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evenkeel that is what im talking about. Someone is actually doing some homework and not just cheerleading. The financials don't add up and neither does Wilf saying the deepscan will be done in 2 weeks or less. Its all just more of Wilf BS.
Chunky im not negative about much of anything except deepblue. And that is only because the CEO is always missing deadlines and lying about almost everything. So why should I be positive, look at what Wilf has done to another company. Screwed it up almost to nothing. (ALMOST)
THIS IS GREAT I LOVE IT
I was just told Wilf said the Deep scan would be done in 1&1/2 to 2 weeks lolol. Please tell me he didnt set another 2 week deadline. That makes me almost laugh to tears. Im saying deepblue has a higher stock price then the percentage of them having that boat done in 2 weeks. I give them a .015% chance of getting the deep scan done by Nov. 17th and thats me being generous with my stats.
If Wilf gets that deepscan done by Nov. 17th and gets this reality series signed I will never post here again. But I like my chances that this wont happen. That will be just one time in 2 years Wilf has said something and it actually happen. So that once out of hundreds would be enough to get rid of me. But im just already hearing excuses what about you? lol
-B Let me just inform you not to get to excited just yet for several reasons.
1st you said your happy the float is only 250 mill not 500 mill. Thats because the other 200+ mill are still restricted. What are they going to do when those shares become available in Feb? You say hold them and buy shares back lol thats funny. That would not follow Wilfs typical ways.
Why do I say that because, you stated they have 68K to last until next year. How can that last them until next year if the salaries alone are costing about 60k a month x 2 = 120k Thats just salaries not counting permit costs,& house rentals. and thats all I can think of off the top of my head. So that 68k don't sound that great to me.
And what happened at the end of the CC? I was told Wilf dragged it out and once he was done talking said ok bye and hung up? I thought Wilf always took questions after talking. I guess he was worried about some investors asking the hard questions and just didnt feel like lying anymore then he already had? Saying they had enough money to last without hurting investors and saying they were going to buy shares back must have been enough lies for the day. They needed to save some lies for a later date?
Ok chewy answer me this for 2 years Wilf had on their website the float would be tightly held to protect share holder value. Ok so is that true? Look at these numbers and explain them to me. And I hope the company is moving forward they honestly can't go backwards anymore lolol
Outstanding Shares
463,573,270 as of May 8, 2007
488,723,097 as of Aug 18, 2007
489,923,790 as of Sept 4, 2007
494,923,790 as of Sept 12, 2007
499,923,790 as of Sept 26, 2007
• Authorized Shares
500,000,000 as of Dec 16, 2005
• Float
150,801,187 as of May 8, 2007
225,951,707 as of Aug 18, 2007
256,151,707 as of Sept 12, 2007
261,151,707 as of Sept 26, 2007
Hey Capt Ed, thanks for clearing some of that up for me. Some of these people must still believe in the tooth fairy and santa clause I guess. They think im a basher when I state facts. 3 quick facts vs 3 quick speculations
1. Wilf has sold every single share into the float he possibly can like he did with all his other companies (fact)
2. Wilf and crew will have over 100 million more restricted shares forsale by Feb 08(fact)
3. The deepscan was supposed to be done months ago but still isn't done (fact)
1.Deepblue is going to have a reality show (speculation)
2.deepblue found millions in coins (speculation)
3.deepblue is going to buy the float back down to 100 million we can say (speculation) but my instinct is flat out BS
One bonus statment from Wilf is it will be here or done in 2 weeks. I have not heard him say 2 weeks one time in years and it happen in 2 weeks.
So people are angry at me cause I stat some facts, they just want to live in fantasy speculation land. All I can say is whatever.
diver when I start a public company that you put all your money and trust in I will be happy to answer those questions HONESTLY. But the thing is Im not so its none of your business. If this was a private company it would be none of our business what they did. But the thing is we put alot of money into a company that is public so they are supposed to answer to us. The problem deepblue is having is they say onething and do another. Wilf has a bad track record of draining investors dry. And as of right now nothing has changed. He has diluted from what I can tell every signle share he legally can. Which is by selling hundreds of million of shares in the float. Now he can't sell anymore shares I believe until Febuary 08. So it seems that he is doing what he has always done and that is drain every single penny he can by law. Those are solid true facts that nobody can challenge. All the treasure talk and excitment talk is pure speculation. But like I always say the track record and the share numbers don't lie.
MAXJDA im anxiously waiting for the answers to the questions I asked. Or did nobody have the nerve to ask them?
There is always something good going on they can't tell us about. Or it sounds to good to be true. When are they going back to the DR and work on the location that has already yielded something?
Thanks for the update Max
Not another new wreck. They were given 2 wrecks already and lost both of them. Please say it isnt so. They dont have the boat or equipment to do what they have now. Thats why they are not back in the DR already. Sounds like another excuse to take more time off waiting for the opurtunity to sell more shares. They will need to delay things somehow until Febuary when Wilfs shares become available forsale. They are so obvious.
