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I can tell you what's going on, nothing. It's run by an arrogant prick who could care less about shareholders. None of us will ever see our money back. If you don't believe that a year later, after a fluffy PR which sole purpose was to persuade people into buying while NIR and probably ol' Joe were selling, was released, then i have some cogs and sprockets in a warehouse that you could use to build amazing things and get richer than you've ever dreamed!
Anyone who believes you'll EVER see a dime back should email ol' Joe and ask him what happened here. Ask him what happened to "shareholder value" and all the contracts that EP supposedly had, but were never PR'd? Ask him how the whole ordeal with NIR is? Ask him if he intends to update PS.com or let shareholders in on the financials ever! See what his response is. The responses i've received are F@&$ you, you're a scumbag shareholder and unless you kiss my big butt i'm not even going to respond in any way but threatening. Never good when the CEO treats the shareholders like garbage imo. Where's the kitchen chat Joe? I miss that wallpaper, it was impressively professional!
Even if you want to sell you can't. The company may not be a shell, but the stock is another story entirely. Doubting very much that this trades again anytime soon!
I certainly NEVER called you a basher. I was in the same position. We just disagree over what happened. I don't believe that the shareholders are to blame for the company releasing a bunch of PR's, including the doozy, which obviously created hype and enticed people to invest, then just disappear. Might be legal mostly because the SEC could care less about Stinky Pinky land, certainly isn't moral though.
Whatever, point is they released P.R's stating that EPGL was looking bright. One year later, it might as well be delisted.
That's called WE GOT SCAMMED so they could pay the piper NIR...
Release PR's, make it seem like the stock is on the up and up, people buy, you and your creditors sell and viola the stock tanks and you disappear. It's a shame people have no morality. Scams like this should land people in jail, but they don't.
I'd bet everything Joe took when he sold us out to NIR with the happy days PR that nothing is released and nothing happens in the next month or ever. I honestly believe this stock will be revoked as it should!
It's not hatred of the company, just the idiot running the ship! The company is not the stock. I don't know what part of that doesn't make sense to anyone who's been in the game more than a week. Stocks fail all the time while tge company thrives. They get delisted, halted and disappear with people's money all the time. Show me how this one is any different. Did the company PR anything? NO! Did they eliminate their toxic debt? NO! Have they followed through with one word of their PR to build shareholder value in the last year? NO! Is the CEO rude and arrogant! YES!
Honestly, this means nothing. Joe has bled this stock dry and the company and the stock are not the same. The company may be doing well, but i'm guessing we'll see no PR's to support the stock now or ever at this point.
I just sent him another message basically asking if I'll ever see my money again. I don't see how that's a crime. It's time to piss or get off the pot imo.
Done....
My favorite line ... "We do not manage this company for the benefit of Ricky Bobby or whomever you are. We manage it for the benefit of all shareholders and we will do what it in their best interests as long as I am here." LMAO everytime I read it.
I'm not going to post anything as I don't need that egotistical idiot to know who I am. Let's just say he threatens me with legal action, suggests I couldn't make it where he lives because the streets are so tough (though I grew up in Newark, so he can suck it with his pansy NY bs) and says he'll find me and press charges if I email again. What kind of CEO does this when someone writes an email asking where their money is? Seriously?
If you email Joey the respomse you'll get back will certainly sound like the mafia. He's an idiot who has no problem threatening shareholders!
Make sure you send him a nice email. I am getting ready to send the mother of all "you're a scumbag" emails. He loves my emails cause his ego can fluff up like a goose defending bread crumbs and put any professionalism aside to threaten, name call and cc his attorney. It's awesome to get his responses which never answer any questions.
Unfortunately, i agree. Your money and my money is gone and good ole Joe sold everyone out in an attempt to help get rid of NIR debt with that beauty of a "build shareholder value, all sorts of contracts coming, partnerships," blah blah blah might as well have just said FU shareholders imo as NIR sold into the PR!
Why is anyone surprised this isn't trading? It was a complete pump and dump. I'm sorry it played out this way. Make sure to email the CEO jvalenzano@eparent.com
And tell him how much you've enjoyed his taking your cash! I know i intend to!
Sure, Joe will pump as the pattern suggests he does every year. Just how many suckers will buy on the pump this time is the question. Hopefully, enough we can all get out and have most of our cash.
Guys, they are in debt up to their eyeballs and until the NIR debacle is over in court there will be no chance of any debt resettlement. If you can wait 5-years, after a R/S (which you'll have to vote for) there may be a chance of some money back here.
The company is not the stock here though so posting links to the magazine is worthless. Joe has used this the stock as a cash cow to pay the debt to NIR, but has failed miserably and we are paying for it.
