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"Successful investing never relies on the past information..." Really? Then what exactly is the future potential now that EPGL themselves can't show the BS evaluation they were showing before. Exclusive deal could be anything, worth anything...from thousands to millions. Until a product is show? I haven't seen it....or the financials are audited and numbers are shown...this my friend is a GAMBLE!
Brilliant find! Confirms everything I've been pointing towards the last few weeks. Billion dollar IP....like I posted before, "SEC will laugh at that evaluation". That's off the papers now...good!
MPDD waste of resources. If there was "more demand then ever" then we have a huge market out there and a product ready to go...wonder why we can't sell it? Because its useless!
I wonder if we will get a audited filing after form 10....or will we just fail and come right back to the low nothing's?
No product to show, IP needs to be hidden, excuses of why they can't show numbers and assumptions....how in the world is this an investment again? Lol
The problem is, we don't know much about the product or it's market cap. A deal with COO for such a small startup is great. But until we know the extent of the relationship we can't determine the value.
Is the product worth a million, hundred million, billion, or just .07 cents, is yet to be determined.
Hopefully Oct 21st we will get some details other then the usual "we have a deal" but can't reveal anything.
Good question to ask! Dig into it for sure.
PWC is in the know how and a lot of us are in this because they are still here. If PWC got out before or after the deal, I'm sure this stock would be worth nothing.
Couple of reasons people are in this:
PWC
Contract with COO
MPDD
Why it's still an uncertainty:
No knowledge of product
No knowledge of patents
Sales for MPDD
Audited reports
Some of those are in the process, thus we are sitting on the sideline waiting to get some news.
Not much faith in MPDD at this point, so banking on the product to be absolutely fantastic.
So till then, this is still a simple penny stock that's gotten some attention.
I guess we will have to wait for the .10 agains....choo choo!!! This trains moves mad slow!
"Listed technologies that they CAN create"....but no patents to show! Interesting.
Gatsby....you have been here a long time and I agree with your post 100%. Thank you!
What's the product?
Why is it dropping? Come on people, we are about to file form 10....I can't believe this. This is a guarantee...look at the accumulation. Who would sell this? MMs must be playing games!
We have a signed agreement with COO not sure on what exactly but come on...it's an agreement.
Going to .10 then the moon....5billion dollar company, better then google! Buy them now, I wouldn't want to miss the boat. I'm putting another 1k in today....boom shakalaka!!!! This is a guaranteed "investment" but I still won't put in my kitchen sink because this is going to $5!!!! Yeah yeah yeah!!!
Buy now guys or miss the train!!!! Choo choo....we been trying to leave the platform for 3 years...better get on before it really starts to go!!!
Hey hank...I'm actually very positive about the stock. I think they are making the right decision. Im just tired of some people posting the same BS everyday. We have all done our DD and know the risk. There is no product other then MPDD so I don't see how people are so sure this thing is going to take off. Until a Proof of product is in place, or we know the value of any deal, we can't predict what the future PPS would be.
Now that said, I've come upon some DD that helped make my decision to put over 100k into this stock. Sorry can't reveal what or why. But I believe I will make 10 folds off my 100k+. I'm up 540% as of Friday. The info that I came upon makes this stock a lot more secure then what any of these guys posting it will hit .10 PPS by end of week blah blah blah have found. This was not easy to find and I had to make a lot of calls, including Hayes, COO, Novartis, Google, Apple and a few more.
Another reason why it's currently secure for me is that the bottom base has settled way above what I bought in....so if anything I'm stuck holding a few thousand....but I flip frequently so I'm sure I'll make my investment back quick.
All in all......we have just an agreement and without proof of numbers or product I see it as a gamble.
Filing a form 10 does not guarantee anything. There are a lot of processes they have to follow ones it's filed. They can be reject pretty quickly if there accounting is out of whack...no more 5b evaluation, I'm sure the SEC will laugh at that. Filing form 10 is great news indeed though....another level to this game.
Didn't know there was a limit on post, otherwise I could have stayed on the board for days arguing haha.
GL...we are in for a great ride!