MAXJDA, I don't ask them myself for one Wilf wont tell the truth. I heard him several times say one thing and do something else just 2 days later. And I dont have a pin number and dont want one. Those CC's are a waste of time. They are for the bleeding heart cool aid drinkers that want to hear their weekly pep talks.
QUESTIONS
Why isn't every available deepblue worker and then some not working on the deep scan?
With all the money they have put into working on this boat they could have hired some hard working mexicans and builf 5 boats. And that is not a racist comment that is a fact.
How much money is in the reserve to pay for salaries and operations? What happens when that runs out if it hasn't already?
What are the chances of a RS happening?
Will you sell the 3 million restrcited shares you just bought once available?
Are you going to sell your restrcited shares once they are available?
Whats going to happen to the stock when Kenny Rose sells his 55million restrcited shares?
If my estimates are right Wilf has over 150 million restricted shares that are available forsale March 1 2008
Terry has about 15 million available for sale soon after
Kenny Rose has 55 million shares I think soon after that
the rest of the employees and radio shows have millions more that can be sold in August 08
So not that it will happen but an ass load of shares by the company itself could easily destroy an already beatin to death stock. Is there anything that can be done for this not to happen?
When will revenues come in to cover expenses and do a real share buyback?
That is all I think think of spur of the moment but im sure I will think of lots more.
kamp not much I can do except try and get the cool aid drinkers to all ask Wilf the hard questions and not let him dance around. Most of the people here will attack people trying to ask hard questions on the cc instead of back them and ask hard questions themselves. So until that happens I dont expect anything different but say one thing and do another.
Rooster count not have said it better myself
Let me do a hypothetical for you guys. If you thought you had a gaurnteed winning lottery ticket waiting for you a couple hundred miles away worth 50 million dollars. The only thing stopping you was you needed to fix your car to go get it. You are sitting there thinking man I could be rich but instead im sitting here in a room full of guys and nothing is being done. Does that sound like what you would be doing sitting around with a bunch of guys and not working your ass off on getting that car fixed to get that 50 million. My point is things just dont completly add up to me. They should have every employee and thensome getting this boat done when they arent diving. Am i wrong for thinking that way?
So smendt you think they had to run the float so big before doing all that?
I would say I agree Maxjda but Wilf is a master at coming up with excuses for things like this. I dont think we will get any straight answers just a bunch of excuses so why bother. 99% of all conference calls have been bogus. How many times did Wilf say something on a Saturday and turn around and do something different on Monday? I would say almost everyone.
Seems like when Wilf is in Utah nothing much gets done at deepblue headquaters. But what can you do I don't completly blame Wilf for that but maybe its time to get rid of some dead weight and employee people with better work ethics. If I was a part of something like this I would be working non stop to get things done knowing I could be rich anyday. They seem like they are already rich and got plenty of time since Wilf has an unlimited supply of investors money at hand. Makes me sick. Oh no money this month because we been sitting around guess we will have to sell some more stock aww darn.
-B don't like facts or the pictures arent enough proof for you? Look at post 10652
I just called and as of today still nothing has been touched. Don't seem like they are to concerned about getting this thing finished. What boats are they going to use in the DR?
Hey Maxjda how about working overtime on the deepscan to get it done instead of undertime. If they were busting their butts right now on that deepscan it could be done and ready so it can make the trip to the DR. But will that happen NO. Are they working on it right now NO. Have they worked on it in the last few weeks NO. While the weather is bad and there is nothing to do they should have all hadns on deck busting ass to get that boat finished. If im not mistaken all employees will get paid even when the weather is to bad to be out.
Didn't Wilf say about 3 or 4 months ago the deepscan would be done in 2 or 3 weeks did he mean years?
Its obvious that investors could care less about movie pilots and video games. Unless the game is completed and forsale it don't matter. The video pilot means nothing unless its picked up. The stock price and volume show this. Investors want treasure and you can't get that from Utah last time I checked.
That is pretty amazing that you would really put so much in this stock with the track record this ceo has. But more power to ya is all I can say.
brezz they just went through. Seems odd that that many shares bought on the ask didn't take the ask higher.
-B you got a quater of amillion dollars invested in this stock? Can you post a picture of that cause that seems pretty hard to believe.
I dont think the million share trades were real. The daily total on volume didnt increase. I think they were bogus trades.
and it didnt raise the ask?
Looks like the pump is over and the dump has started.
Capted, Tom hasn't hurt any of the longs here. Wilf did that all by himself by lying his butt off with his words and his website. So many times he said onething but did another. He has diluted this stock to almost nothing and now hes probably doing more lying by claiming he will do a stock buyback. he just never stops the BS.
lol wow rooster you are on it today.