There is slim to no chance anyone will see there money back in 2011 in my honest opinion. Lesson learned, Joe lied, go figure.
I always hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we're all going to be waiting for quite some time before we see .0003's yet alone .0005's again if ever. I'd guess a minimum of 2 years assuming it isn't revoked before then.
I've acted quite courteous when emailing Joe and he's acted like I just exposed his secret porn stash each time. So without seeing my emails to him, please refrain from name calling.
As for a play. I bought into this scam after they released a PR stating they'd be doing this and that to "build shareholder value"
That was the Pump, then came the dump. Now all we can do is wait for Joe to pump again and maybe we'll all get out with some portion of our money.
NO! I completely realize that I was taken by this scam now. I have gotten rude responses in the past though. Joe doesn't like it when you call it like it is and his ego can't let it go!
Never got a response from good ol' Joe. Doesn't surprise me.
I'm sure some of you will say it's because there's HUGE things are coming for this turd, don't waste your time. We all know this was a giant P&D. Now we can only hope good ol' Joe pumps again this September to take some more suckers to the cleaners and let us get out. His racket is better than borrowing money from a bank. He doesn't have to pay us any interest to hold onto our cash!
lol, still holding the hope huh? At what point to you say "damn, I got taken?" Just wondering how long I should wait with a PINK at no bid and no shareholder communication (well except threats for asking questions) before you say that.
Getting ready to email the amazing CEO again. Last time I did he threatened to hunt me down and sue me and gave me his attorneys email too. LOL, what a putz! I'm happy to force him to waste some of my money to find me and sue me for asking questions that shouldn't be that difficult to answer if we hadn't been scammed.
I'm sure the SEC could care less, but it never hurts to report him for releasing the "Shareholder Value" PR and then dumping into it as was pretty apparently done. They can easily see the pattern every year.
It could be years before this stock even sees .0005 again. They better hope someone buys their little magazine because that's the only way they'll be staying afloat. The NIR trials and tribulations aren't going to resolve themselves for some time and even when that's all sorted out, EP will still be in it up to their eyeballs without an R/S
Joe's obviously good at the P&D game so we can hope he spews more garbage right before September again and gets a new batch of suckers to get us out with some of our money in tact.
What gets me is the lack of communication and quality of communication. I grew up in Newark NJ. Not the friendliest place in the world, no one would disagree, but it's no excuse for treating people bad, threatening and acting like a complete arrogant prick as Joe has done every time I email him. He acts as though I should just deal with the fact that they pumped and dumped with their "Shareholder Value" PR. He'll suggest you act decent and mature and then threaten to sue you for asking if contracts even exist or explain what's happening that they can't be bothered with shareholders who've turned into bagholders.
In my experience, when you ask legitimate questions that ruffle feathers, you're usually dealing with a criminal element. My home builder screwed my house up royally. When we called him on it, he filed a defamation lawsuit to try and shut us up. It didn't work and he's about a half step away from bankruptcy and jail.
People who have something to hide don't like it when you start poking around asking the right questions. Seems to me that's what I get every time I ask questions about EP. Not a positive sign considering about 9/10 Pinks are scams.
Maybe Joe is threatening someone as he threatened me for asking WTF is going on here. He's a real professional, you can tell! I mean after all, after 7 months of silence, no financials and no follow up to supposed Military contracts and deals with WebMD we should just be happy that Joe flushed our money down the toilet right? That's the impression I got by his rude, arrogant and threatening email to me after sending several just to get a ridiculous response.
I mean why would a shareholder want to know why he's a bagholder right?
Ya know EPGL has done a good enough job breaking itself down. It really doesn't matter what anyone says about this POS either way, it's done dealing.
And you expect the pop to come from what? The CEO's actions or lack thereof have proven that he could care less. He claims to have 700K in the stock, but I'm sure that's just chump change compared to the BIG contracts that supposedly happened like 5 months ago right?
If this gets a pop it'll be because of a rumor, not because the CEO has ANYTHING. He's proven in 9 months that the last PR, back in September of 2010, was meant to pop the PPS, probably so he could sell off himself and run. My guess is he's written this off as a loss and moved on. This won't see it's previous .0005 levels anytime soon if ever. Look at the volume for the last 3 months. Might as well just stop trading entirely, no one cares except us bagholders.
You know you're in a scam when the folks who have supported the stock for the past 9 months don't even have anything to say anymore. Sorry folks, I don't like being right here.
The government releases that they killed Osama and yet this clown of a CEO can't release any information about supposed contracts? This is a classic example of the company not being the stock in Pinkyland. What a joke!
You're right in all accounts...been saying it for months and the folks here thought I was a basher. Never did get any apologies, guess I probably won't.
