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It's not possible from that quote to draw any conclusion that the first products have come out of the factory
First silicon not Possible? Total Droid nonsense. Read the first sentence of the xbit article which is the original source for the information.
http://xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20061127154338.html?www.dailytech.com
Intel Corp. on Monday said that the first prototypes of microprocessors using 45nm process technology have been produced.
I think that Intel announced first silicon for the Penryn processors. The available information is vague but "first silicon" makes sense to me. The "processing" if Mark Bohr is wuoted correctly, involves wiggling the pins to see if the processor works.
The xbit article is consistent with first silicon. The author seems to have confused first silicon with sampling to customers.
Wouldn't be a quiet period then would it?
It is a quiet period -- with an exception
The saying that "every rule has an exception" is usually true.
Can you imagine some sort of acconting issue with the SEC on Intel rebates?
I was just taking a SWAG because I have seen situations where the timing of "income" is a real Gordian knot.
I think you hit the key point. The SEC is investigating how Dell handles the accounting for Intel rebates.
One thing that comes to mind is whether Dell is booking a volume rebate when it buys a part on the theory that it will be earned when volume is achieved. or later when the rebate is actually earned because of the purchase volume.
You have to remember that Intel does not have a True Quad Core but they sure did pour a can of Whoop Ass on AMD.
Do you think that Hector still wants the benchmark cage match that he was loudly demanding a while ago?
One interesting conclusion the pops out from the article on the antitrust case is the reminder that AMD is basically a foreign company. AMD uses 2 fabs in Dresden subsidized by the German government and German banks plus a foundry manufacturing with Chartered in Asia. AMD sold the Austin fab and the Santa Clara sub-micron fab when it spun off its flash memory business with Spansion.
So if you stand back you see that AMD looks like a German company subsidized by the German government with an executive office in Austin.
Acquiring ATI, a Canadian company, does not make AMD look more like a U.S. company.
I am confused. Is the AMD 4X4: 125 watts X 4 = 500 watts?
Keep in mind that the Intel processors are not "true" Quad Core per Hector and the Droids--an Austin Texas rockabilly band. But the processors run much faster than AMD's available stuff and infinitely faster than AMD's PowerPoint slides for "True Quad Core".
Intel settled the FDIV law suit with what was basically a nuisance settlement. The offer to replace the processor should have been the end of the class actions but the lawyers kept the actions alive with a claim for special damages -- a fuzzy category that includes the dog getting sick due to a bad floating point calculation, etc.
The settlement was a classic example of class action abuse by Lerach and like minded vultures. The attorneys received $9 million and a claim procedure was established to pay special damage claims filed by users. If Intel denied the claim the user could ask for arbitration.
Intel was pretty generous in evaluating the merit of the claims, partly to achieve customer good will. Anyone want to guess the $$ that Intel paid to users in the first year of the claim program?
Karma Time - Milberg Weiss Lerach indicted for allegedly paying $11.4M kickbacks.
Milberg Weiss Lerach has always been suspected of buying plaintiffs but defendants could never prove it. Lerach filed class action suits against Intel a couples times and was one of the firms in the Pentium FDIV warranty class actions.
http://biz.yahoo.com/hftn/061031/103006_8393127.html?.v=1&printer=1
"Measuring CPU Dual Core Temps"
http://www.overclockers.com/articles1378/index.asp
ATI Feature of the Month
What a hoot !! There is a pitch on AMD's website for Core 2 Duo with an Intel motherboard as the Best PC Gaming machine.
Another hit job on poor AMD by the Intel guys in black helicopters.
AMD is using the Turion to capture some of the Celeron business from Dell's $499 laptops. Very bad news for AMD's margins.
AMD will learn the hard lesson that when you mix cheap silicon with expensive silicon you get cheap silicon. AMD margins will shrink smaller and smaller.
Thanks for proving that Intel was correct in stating that it expanded its market share. It is nice that you are able to admit error and retract your shrieks that "Intel is lying, Intel is lying."
Don't you realize that AMD is down over 20% this past week because of its earnings release and forecast?
And much of the hurt is being delivered by the introduction of C2D which was on the market for only a 2 month portion Q3.
Now that is pathetic!
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=5d&s=AMD&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=intc
As time passes and C2D ramps, AMD will be in a world of hurt. The nuclear winter should arrive about Q1 for AMD.
Trival units plus 50 = 1.5 X Trivial units
Or in other words, still trivial Turion units in the mobile market segment.
The Q3 results of AMD were so impressive that the stock dropped 13% after the earnings announcement.
What is your estimate of the stock drop after Q4 results?
Re: What's wrong with [AMD's] 65nm?
It ain't working, i.e. it's broken
The AMD "sell (some of it) at a loss and make it up on margin" stragey receives a no confidence vote in the stock market today. AMD is down 11% today
AMD's production ramp will allow it to swap volume for asp
Very astute astute point. Now that Dell is on board, AMD can sell parts at a loss and make it up on volume.
How do they evaluate product in inventory before being sold?
Intel uses a "cost of manufacture" value for inventory. This results in the somewhat strange effect that a decrease in manufacturing cost results in an expense because inventory value is lowered in the current quarter. However, the ultimate result is increased margin and increased rearnings when the inventory is sold in the next quarter.
It is ironic that when Microsoft's 64 bit Windows arrives it will be showcased on Core 2 Duo--Not on Opteron and not on Turdion.
Ibelieve that it was Craig Barrett that said "when the PC market place is ready for 64 bits, Intel will a 64 bit processor." Guess he was right.
The reality shock may be too heavy stress for the Green Sky crowd but still a good idea !!
BTW, my source was Paul Engel--a blast from the past.
[H]ow is AMD going to spin this? "Unlike Intel, we listen to our customers, and they demand slow, hot chips!"?
http://www.overclockers.com/tips01047/
The correct answer probably is that Transmeta no longer has product exposure to Intel's patents. Transmeta is now in the licensing business so why not take a shot at Intel.
Investment bankers have shopped Transmeta for some time now. Its for sale if you want to buy it
Quite an achievment. AMD is showing 65nm test wafers while Intel is showing 45nm test wafers.
This article is badly garbled on most everything. Note that "Intel spokesperson Chuck Malloy" as later identified as "Judge Malloy".
The quality of the writing concerning antitrust law is on a par with the Judge Malloy gem.
You wouldn't know what an antitrust trust action was if it jumped up and bit you.
You may have some technical knowlege although your postions on IPF put that issue in doubt. However, your understanding of law is hilarious.
Everybody knows that the OpenVMS applications are toy apps compared to the 64 bit screen savers that AMD pioneered for its X86 demos to show the "need" for 64 bit address extensions.
AMD is so frigging stupid that they thought that they could include foreign sales and alleged foreign conduct in a United States antitrust action. The result is that the largest portion of its antitrust claims were tossed out of court.
AMD's complaint read more like a PR document than a legal document and that is how AMD used it. As a legal document it was incredibly shoddy. That is why the Court summarily dismissed most of AMD's claims.
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What do you do if you're AMD and you have absolutely nothing to show?
Answer: Act the Clown. This has a certain Beavis and Butthead charm but can not hide the Tsunami that is headed toward AMD.
The antitrust training at Intel is pecisely focused on training employees to comply with the law. The "deposition training" is a mock trial session that demonstrates how opposing lawyers can twist facts and make an innocent act seem malevolent.
Say it again Sam
It all depends on what your definition of "loving" is.
What do you wantsaid the chief, Roo Roo or death?
It is hard to determine which characteristic is stongest in your posts. Arrogance or ignorance.