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based upon the allen county indiana recorders office, the property is owned by flat rock llc. eeso deeded the property to flat rock a few weeks after flat rock deeded it to eeso. flat rock owns the property, not eeso. i could be wrong, but the only thing that would explain this is if eeso could not get financing for the purchase of the property (big surprise), therefore, eeso is purchasing the property via a land contract. problem is, jared reported a mortgage payable to flat rock and eeso as owner of the farm. a land contract is not a mortgage =fraudulent financials/misleading at best.
thanks for that. why are the tax bills mailed to eeso. why is the farm on eeso's 4th quarter financials as an asset, when they don't own the farm? if flat rock is a single member llc, rinehart is the owner, not eeso. = fraudlent financial statements put out by jared, misleading at best.
"anyway, i have a feeling eeso pps is going to drop significantly in the first hour of trading."
i hate it when i am right. signed, carnac the magnificent
okay, now i am really confused. the property record card lists flat rock's address as eeso's address. flat rock is an llc, not a c-corp. could jared be flat rock? did he transfer ownership of the farm from eeso to himself. hmmm. let me know if i am the only one who finds this peculiar. definately a materially misstated financial statement.
http://www.allencounty.us/custom/property_cards/pdfs/020935400004000054.pdf
i take iboxes with a grain of salt, particulary eeso's ibox. tend to be over-the-top and misleading to a fault. i would rather do my public records checks. so far they have made me a nonbeliever. thanks
someone posted earlier, or on another board, that enzymes do not work on viruses. please lets not start saying jared is going to rid the world of swine flu;)
don't think the link was working. try this link, search records online, data only search, input flat rock or enzyme enviromental. eeso released a materially inaccurate financial statement. eeso is reporting assets they don't own. they don't own the farm. flat rock owns the farm. funny
http://www.allencountyrecorder.us/
can anyone figure out what is going on with the farm. based upon eeso's unaudited financials, eeso was the owner of the farm. it also lists a mortage payable to flat rock llc. based upon allen county records, flat rock llc is the owner of the farm. there is also no mortgage recorded. looks like the farm was deeded to eeso, and then a few weeks later, deeded back to flat rock llc. weird.
anyway, i have a feeling eeso pps is going to drop significantly in the first hour of trading.
http://64.22.202.98/WebSense/Results.aspx
can anyone figure out what is going on with the farm. based upon eeso's unaudited financials, eeso was the owner of the farm. it also lists a mortage payable to flat rock llc. based upon allen county records, flat rock llc is the owner of the farm. there is also no mortgage recorded. looks like the farm was deeded to eeso, and then a few weeks later, deeded back to flat rock llc. weird.
anyway, i have a feeling eeso pps is going to drop significantly in the first hour of trading.
http://64.22.202.98/WebSense/Results.aspx
mincing my words again. i'm not long. goodnight, i need to spend some time with the family unit......
thanks for pulling me in. yes, i will continue to sit on the fence and give it a break. lets see what happens in the next few weeks.
there is concrete proof eeso is making product in a fort wayne facility. products are real. wowgreen kits are being distributed. i never said they weren't.
if you don't understand what the naysayers are trying to tell you, don't read their posts. it may confuse you. sorry, that was a little mean. i don't like to be mean, especially on a sunday.
in my mind we are all winners.
i agree with you drifter. there are those shareholders that believe and others who hate stock scams. all signs point to a scam, but i agree, no one, on either side, has presented any concrete proof of a legit company or scam. evidence obtained in a criminal investigation will gather the PROOF this is a scam. as for me, i am just waiting to see how this buyout plays..
yes, eeso is producing a product. i never said they weren't. i have stated in previous posts what my issues have been. i have decided to wait and see how things pan out in the next few weeks. one issue that is really really concerning to me, and should be to all, is newbauer hooking up with kistler and buying a stinkie shell. if i were an honest ceo, i would be furious that my pr guy was working with a known penny stock scammer.
i believe the PROOF! will come out in the next few weeks. i will reserve judgement until then. i know what my gut tells me, but consider me on the fence until then.
could be....
i agree with you. that is my point. has anyone seen that humongous A/R number on eeso's balance sheet? that is wow green. eeso aint getting paid yet baby. wow green? great product, highly speculative......
does it concern you imshredin2 that the only place you hear about wow green is on these boards? seems like all the distributors are on these boards as well. kinda weird. heck, i am in the area and haven't heard hoot about wow green. my sister in law is a "green irene" girl. she hasn't heard about wow green. my wife buys nothing but green products for the babys. she never heard of wow green. could this be the reason wow green is not paying eeso?
i disagree arnold. i heard jared talking about significant contracts, possible buyout and huge revenues. these were not plays on words or beating around the bush. he sat there and stated these items as fact. i thought this was the most positive event to come out of eeso in a very long time. the only problem is if he were lying? jared really put himself out there. this wasn't some stinkie pinky ceo putting out vague pr. he sat there and spilled it. i thought it was somewhat believeble. no one, with any sense at all, would sit there and lie to their shareholders. i for one believe jared has some sense. i will sit and wait. my biggest concern. i have a source that said douglass has not left the country after korea.......
i completly disagree with you jralkema626. if this is a scam, jared will not possibly face legal problems. he will face legal problems in the form of a criminal indictment for securities fraud and money laundering, along with his cohorts. this is not bashing this if fact........
let us see what happens in the next few weeks. time will tell.
we are all winners!
i'm not ensinuating anything. i was responding to another poster who said there would be no buyout at eeso. he was insuating that jared was a liar, not me. i am only saying if jared is lying, he will go to jail for a couple decades. truthfully, i am on the fence.---mr. biggerstaff
well, if there is no buyout, you are calling jared a liar, which also makes him a criminal. are you saying the ceo of eeso is a criminal?
