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Blue, it is not popular on this board for you or anyone else for that matter to be impressed. You are supposed to be DEPRESSED and continually lamenting about what has not happened with Torvec. Take a look at that chart in the I-O box will ya.
No one should take into consideration what is transpiring now at THE PRESENT TIME with Lockheed, General Motors, Ford and others, should they????.... LOL
I'm with you Blue, this could get real exciting for shareholders.
Dino
Dread why don't you just move on and get off this topic. I am entitled to my opinion. Selling another 15,600 shares WOULD NOT "DROP THE SHARE PRICE WELL BELOW $2.00".
Dino
You are 100 percent right mhyland85, the video and CEO update were very positive announcements for Torvec shareholders.
I do not believe spending alot of time on public message boards is a wise usage of time. Best of luck with your investments.
Dino
Dread do you have any facts to support your inflammatory headline this morning?
<< Yeah, a $5.5M dunk in the fourth quarter ought to be a doozie.
When this is proven not to be true, will you admit you were wrong?
Dino
Now that is not accurate Dread.
<< Nor was I >> LOL....
Go back and check your post to Father of Three(#13,881) where you told him "A must sell 20,000 shares' day could probably drop the stock Well Below $2.00"
Dino
Sorry Dread, I was not the one making the ridiculous claim that 20,000 shares would tank the stock. You were. I am not interested in selling my shares. So sell yours if you would like to try and prove your point.
Dino
Dread, today would be as good a day as any for YOU to test your theory << sell 20,000 shares and see if the stock price falls WELL BELOW $2.>>
I prefer to drink from the "shareholders kool aid fest" rather than your bowl.
Happy Fools Day
Dino
Changes to our I-Box have been made once again tonight, which IMO reflects a fair portrayal of our company.
Dino
You can have the last word Dread.
My position was clear. Opinion just does not belong in the I-Box. You disagree,fine.
Just don't make it personal with the olive branch and a shareholder who owns more than 249,999 shares. Seems kind of childest.
Dino
Opinionated and imflammatory posts such as the moderator's << if someone sold 20,000 shares tomorrow the stock would drop to WELL BELOW $2 per share>> are the nature of the beast of a public message board. It is his opinion which he is certainly entitled to, but I do not agree with. There would be plenty of buyers to cover those shares above $2.
The moderator has made some additions and subtractions to the I and O-Box since the time I shed light on this subject a couple of days ago.
IMO I believe he has done this to protect himself from any charges the company MAY HAVE wanted to bring.
You are right, opinion to buy or sell does not properly belong in the information box.
A Sincere Happy Easter to everyone,
Dino
Dread when was this language added to the i-box?
"Likelihood of Commercialization of one or more Torvec technologies: 100%(in moderator's opinion)"
I didn't notice that yesterday.
Dino
I do not know if "seeeee" was a typo or not. You say it was. I believe there is a huge difference between the words need and seeee.
If you felt there was no difference you would have left it the way it was.
Landman, I was just responding to Keepthefaith's question if there was "any real hope anywhere"? Nothing more intended than that. I am hopefull here.
Dino
Nice spin and 100 percent cleverly avoiding dread what was posted in post#13,858. I said nothing about the ten year chart.
"BUY SHARES ONLY WITH MONEY YOU DON'T EXPECT TO SEE FOR A WHILE"
And as you know your original put an emphasis on "Seeeee". Which has now been replaced by "need".
Again your opinion has no place in the Information Box nor should a moderator suggest to a potential stockholder to buy or sell, or likewise a present shareholder to buy or sell by using the I-BOX. "BUY SHARES ONLY WITH MONEY YOU DON'T EXPECT TO SEEEEE FOR A WHILE"
Use the message board like the rest of us almighty one.
Dino
Dread is Easter over.
I see that you have returned your opinion to the Informational-box but now YOU HAVE CHANGED THE WORDING. LOL
In the future if you feel the need to repost a post of mine, in this instance my post to keepthefaith, repost the entire post not a portion of it.
Dino
Your personal opinions belong on this message board like anyone else's.
Not in the INFORMATIONAL I-BOX.
Dino
It is disgusting that you would even bring religion into this.
You had better have removed it because I as a shareholder would have taken measures to see that it was removed.
Dino
It should be absolutely none of your concern what I am, in your words, "in the hole"
Did you forget your tirade to allnumbers?
I was furnished with information concerning Torvec in 2006 before I signed the subscription agreement to purchase preferred. This is standard procedure for any company who issues preferred.
So get off your high horse "short term gain all ears" insinuation that I have inside information.
Dino
Dread I just checked the I-BOX here to see if I could find the info of who else BAE is teaming up with and I noticed pretty sadly that you have added more of your personal opinions to the box.
Dread states among other opinions, under the heading Stock Price, "Buy shares only with money you don't expect to see for a while"
It would be proper and just IMO to keep your personal opinions out of the I-BOX information and post them here on the message board like the rest of us.
Very sad commentary,
Dino
Hi Dabreeze,
LM has teamed up with BAE for the JLTV contract. But BAE also has teamed up with a couple other competitors for that contract. So I suppose if Lockheed did not receive the contract it would be a possibility that BAE may want to use our tech with the other suitors. I believe from a CEO update in the past that is why LM is seeking exclusive rights to Torvec's CV tech.
I would also politely suggest that Ford is right upthere for << the best option for a commercialization event >>
Dino
KNOT BAD
I am glad to hear you are at peace with your investment. Thank you for your reply to my post.
