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If that is the case, they could continue to do this for a very long period of time (making tons of cash in the process). We really need to get heavy volume in order to end this cycle. What the heck is it going to take? I can't believe that others are not jumping to get in at this price for a company that does more than just exist on paper. Amazing.
I seriously doubt ATWT is "harpooning" as others have suggested, or basically selling additional shares. Two resons for this belief.
1) ATWT is in the middle of an Audit. If they were selling additional shares, creating more cash flow, that money would not be included in their audit that is currently underway. That would make no sense becuase they would want their cash on hand to be as high as possible for their audit.
2) ATWT knows that if the core of their investors, especially long term investors, were to realize that they were throwing more shares out there, a vast majority of their investment base would be gone. ATWT has said that they were filing their 10D and I don't believe that they are in business to deceive their investors.
Just my opinions.
Nez, Thank You.
I appreciate your consistently high spirited posts. I'm referring to your demeanor and attitude. You seem to always be able to calm the storms that brew here from time to time. Your DD is also much appreciated. It got me thinking to contact West Bend to see if I could talk to someone that might be able to provide information on their relationship with Atwec and if they are experiencing any volume of policy holders applying for the Atwec discount. If I can get a break today, I will try to accomplish this.
Thanks again for your work and your sensibility.
early green on very little volume. good news. we are moving the price up on small volume. now, what would happen if we could get tons of volume? i wish it would happen.
Quick, somebody else say something nasty....maybe that is what it takes to make this baby fly! funny stuff.
sparksss, no need to warn anyone else about trading pennies or this one in particular because you have poor timing. Lots of people make a good living trading pennies, and I'm not talking about "you guys that control this stock" or any other. Most of us here have no way to control a stock, we just do our own DD (instead of just reading what someone else blabbers on about on chat boards) and buy in at the right time.
Sorry that it didn't work for you. If you could afford to take a loss, you shouldn't have played the pennies (or any other stock for that matter). Maybe you should go by a nice T-Bill.
Sorry to hear that you let the assholes of the world get you down. Maybe you will reconsider, but if not, thanks for helping to keep things running here.
Everybody knows that volume will pick up next week!
And next week, we are going to be waiting on the week after that.
Doesn't matter, just biding my time until it does. I'm not going to sit here and worry about when because I know that it is going to happen (i might be an old man then but it will happen).
It's not the massive influx in buying that we were looking for but at least someone decided to load up on ATWT at a cheap price.
Fine by me. The older I get, the less it takes to get my heart rate up there.
and just as quickly as the volume came in, it goes away. Fun while it lasted.
volume at nearly 1/2 million in opening minutes.
No need to apologize. That what this format is all about. Let us share our thoughts with each other and dicuss them in a civil manner.
You brought up some good points and if nothing else, have identified some language / terms from the headstart initiatives that need further investigation in order to deterime proper definitions. I don't want to confuse "member" with a single stand alone daycare unit if that is not the case.
Also, the PR made reference to A MEMBER of a particular headstart program would bring in 24K in sales. People need to stop thinking that that means a single location. This is more than likely a daycare chain with many locations. I don't see how a single center could afford 24K in expenses, nor do I see how the cost of the ATWEC products outfitted on a single center could cost that much.
Just my thoughts.
Nice to se NEWS! after the bell.
At least they are trying to mix things up a bit and not be so predictable.
This would be a killer time for Alex to drop a HUGE PR!
But, I wait patiently for this to make its run.
Big difference between now and the last drop....
We are all still in good spirits and there are no real bashers here.
Congrats to us for not getting so seriously negative.
We all know that this is to be expected when you play a stock long and that our patience will pay off in a massive way.
I think that some investors have bought up this stock with the intention to dump large volumes in order to drop the price to an entry point that others would be willing to invest at. It wouldn't be the craziest thing. I would lose 10,000 or 20,000 in order to get an entry point that would make me 10 times that amount.
buyers at .002 is no good to people that accumulated this between .0035 adn .005. Once they bump the price up to a 2 bagger, they will dump and we will be back down again.
IF this Willy group jumps into ATWT, what are we to expect from this? I've not been in a stock that big groups like this have taken interest to. Are they going to quickly shoot the price up a couple of pennies and sell quickly causing this to drop all the way down to .001? OR are we expecting them to stay moderately long on this and help push it up to levels that will make our heads spin?
Any input on what to expect is greatly appreciated.
If you've ever played chess (or checkers for that matter)....you opponent only has their king left. You have several pieces left and they can run around the board and make little manouvers to prolong their demise, but in the end, time is on your side.