PS: can't private message so just posting it here.
Wow go back and read all the posts....I've stated exactly why I've gambled in this company.
Yes small time flipper that knows how to look for value in a company. I've asked for the same proof all day and all I got was "my 7 year old" knows it and you chasing his tail....show me the proof...I don't care to know what you think it is ha.
1000 shares lol should read the previous post before you jump in with idiotic statements.
So I should "invest" because you know something that no one else knows? Insane!!
What's the proof behind that? And let's say they hold as many shares as they supposedly do...you really think people are holding for dividends? What do you think will happen to the PPS when everyone sells at a supposed $1?
This is crazy
Show some real info...numbers, patents, money, prototype, product? Until then I'm sorry to say but whoever thinks this is an investment needs major help.
Oops wrong use of words...meant a gamble. Epgl4life is a handle...you guys want to analyze it to determine what I'm thinking haha
No clue what is coming? Man!!! If you guys know then why not ease the pain and let everyone know...there is enough money to be made for everyone. What is coming? Lol
Research you have done? So can you tell me about the product??? About how much money is involved?
Oh that's right...this company is worth billions lol.
I didn't...I'm gambling!!!
I'm with SB...I would like to hear this as I've worked with IP and patents a little. One thing to hide an idea or invention and not file for a patent at all...another to "hide" a patent....that's just rediculous!!!
You guys are starting to really reach here....only one product has been proven and has show bare minimal sales. My friend owns 4 subways and makes 3.2 million in gross a year, more then what EPGL makes.
For now we have the bare minimum information to make any real "investment"
Here is what determines this a gamble for me...and for the ones that are buying into this stock because of my recommendation:
We have a deal with cooper. Agreed
(Thus I'm here)
What kind if portfolio does this deal contain?
Money?
How many of the product will actually pass through phase 1? We don't know, except for the one in phase 2 with cooper (thus why I'm here).
Market value of this product? We don't know. Contact lenses by themselves will have a huge market in billions but how much of a cut do we get? We don't know
Mems tech....I see the future and am a big fan of it. But show me something!
Financials are not audited as of yet. Correct.
So currently we are working in theory, concept, maybe a prototype but we don't know, and maybe maybe not biased financials.
My list goes on....but I think above is enough to know that this is a gamble and not an investment.
Ocean view...well put. Thank you. Guys all I'm saying is that we haven't seen a product...till that happens, all we have is a agreement contract...which leaves a lot to the imagination. Most people don't invest in imaginations, they gamble in them.
I'm a gambler, thus I'm here and I'm here to see this thing through with you guys. I just have a lot of people that would be investing rather then gambling and I have pointed all of then to this board for information. I want to make sure that they don't get stuck in a hype...rather invest wisely. That's all.
Why Steve Jobs? Because he's one of the few that succeeded? How about the multimillion patients out there that haven't succeeded...why don't you chat with them and see the otherside for a change.
So you guys agree that this is a gamble? Because it's proof of concept and not proof of product. Actually the proof of concept isn't even there....we know there is a deal but please please please give me solid proof of what exactly is our part in the deal? We are just speculating it's the power source and Believing on every word the company says. I'm not saying epgl is fraud...I think they have potential, but there is no way to know what exact product cooper will be using until it's released...until then we can't speculate a future PPS!!! Come on guys...this is basic knowledge.
Also been in corporate C class long enough to know what knowing or not knowing what the product in play is makes a huge difference on investment strategy. Right now this is nothing but a gamble
You guys are hilarious!!!! I'm not looking for help and never asked for any. I'm looking for proof of product! Something that shows what the product is so I know how to invest fuethue
Actually by "we" I mean the people that are invested with me. I have done a lot of DD and yet still don't see a concrete example of a product. Once again not starting any flames...but if you believe in This stock then you should have a significant amount in here...a few hundred thousand? A smart investor would go ALL in on a guarantee right?
Just tired of seeing "it's gonna move up now", "hold on to your seats"....on what exactly?
5million shares is nothing to me, thus I'm willing to gamble with it....otherwise no way in heck is this a guarantee.