Dino
IMO success will be ours, this is just something you cannot put a timestamp on to achieve the deserved result. It is true that I own 250,000 shares of Torvec. This is something I reluctantly wanted to post. But I was just put over the edge seeing Torvec and kool-aid drinking connected.
Dino
Hello Keepthefaith,
I am an "accredited investor" who has purchased both preferred stock and common shares.
I am the President of a Corporation and a lifelong entrepreneur. My judgements have been successful in the past or I would not have been able to purchase the 250,000 shares of Torvec which I confidently and proudly own today at a cost average of $4.25.
As a Preferred stock holder I was furnished with information with respect to any and all developments pertaining to Torvec's technology and/or its ongoing business, operations, finances and prospects.
I wanted to give you another response besides the moderator's << pull up a chair and pour yourself some Kool-Aid>> to your question "Is there any real hope anywhere"
I also wonder how Locheed Martin, Ford, or General Motors would respond if we told them they only had until April 1st to complete the ongoing discussions. I am guessing they might say; isn't that APRIL FOOLS DAY it is a nice day for a walk.
Dino
Looks like our buyer is back
20,000 shares traded in the first hour and a half.
Dino
Hi Dread,
I am not going to speculate.....
like you said <<how would we know since the whole company has been under a Maxwell Smart'cone-of-silence'>>
Let's get together for a drink sometime.
Dino
Again a matter of opinion, but if I thought that was all Torvec was doing;
"waiting for the world to beat a path to your door"
I would have sold my shares a long time ago instead of adding to my position.
Dino
Nice to see someone taking advantage of the crazy low price here. Congratulations to whoever was buying at the close yesterday and the open today.
Any shares purchased under $10 are a bargain.
Dino
Nice to see some buying 18,976 shares eom.
Mayday, nothing more than likely.
Sorry I didn't get the details. The shareholder thought it was funny that they will be dragged into court.
Dino
While attending church this morning with my wife and children, I was told by a fellow shareholder that the two banned posters here, dyna and sheriff, have gotten a subpoena from Torvec.
Dino
How nice that someone was able to purchase shares at $2.60 today. I am sure there are many of us here who wish that was our cost average. All IMHO
Dread nice idea to mention Torvec on the GM and Ford I-HUB Boards.
Anyone who is not aware:
You do not have to look at the i-box every time you log on, just hit hide I-BOX at the upper left part of the screen.
31,900 of the shares traded AH went off at $4.14 per share.
No kidding allnumbers...
<< real estate brokers don't expect payment for two full years after separation from a client >> I believe it is up to 6 months in most cases.
So at least we agree that trying to sell Torvec is much more involved than selling a home.
I don't want to go into it because my time is more valuable to me. So you can have the last word. Every time you offer your advice on how the company should do things. I feel more and more secure that the Gleasmans hold 57 percent of the shares.
No Torvec was not tricked into signing that agreement. To insinuate that they were incompetent to do so is ridiculous. Anyone here who has entered into an agreement with a real estate agency and has read their contract about sales after the contract expires understands why language like this is added.
I don't even want to go into it.
I think that is something we could all agree upon: the hope and realization that a contract is signed in 2008.
My thought is you will not achieve a desired or deserved value if the interested party knows that you have time restrictions.
Again this is just my opinion.
Trucker you are a very street smart man. You have always been one of my favorite posters. I recall posting to you years ago that we would be going down this LONG lonesome highway together.
My lifelong backround has taught me that a timeframe cannot always be put on a business transaction if you are to receive the desired and deserved result.
You are very insightful with your post 13,493 when you say:
"I share the same feelings as Let, Dread, and many others. BUT THIS IS THE NATURE OF THIS TYPE OF INVESTMENT."
Dread don't you already know how most feel?
<< I will be interested in hearing what all our shareholders have to say >>
I just got word that you formed a private email group(comprised of posters on this board who got an invite) weeks ago.
Remember saying this " please don't make mention of it on the general board"
Like I said before, just don't knock over the refreshment tables. << grin >>
Alright Dread, now you did it,
you made me change my drippy stone signature.
I hope we all enjoy the meeting Thursday. I will be very interested in what you have to say.
Dino
"" Draft the speech as you want JG to give on Thursday"???????
What are you talking about? Maybe you need to set up a new fanasty board for that and we will use monopoly money just for that board.
I think we are growing farther apart on this issue my friend.
Why do you bring up that small investors have the right to voice their opinion just as well as large investors. Is that not just common sense? Yes I am a large shareholder, if that is your point. But I will tell you this, I have never once tried to influence management because I hold a large amount of shares. But I agree that you or any other shareholder are entitled to that though.
I JUST BELIEVE THAT THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF TORVEC ARE BEST LEFT TO THE MANAGEMENT, not the shareholders.
Again that is just my opinion.
Dino
Dread, did someone die and Torvec appointed you CEO?
I would expect you will be addressing your points during the question and answer portion of the meeting.
The Gleasmans stake is 57 percent of the shares not 67 as you have stated.
I would hope that when you stand up, you will be clear that you do not represent ALL of the remaining 43 percent of the shareholders. You certainly don't represent my feelings with your recent posts.
Good for you that you are speaking your mind. I know that is how I roll.
Dino
I was impressed with the, Our Ongoing Projects, portion of the 10-12-2007 Message from the CEO.
Everyone is entitled to there own opinion.
Dino