So it is with ATWT. Things are lined up and we have the most pieces here. It is just a matter of time for when we run this stock up to where it needs to be.
it doesn't seem that anything is priced into the current share price. It's almost as if an arbitraary trading range has been established by MM's with no consideration of debt, earnings, contracts, float or anything else. Very crazy.
if people that haven't seen the news yet finally see the PR...and they check out ATWT 1 week after the PR was released and see that the PR had Zero effect, or even negative effect on the PPS, do you think that person is going to be willing to make a big investment in ATWT?
I don't have enough experience to answer that question so maybe some of you more seasoned guys can provide an insight. Would you be willing to invest the time to perform a thorough DD under such circumstances or would you skip to the next stock that gets a boost when PR's are released?
Couldn't agree more. It is nice to know ahead of time what is going on, but once word gets around, PR "news" has no punch. We need to just trust that things are going well.
If someone gets information from Wiley on their own, it might be in the best interest of the PPS to just keep it to themselves and let the PR be the real news.
Well said dmondial.
Nice idea Z. Someone did post an install video but I think they took it down because they didn't want their license plate to be exposed. Anyway, if I had the know how, I would be all over your idea.
Or maybe they could not be cheap and buy in where the PPS is currently and help drive the price even higher. If this goes down to .004, the run will not be as long or go as high than if it were to run form a base of .006.
Or Maybe it will be next week.....
I can't figure out why people aren't flocking here like mad to get some undervalued shares. Crazy.
Ameritrade has current news listed under the redhotstocks.com release. Nothing singled out though.
Here are the members of that committee if you wish to contact their offices:
Republicans:
Chairman Ted Stevens (AK)
John McCain (AZ)
Conrad Burns (MT)
Trent Lott (MS)
Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX)
Olympia J. Snowe (ME)
Gordon H. Smith (OR)
John Ensign (NV)
George Allen (VA)
John E. Sununu (NH)
Jim DeMint (SC)
David Vitter (LA)
Democrats:
Co-Chairman Daniel K. Inouye (HI)
John D. Rockefeller (WV)
John F. Kerry (MA)
Byron L. Dorgan (ND)
Barbara Boxer (CA)
Bill Nelson (FL)
Maria Cantwell (WA)
Frank R. Lautenberg (NJ)
E. Benjamin Nelson (NE)
Mark Pryor (AR)
The committee's website is: http://commerce.senate.gov/public/
Nice idea. I was 81. Send this to your family and friends and ask that they do they same.
I agree with you TD2A....I did not read that a deal with Morgan is a deal with Progressive. I've heard others mention that and I'm worried to people that don't do their own DD are getting set up for disappoinment if or when a Progressive deal doesn't occur. Of course, if that is the only reason they are buying this stock, they deserve to be disappointed because ATWT has so much more going for it than that speculated deal.
nice to see that the bid and ask are not so far apart from each other for a change. I always hate seeing the bid 10 ticks down from the bid.
Agreed. I just saw a small trade push the price right back up to even. If we get some new volume from the PR's we are set to go higher today.
I can't figure people out. If ATWT releases any news, even good or great news, the PPS drops. We are down 10% so far this morning. What is going on? Why would anyone be selling this stock? Are MM's making trades amongst themselves to keep us down?
Wondering why we are sub penny?
We haven't had a trade in an hour! No Volume. No rise in PPS.
It's that simple. Until people want to buy the stock, it isn't going to have enough value.
I'm smacking that Ask!
Who wants to join in?
True, but this is the first time I've heard it from the mouth of the CEO. All of the other PR release date predictions have been made by others (some of them big time pumpers).
Don't confuse Alex's letter to us as a true PR. This was done in part because several impatient people have been stirring up rumors. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS....He is going to put out a true PR next week.
Let's hope it is a good one. Release of unaudited financials! That means that the word from the auditors is that the unaudited numbers are pretty close to accurate and may even be low! GOOOOOOOOD NEEEEWS!
YAAWN!
FP80, yawning is contagious.
Even if audit is done, i'm sure Mr. Wiley wants to digest what the audit says before throwing out the numbers.
It is soooo hard to be patient when you know what is to come. Anxiety builds and people feel let down from no news and take their loss and move on to the next stock.
If we all stay in good spirits and DO NOT LET BASHERS suck us into their game, we are going to be just fine and when the PR comes out with the good news, we can hammer the bashers with our profits.
wait until tomorrow!
wait until next week!
We are going to blow this baby to the moon!
Nah, just kidding. I don't know when we are getting news. I guess the only person that really does is Mr. Wiley. I wish he would share with us.