Trust me when I say "we" have enough money to move this stock....but won't bother with it until "we" have proof of a product.
Can you give me any insight on what product they will be working on with cooper? Anything at all, just one product where our "battery" I'm guessing is going to fit in? All speculations at this time....no one is able to provide solid proof of a product. Do we even have confirmation of a battery? Have we seen it? Know any details about it? How many volts will it generate? How big is it? What color is it? Anything at all on any product other then the MPDD device that has disappeared off the face of this planet?
Completely agree Conlan. Valiant and Viking....respect your DD and all the info you guys have shared this far. Probably one of the main reasons I'm still around. But I have seen deals happen for very small products, that don't amount to much. We are working with a broad range of products, from stickers with a signal transmitter (running off of our battery) would retain significantly lower revenue then power source for contact lenses. Until we know what kind of product we are talking about or some knowledge to narrow our range of all tech products, I don't see how this stock is worth $2.
Don't get me wrong. I'm holding my shares hoping it's a power source for contact lenses...but always have a little devil sitting on the other shoulder.
I'm up 430% as of today and with over 5 mil shares I'm sure you guys can figure out how much profit I'm sitting on....but the reason I'm bringing up this topic is for all my friends and family, others that have recommended this stock to, etc etc don't have a narrow mind while investing into this stock. This is by no way a guarantee...and if it was I'm sure everyone would be taking out mortgages on their houses and throwing the money in here.
We are all just waiting for some proof...let's see how long EPGL makes us wait.
So I read through pretty much the last 2 years of post and am pretty confident in the company as being legit....but let's not get ahead of the game here. The last deal boosted the PPS a bit but on what really? Yes COO is working with us, but we don't know on exactly what. For all we know it could be stickers for boxing the contact lenses that connects with a server somewhere and feeds back info. Each of those stickers would be worth about .20 cents. So until a realization of what product are being utilized by our partner "s", we can't determine where this stock will go. I have over 5 mil shares in this and am sitting back and waiting. But right now we are just sitting on hype that the product is huge!
No pun intended towards longs or shorts, and absolutely no side taken. Won't even argue it. Just stating what I think.
Maybe someone can shine some light on this. If I remember correctly EPGL said they were already in phase 2 with COO. If the deal was signed in Dec and we have already been in phase 2, how much longer till the product is tested and ready for release? I did IP for a while and saw lot of products go to market, but our phases only lasted about 3 months, 4 phase maximum and that's when I worked for cardinal health. Based on what I know, I don't see this product taking that long to hit the market, unless COO decides to slow it down.
Hey SB. You seem like you know what your taking about so I'll ask your interpretation on something. I contacted a few higher management at Novartis and they stated that they were "very" interested in EPGL's technology BUT COO had the "inside track". They also mentioned that they had 6 or so in depth meeting with EPGL management to secure the product. My guys could not tell me any info on the product or monetary value. But they both highlighted "very interested". What do you think this means? Also these guys I chatted with are not small time...I trust their every word.
And the partners are.........
Hint: X-men...Ex-men.
Hint: contact lenses
Hint: fu$$$$ insane amount of money
I'm retiring today!!!!!
I wish I still had my free 800 meeting number. Someone that works in corporate should setup a Webex. I like the idea of all us longs getting to cheer together for retirement :)
Good luck to all and to all a great night!! Tomorrow is gonna be huge!
Been so busy trying to make people understand what's going on that I didn't even have time to buy more today!!!! We are so perfectly aligned it's not even imaginable. The .01% fear that I have is only of what I have not experienced before....otherwise I'm 99.9% confident that my retirement will start Friday night!!! Vegas Friday night anyone?
When others fail to realize what we are holding, we buy their shares. I added to my green today and am as happy as can be. This is the best risk of my life. Friday I plan my retirement!
News will be Friday after hours. No point in them even giving us a hint....this is big, just sit back, relax and get ready for retirment!
180k bought, thanks for the low price. Over 5mil in possession now. The more I put the better I feel! EPGL
Can't buy anything. Had my order up for .082 all morning but nothing filled. Weird!