Anxiously waiting for POSC to drop the big one!
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I really like the timing of Wal Marts decision to remodel. They have a lot of new middle/upper middle class customers that they did not have before. Making the stores look nicer will go a long way in keeping those customers when things are good again.
Oops my bad. I actually have Tuesday off so that is good news for me. Hopefully I can give it a listen.
Just some random thoughts....
First off thanks to all the contributors on this board that have helped me already recover some of my EESO losses. I am not as nearly as good at tech analysis like Taki and crew, but I tend to look at things from more of a practical point of view. Now some thoughts about this stock.
What makes Wal Mart important is not this "alleged" order of 10,000 fixtures. Wal Mart could end up being the gift that keeps on giving. Just the good press and exposure that comes out of this is enormous.
Please keep in mind EXPH is coming out with a consumer line of goods. If they have a good relationship with Wal Mart,Lowes etc.. maybe they can get their products on the store shelves. What a coup that would be! EXPH would have a consumer line of goods and build the very fixtures the product is displayed on. Damn!
The scary part of this is that all this is happening in an absolutely terrible economy. This an absolutely stunning run of fortune for a company who's success is tied in to the retail industry. I think that is why people are excited about this stock. How many companies that base their success on the retail industry are doing well now, or better than last year?
It is a company and a story like this that still makes America great. I am looking forward to the conf call Monday. I will not be able to listen to it, but I am sure you guys will provide a good recap of it for me. Have a great weekend guys and gals!
That is a very interesting find musicman. I cannot help but notice that no one has commented on that. "Really makes me wonder" (as long as we are quoting zeppelin songs today)
Does anyone know if the call will be recorded and be made available to listen to at another time? I will be at work and cannot listen at 10:00 am. This stock is already aiding me in getting out of EESO hell lol.
I made it perfectly clear in a prior post that I sold out of my position last Thursday. The q&a portion of the last video was the last straw for me.
Let me ask all of you something. Why not get out of this stock for at least the time being? I think most of us all agree that the Wow Green thing is not going well. Secondly the market has determined that the pps will do nothing until there is audited financials.
It occurs to me that nothing decent will happen to this stock until at least October? So why not try to recoup some losses in the meantime than maybe revisit this stock in the fall. There is absolutely no reason to be in this stock right now. I am also concerned at how tight lipped this company has been since the buyout mess. I really do wonder whether the SEC has had a talk with them and put a scare into them.
I love it! I think we have a first here. The uninformed bomb throwing basher is now bashing the informed disgruntled shareholder basher.
Hey Biggerstaff sometimes smart people make mistakes. If you know what I did for a living you would wonder why I ever bought into this pos stock. Will I repeat that mistake? Hell no. Live and learn.
Could not agree more. Talk options D.D. has been thorough and honest with little to no conjecture. Even though Biggerstaff has been correct about somethings he has never actually provided any proof or basis for his claims.
There has definitely been a scam here. After a little rethinking I think this has been mostly Jared's doing. My gut instinct is he has a lot drama going on right now between Wow Green not paying and the Belmont lawsuit. Chances are there is a lot more going on than that as well. My guess is that Craig & co. have backed off for the time being because they do not want to inherit all of this B.S. None of us would want to deal with that shit either.
I used to think that Craig & co.was involved in this scam I am not so sure now. The one thing that I do not believe is that there is a large chemical co interested in EESO. The one thing I do believe is that Jared is not up to the task of being CEO. If this company is legit with real potential than he needs to step aside or at least bring in someone to advise him.
Full disclosure I got out of this stock on Thursday because I am way down. I feel this stock will not do a thing until at least October imho. For now I am exploring other options to at least regain some of my losses. Good luck all!
Wow edge that is absolutely spot on. I got out after watching the new video he absolutely gave me the creeps during the q&a portion. I do sincerely hope this works out for all of you still holding shares at a loss.
I just wanted to thank everyone for their contributions on this board. There may have been a lot of pump & bash but at least there was a lot more objectivity than the other board. I got out today with a very big loss and I doubt I would ever get back in. I have believed for some time that this stock will not do anything until there is audited financials.
However after watching Jared in the latest video I got the same bad feeling that I got during the buyout that I ignored much to my detriment. There was three questions in that interview that Jared started to get that deer in the headlights look in his face and that concerned me.
The other thing that bothered me was that I could almost sense some disgust by Mark Murphy (another poster mentioned this as well) and I do not think it was directed toward us or the camerman lol. I have a feeling that he is wondering what he got himself into. Lastly we do not hear from Mark N anymore do we? To be honest I never cared for the selective email relationships he had with certain posters and I am not blaming those people either so calm down.