Problem is it's done once it's there. You might as well flush quarters down the toilet and hope they back up now and then. With this one at no bid you won't ever feel like a winner!
And the dumping continues...someone must not have gotten the memo that this is off to the moon
Unless you got something better than what he sent me which was a bunch of question runarounds, non-answers and rudeness as well as a threat for asking the simple question about if these military contracts, one of which took affect months ago, actually exist and where the 9/30/10 PR is actually being followed through with as it's been 6 months at the end of March without anything at all.
I guess what I'm saying is I don't believe it, from what I gathered he's got nothing and it rubbed him the wrong way completely that I had the nuts to ask wth is going on here.
CEO's who have nothing to hide, are legitimate and actually plan to build shareholder value don't
1) Not file financials to keep Pinksheets.com current
2) Be consistently rude to those who are invested and wanting to know when they can expect to see any return on investment
I'll say it again, in my opinion they're either in the middle of bankruptcy, going private or this will hit no bid/be revoked before anyone sees .0005 to get their money back. 6 months of nothing after a fluffy "building shareholder value" PR isn't what I call follow through.
Exactly. If you want to be patient, buy Ford at $1.50 a year and a half ago and wait. This stock sucks and so does the CEO in my opinion. He's screwed everyone and everyone wants to defend him and the stock? Really? I mean how many years will these clowns sit saying Joe's gonna take this stock to the moon before they say oh, that shooter guy was right? Never is the correct answer, clowns like that never learn. Some still haven't with SPN# America's Cleaning Company. Yup, they cleaned out the shareholders! Well not me as I sold into the big run and walked away laughing. Too bad there won't be a big run here for me to do the same.
So if you and Joe are such buddy buddy why don't you ask him where the financials are? Why PS.com isn't current? Where the contracts are? How he's building shareholder value? Let's face it you have no idea, so what's the harm in pushing Joe to get the ball rolling? You'd rather just sit back and take his word and hope for the best? I think that's what IBLONG2 did quite some time ago and look where it's gotten him! I'm not suggesting there is anything you can do, but just like SPN* which I made a nice killing on before everyone got screwed, I think this is turning into a giant scam the longer the company remains silent and the pps is tanked so it doesn't hurt to ruffle some feathers and push for info. This isn't innocent until proven guilty in my opinion. Joe needs to show the shareholders that he gives a F. I doubt seriously that he ever does in my opinions. It's been 6 months of no communication from a company that promised a bunch and hasn't delivered anything. If this is still around in 6 months, I'll be amazed. It'll either be no bid or the SEC will catch on and revoke it in my opinion.
As for not knowing how to play Penny stocks, I'd say you're right there with me! Check mate
See why is it that everyone who dislikes a stock in which the company has given it's shareholder zilch, nada, no reason to believe in it is a basher or trying to get the stock to .0001? I could give a #$%^ if this gets to .0001 ask. I wouldn't spend one more dollar of my hard earned money on this stock at any price. That's how I feel about this stock. It's non-reporting in every way. Has not delivered on the fluff PR issued 6 months ago and the CEO responds to shareholders like they stole his candy. Why should I be optimistic? Did you see the contracts with the Military? I sure haven't seen squat, but I was told by the CEO that my tone was disrespectful. AWWWWW, I'm sorry Joe, you don't like people asking questions when it comes to their investment with your company??? I asked legit questions and was insulted and then given more fluff about the congressional oversight committee not wanting them to release any numbers. I call it like I smell it and this one stinks!
The military contracts were supposed to have kicked in December according to Joe, but shhhh they can't say anything because congress has asked them not to. LOL what a joke, seriously when's this getting revoked?
LOL still nothing here. What a fun ride this stock is!
The question is how long to some think? I personally don't think it'll ever come back. I think the last PR, 4 months ago, was a hot steamy load and some saw through it and GTFO before the stock tanked. Looking back they were the smart one's they rode the ride and then got off and moved onto the next ride. Now 4 months and not a peep from the company except Joe's occasional email when someone like myself manages to piss him off enough he actually responds. Even then the emails say nothing except he can't say anything. He's definitely got the Jersey arrogance and attitude thing going too along with a really nice professionalism that makes you want to call the SEC yourself. Doesn't give me warm fuzzy's.
Maybe it comes back, but I certainly am not holding my breath. I think private or revoked based on Pinksheets not being current, no financials, no news of any contracts. It doesn't seem like a winner at this point. Of course I don't have Rose Colored Glasses on like some do. They'll tell you what you want to hear for sure!
Exactly...for all we know they're getting ready to go private and F us all. Thanks for the awesome developments you promised 4 months ago Joe. You're a real stand up guy!