i'm saying nothing of the sort. i said "i heard" douglass hasn't left the country since korea. if he in fact traveled overseas since korea, my source is not telling the truth or is mistaken.
only thing i heard is douglass hasn't been overseas since korea. don't know why.
okay, great interview jared. however, is any one concerned with mark newbauer? he has just purchased a stinkie pinkie shell to make movies. the shell is very stinkie and involves kistler. eeso has promise with its revolutionary enzyme blend. however, isn't anyone concerned that an employee and pr guy from eeso would be purchasing a stinky pinkie fort wayne shell? it kindoff scares me.....
thanks for the advice vero! actually, i did quite a bit of dd on eeso before i started posting. go ahead ask me anything! i even know some things you don't. i never read ibox's. i usually minimize them and rely on my own dd. i listed to all jared's youtubes and the last two investment nation interviews. i'll admit, i was not impressed with jared whatsoever from those prior videos. today, he did a decent job. today, he was a little more polished. i am one who believes negative posts have no effect on pps. i could care less what the stock price is. respect is earned. i'm neither 28 or 25. those are both my user names. i don't think i have shot without ammunition. i hope greener pastures prevail, because i don't like to see anyone go to jail or lose money. this maybe all off topic, but thought i would respond out of respect.
peace
sorry,
i won't mention criminal charges again. honestly, i thought today's interview shut up most naysayers, including me. i want to see what happens.
yes you did interpret it incorrectly. i'll be the first to admit this looked like a scam. however, after today's interview, i started relaxing that opinion. i was saying, why would someone put themselves out there like that for a few bucks. that is why jared's interview seemed somewhat legit from my prospective.
i threatened no one drifter. i never said anything about what the sec would do to him. the sec does not have criminal jurisdiction. i was simply making the comment that jared did a decent job with the interview. i also stated what made jared somewhat believible is that jared should know that if he lied in today's interview, he would most likely be prosecuted and sent to jail. that to me shows jared could be telling the truth. why would anyone take the chance of a lenghy prison term for a couple bucks. for me, todays interview made me believe more than audited financials. evidently you did not understand the point i was trying to make.
it wouldn't necessarily have to be a big vast conspiracy. there is no doubt wow green exists. allie and wow green are customers. allie wouldn't be a co-conspirator. there is no doubt esso has operations in fort wayne. it has employees, they are not co-conspirator. the conspirators would be the ones that help jared put out the lies. newbauer would definately be charged. if this were a scam, you would only be looking at a handful of people. wouldn't be very complicated. but for now, not much anyone can say until this plays out.
also, if jared were lying and other individuals were involved in the scam, all would be charge with money laundering conspiracy
18 USC 1956(h) - makes it a crime to conspire to commit any of the offenses set forth in 18 USC 1956 and/or 18 USC 1957
1956 is a 20-year felony
lots of years in prison
lets hope for jared's sake, and jared's friend's sake, this is all on the up and up. i for one will wait until things pan out before i call it a scam.
18 USC 1348 - securities fraud
"shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than 25 years, or both"
18 USC 1343 - fraud by wire, radio, or television
"shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both"
both of these are specified unlawful activities to money laundering
18 USC 1957- engaging in monetary transaction is property derived from specified unlawful activity
"punishment under this title is a fine an imprisonment for not more than ten years"
really depends on what agency would be investigating. sec can only issue civil penalties. fbi, irs, secret service can work the above
i will say this much. jared came off believible in the interview. he would have to be absolutely insane to make the statements he made if they were not fully accurate. therefore, any naysayers should wait to see what happens. if jared is lying, his acts are egregious enough to certainly land him in prison for a long long time. he is in fort wayne, not nyc. i've heard the us attorney's office in ft wayne is very agressive. the judges do not take crap. with that, all longs should rest assure that if you lose everything in your eeso investment because jared lied, jared will be spending a long long long time in prison.
peace
totally agree with that. that was my biggest problem with the interview. i think he realized his answer was not very good.
not half bad interview. either jared is for real and has gotten a bad rap or he is going to jail. we will see....................................................
yeah - -- --
lots of stuff confidential. are we dealing with a blackwater, some cutting edge defense contractor or ironman. we are talking about a stinkie pinkie who manufactures enzyme excrement. the tighter the lips the more nervous i would be. i guess to hold esso is to have blind faith. literally.
i'm just saying..... all these people are throwing up this and that. we don't have audited financials, gagged ta, yada yada.... i for one would feel a lot more comfortable with my investment if i actually saw proof of douglass's asian trip. nice to see something other than a post on an investment board. a lot of people would say that's fluff. however, this is a small company with a lot of people thinking it is a scam. one insane poster even called douglass a light weight. i for one think he is the heaviest of heavy weights. he's so heavy, eeso had to charter a 757 cargo hauler to fly him to asia. basically, douglass takes two seconds to take a couple pictures from the country he is visiting. has a picture taken of him addressing an asian company etc. would at least show he's working at it.
do you know when he left? did the ceo or newbauer make the announcement he was leaving? or is your information from douglass's posts? thanks
quick question for anyone that knows -
haven't read in pr's, but have read on this board and heard in ceo cc that douglass was flying all over the world seeking contracts for eeso. has anyone seen proof of that. i saw the pictures of korea on the ibox, but nothing else. whose to say douglass isn't golfing somewhere in georgia as we speak? what if the korea trip was the only overseas trip taken by douglass? haven't heard much about his trips. just wondering.
thanks
guy,
good luck to you, as well. eeso is going to leave the train station very soon loaded with dynomite. i for one will be listening in on the improptu interview. very brave for any ceo to conduct one of those. hopefully jared can give us to great news!!!!