Judging by the whole tenor of the company right now I am guessing they might have gotten a good scare from either us or the SEC. Something just does not seem right guys. For some time I questioned the validity of the buyout now I am starting to think the Jared himself is the problem. It is quite possible that the Lees and Douglas are tired of him as well. If they did buy the company they probably want nothing to do with him having a role in running the company.
I wish you all the best of luck and I will continue to keep an eye on this situation. This may turn around but it is going to take quite sometime imho.
Hey Taki,
Does that include all of us that are in at .02?
I just noticed Thurston's PINR postings on the other board this morning and you are correct Bigg absolutely pathetic. The only time she posts on the EESO board anymore is when she makes some pathetic empty threat of legal action towards the posters that have been bashing her.
As far as the SEC I would not hold my breath. I think this was a well planned out "legal scam". I am guessing Jared and Craig have all the paperwork to back up the supposed offer. I am not even sure the SEC gives a rats ass.
The only hope for a lot of us to get our money back is the supposed audited financials in the fall. For all this company's faults they are bound to make more money than last years 9 million. Hopefully that will drive the pps a little.
I cannot imagine that anything really positive can come out of this upcoming video. The sad part of this is I actually believe the products are probably good, but the leadership leaves a lot to be desired. This kid Jared is not ready for prime time.
I think when that reporter showed up at his office was the moment when he probably realized that the scam got out of control LOL. I would love to jam the infamous "eat it Lang" sign down one of their throats. The problem is I cannot decide who. I cannot help but think the SEC must at least be looking at them. I am just hoping for audited financials (real or not) and the Sept Wow Green launch so I can get at least a good portion of my cash back.
I hope you are right about the audited financials. I really want to believe he will follow through on that, but I have to wonder. That is the only way the stock price sees a permanent upswing and for everyone to at least recover their initial investment. The numbers do not even have to be close to being on track with the 130mil for this to work out for us.
I am not a basher or a pumper I am a pissed off shareholder like most here. I am just hoping to eventually recover most of my cash someday. I have one real problem with this press release and it is this quote,
"Jared and I feel that clarification on these matters will allow shareholders to focus on our progress in sales and customer acquisition both domestically and internationally."
Lets see. No financial statements of any kind and only one contract. What exactly are they giving us to focus on? The only thing I try to hang my hat on is if you total up the Wow Green, Korean, and other sales revenue (providing it is all legit)it is much better than last years 9 million. I am not overly concerned about reaching the 130-140 mil projection mainly because I never really believed that.
I honestly feel this will be dead in the ground if they do not provide the audited financials they promised after this quarter.
Well said Edge. That is exactly what happened.
Well the press releases and c.c. take care of that. Jared could not keep his story straight between them. Never mind how he looked in that last shareholder address. I am just hoping for one more run to .01 so I only lose 50%. I think the next couple of months are going to be interesting.
Absolutely Drift. The CEO and IR person need to be in perfect working harmony. Does not matter whether they are honest or a bunch of lying scumbags they should keep their story straight. This is one of the things that bother me the most.
The only positive I can take out of all this is what a prior posted said about Jared not disclosing the details of the counter offer due to the potential new suitor. That makes perfect sense but I just cannot accept that the offer(s) from Hanbool are legit.
Between the products that we know are real and the Wow Green relationship I am really starting to believe that Jared is most of the problem here. He is just not ready for prime time. Maybe Allie is not paying him on time, but really who's fault is that for not having i's dotted and t's crossed. What do you think Drift?
No kidding huh? I wonder which is the truthfull half?
Yes where is good ole Craig anyways? I cannot help but notice that he only conveniently pops up on the other borad when all hell breaks loose. Maybe if we are lucky he is standing at the bottom of that mountain.
You do not really believe that EESO is going after Bill White or any other former employees? That was a pathetic ploy to try to scare the bashers and disgruntled shareholders. Even if White or somebody else is trying to tank the company and disclose real or bogus "inside information" good luck proving it.
If Jared was receiving death threats he would be stupid to acknowledge it publically. Just hand it off to the police and let them do their job then maybe address it publically. I hope all of you that are receiving emails from Mark N. are hanging on to them, they will be valuable evidence. Everything they are doing is smoke and mirrors to detract from the real issues. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
I am with one of the previous posters .01 and I am out with a 50% loss.
Please do not post an email claiming to be from Mark N unless you include everything....email address, time and date stamp etc.
The globally recognized chemical commodity company offer has not been rejected yet because it does not exist!! How man lies does those two clowns have to tell before you get it? We got hosed. IMHO
I hope you and others like Quinn have saved all of those emails.
I completely agree Bramabill. He did to much talking and so did Newbauer. He built his own case for the SEC. The press releases, C.C., and the emails from Newbauer to specific investors are going to kill them. The only downside if he gets busted is that we have no way of recovering at all.
