a cool old man and his helicopter, a cute baby and his blackberry and some old dude talking about cool charts and trading tools, hey, you have the market we have today....
...Full of idiots who have no business with a trading account.
Guess we have to thank Al Gore for this... didn't he invent the internet or something ;)
60 min chart showing bottom of channel here. Lets see if the trend remains intact, or if we must continue consolidating. I picked up a few yesterday on the news and have some support in at $.0055. What the hell... I don't normally trade these stocks anymore.. but I'll dip my toe in for fun. Besides, I like JD.
It would be fun no doubt.
haha.. oh and the MM's codes.. like 100 shares etc.. also message board myth and urban legend.
Your naughty MM's are usually just a group of retail guys using ECN platforms and working in concert to create liquidity and make money. Some of which may be posting on this very board.
MM's are not doing anything. There is no dark secret conspiracy concocted by market makers to screw you. MM's make their money mainly through liquidity and ECN fee's by providing direct access to retail.
The entire OTC market is just retail orders being routed electronically. There is no old man behind the curtain pulling levers like in the Wizard of Oz.
The MM conspiracy has always been.. and will always be.. a message board myth and urban legend.
The T/A isn't "Gagged" and never has been. It has always been their policy not to provide information for pinksheet companies. The reason behind that, and the reason other T/A's have similar policies, is because most T/A's are a one man outfit, maybe two at most. For most, it is not even their core business but something they do on the side. A good comparison is the locksmith who works out of a hardware store. Or the notary public who works at a office supply store.
The reason many T/A's do not provide pinksheet information, is because pinksheet investors as a rule of thumb are not sophisticated investors. They are like a plague of locusts.. some may remember that quote from me haha... but it is true. The T/A simply doesn't want to have to deal with 100 pissed off, pinksheet message board drama queens calling everyday. Imagine if you were in the T/A's position.. would you want to?
I had worked a deal with the company and T/A to be the sole person who would contact the T/A for updates to provide shareholders. This worked for awhile, but eventually I moved on and nothing similar has ever been put back into place.
Pete has not "gagged" the T/A.. to my knowledge they simply do not disclose per policy.
No worries TAKI, I will never IR an OTC again, I want to keep my sanity. But if you don't think some of my past efforts helped build the shareholder base that supported this company through a rough period, well then I guess you are entitled to that opinion.
I'm just glad to see JD doing well and emerging out of the recession stronger. He is a good guy, respects his shareholders, I admire that.
I imagine I might know a little more about the topic then you.
There is your Lowes contract :)
Trust me, I publish news for companies, they don't have access to it anymore than you do. The difference is whether or not you subscribe to a paid news feed so you get the news real time.
No they don't, this is message board myth and folly.
What the Hell Raw? Really? Naked Chicks?
Do you think this board wants to discuss POS promoted Ihub pump and dumps?? Please think before you post.. we have a good thing going here.. I don't need shit non-reporting stocks.. especially ones that are not even on topic.. trading SUB MotherF'in penny HELLO.. "Emerging China Small Caps"...????? What part of "Emerging China" did you not understand??
Nobody on this board cares anything about that garbage you just spammed here.
I'm leaving this post instead of deleting it.. just to show the folks here what Ihub POS pumps are.
1Q should set this one in motion. After the one time Goodwill write off, we could be looking at EPS around $.20.