Honestly depending on how much they are in the tank financially maybe they did not get the amount they were looking for? I'm sure they thought the pps would go higher than .02. Remember once you pay taxes it is not 6,000,000 anymore.
I realize that there is some holes to be found in my theory, but this whole thing is so strange. I am not professing to be 100% right by any means. I am just throwing out a scenario that I feel may have some merit to it. People on this board keep saying this is a typical pink scam. Well I agree about the scam part, but I do not think it is typical.
Did it ever occur to you that Hanbool was jerked around like the rest of us? Please hear me out on this one guys and think about it for a minute before you react. As I said in a prior posting I now believe this was a scam orchestrated by Jared, the Lees, and Craig.
Here is how I think this went down. Jared was in dire need of cash because he was not getting paid for the receivables and his projections were not coming to fruition. I am guessing the Lees are cash strapped as well because the Star Towers deal has gone completely off the rails.
The Lees use their connections to seek out a potential buyout deal with a company like Han Bool. However they have most likely no intention of accepting unless the offer is rediculous. The buyout offer gets leaked or announced and then the pps goes up. Jared and Lees sell shares they purchased on the cheap and make a tom of money and then Jared turns down the buyout offer. Han bool has no idea that they are being jerked around from the get go.
Here is where it went wrong. The pps never went up enough to make any serious money LOL. So they resorted to plan b of a counter offer and third party interest and the pps still did not go up LOL. I will admit I am perplexed why the pps did not go up. Less thought out scams like PGYC that we all knew was bogus actually managed to drive up the pps for a brief time. I think Jared's scam was almost too good if that makes any sense, or maybe insiders in the market smelled a rat.
We will never know unless the SEC gets involved. I would not rule out this happening especially when the SEC and White House are in a "we actually care about the investors p.r. campaign". I have no idea how long the SEC offensive will last, but I must say if I am correct about all this then Jared's timing could not have been worse to try something like this. Nuff said.
After everything we have heard in last few months you think Allie is the untrustworthy one?
What I find fascinating is that EESO never really got the desired pop. However PGYC which put no effort what so ever into their con actually got a little pop. That alone gives me a little satisfaction LOL.
Hopefully a new wave of suckers will come in and will get this back up to around .015 and then I will just take a minimal loss. However I will not lower myself to pumping in order to get my money back. I will just sit back and hope.
How true. This was the only pink I was ever compelled to invest in. At least on the upside back in Jan I moved the maximum amount (25%) of my 401k into company stock (STT) the day after it imploded 57% and it has gone up a ton since then. I am up 40% on the year and almost recovered my losses already. Well you take the good with the bad. At least I know I am not completely stupid lol
What if the buyout is B.S.? That is what got PGYC in trouble. The SEC could be interested in that. I am not worried about getting my money back. I am a big boy I screwed up. I just want them to pay if we are right.
Hey Drift,
Is there something that we can do about this? This is really starting to smell bad. If we go down can we take them down with us? I was on the sec website but could not find where you can make a complaint about a company.Even if I did I wouldn't know what to write. The only thing I could find were forms for complaints regarding brokers and such.
It is quite possible that if the Hanbool was really involved that Jared, Lees, and Craig were jerking them around as well. They held a bunch of shares and were hoping the pps would go up based on the buyout news. Isn't the Lees project in Georgia completely off the rails because of the economic conditions? This could have been a way to get it back on track? Jared gets some needed cash because he is not getting paid and Wow Green is not coming through as hoped. I may be reaching but I will just throw that out there.
Lets recap balihi.
Audited financials NO
Releasing any kind of quarterly financial info verified or not. NO
Authorizing more shares after saying you wouldn't. Yes
Full disclosure of buyout offers. No
A professional IR person. No
Runs around the planet with a drunken riddler that cannot spell. Yes
Conducts C.C. sweating and twitching like a crack ho. Yes
Jared says "I am not concerned about the pps I am concerned about growing the company". That's fine but how you are going to raise all kinds of cash with the new A/S when the share price is .00###? Guess how you grow the company? Audited financials, sales contracts, being straight with shareholders and not letting them find out questionable things by having to go hunt for it on the internet. Trust me if you do those things you will get a lot $$$ with the 3,000,000,000 shares we all know he is going to release. We also would not be as upset about the additional A/S if we saw real growth. Nuff said.
Maybe he is being honest about it basically being a lousy deal for him. I really have no way of telling, but I am far enough down that I will just have to ride this out for a while.
"If you grow the company the pps will follow." Not if you do not provide audited financials and contracts! It also helps if you are straight up with your shareholders and do not let them find out questionable things on their own. I am not happy at all guys I really now belive there never was a buyout. Any thougths?
Yes, but then we would spend the next couple of days arguing over what type of cake and frosting to use.
Good to see I am not the only jaded bastard here. I was thinking the same thing about the boulder. LOL