Roosters post so good I brought it back to the top
Totally unacceptable. This in NOT Joe’s fault, not much at all. This is on Wilf 110 %. If you (Wilf) let your employee’s come in late, take off early, not accomplish the tasks at hand in a timely manner to the Company, then it is on YOU, and you alone. If Joe can get away with it, then why the freek not. Unless you have true integrity. (integrity is doing the right thing when nobody is looking). Is Joe really suppose to be completing this task, or is this just another smoke screen from Wilf. NO WAY in Hecky Darn Doodles would any employee get away with doing this kind of work, NO WAY, it comes from the top and is a true reflection of Wilf and how he cannot manage. A boss or a supervisor is nothing more then a person to delegate assignments and see their completion. A good boss or sup is GREAT at delegating. It is their forte.
To me that says either the reality series is a go, or Wilf is a shmo. Plain and simple, and or of course the other possibility is that there is NOTHING on the Scipion to recover, so there is no need for working boats. Yeah it is over for the year, for as far as recovery work go’s. I mentioned a few weeks ago that the excuses would start again for why they cannot work, and they will continue, just watch. Same exact pattern as last year, complete facsimile just the players have changed.
Randy when you thought of leaving Deep Blue there must have been a good reason. You do not like covering for Wilf’s schemes, and to me that shows that you do have integrity, but are now in too Deep to get out, at least you think you are. What a mess you are in, I feel for you, because you seem to be genuine. There is a better way to make a living then to sell people short, and that feeling you have in your stomach is called a conscious. Follow it, it leads to a much better and happier life. Life without deceit and covering miss representation. I know that you do not like what you are doing, otherwise you would not have reached out for help.
There will be time for you all to get your investment back on the next over stated exaggerated PR or PUMP up. I bet most of the longs get or got trampled while the flippers, or day traders cleaned up.
For the investors it is not really over until you sell, and you will have to determine that for yourselves. I can not say what the future will bring, only what the passed has brought. I see nothing different this year then last year in fact, just more speculation and hype to keep you in.
Waveconnect and the sad thing is they need the deepscan to house the divers and they are not working on that either. So how and when they return to the DR is a mystery. I think this will be a bad CC full of one excuse after another. Maybe they will say they are out of shares to dilute so a reverse split is in order which better helps the investors and deepblue. LOL this company just gets better daily.
I think the CC Saturday will be nothing but one big excuse after another on why things are being halted. Wilf is a master at divertions.
Chunky they aren't working any sites right now. The boats are all docked and nobody has been at the office in who knows how long so don't kid yourself. The deepscan is draining investors money like crazy sitting there. And Wilf also stated they had a problem with housing divers in the DR without the deepscan. So dont kid yourself by thinking the deepscan isn't important and also thinking they are working right now on other sites cause nothing is getting done at all. Without the possibility of the reality series we would have already dropped back to sub-penny. If that falls through then say by by.
If deepblue does not bring in money soon from treasures or the series what do they do?
I saw that Gulf. I think that will hold deepblue up a little bit I guess. But by looking at the deepscan sitting not getting done they have nowhere to sleep if they went anyway. I think they will use the storm as an excuse not to do anything for awhile, when in all reality they probably arent going to do anything regardless of the storm. Maxjda posted Wilf said he was getting ready to make this trip soon but I dont see how they can with no boat.
So is deepblue done for the year? No more diving in the Keys, no boats going to the DR, the deep scam still sitting on dry land not being worked on, No one at work for who knows how long. Im confused on what is happening right now other then the reality series. Is deepblue going to the DR soon or not? Im leaning towards not.
No prob ub2, i been here since the company started and put alot of money in here when the price was much higher by believing the ceo. But I still have money in this company and will for a long time so I still want them to succeed but im not going to listen to cool aid drinking people try and tell me something. But im still pulling for deepblue bigtime.
ub2 Nobody ever said this company would be easy to start. But why claim you make 100K a month and could run the company out of your own pocket and yet dilute it to nothing like Wilf did? Why lie about refinancing 20 buildings for millions and say it will pay for the company for years and yet dilute it to nothing? Why say you have side jobs to pay operations and yet dilute it to nothing? Why say the float is and will be tightly held to protect shareholder value and yet dilute it to nothing? I can do this all day there has been alot of deceit and lies so dont get me started.
Waterboy you make me laugh. You run on only blind faith which i guess thats ok. Dont think wilf is after your best interest. He needs us to invest and hold so he will have some money for dilution. Once he hits something if he ever does lets see if hes still going out of his way to talk to investors. Im guessing no. im out of town again so i missed alot of posts today i will catch up later.
Capt billy i want to see the monkey lol
Not all the WT says is true but this is true. Wilf has no clue how to salvage a deepwater wreck like Toms. he don't have the boat, the equipment, the money or the divers. Wilf was just using Toms wreck to keep us strung along as long as possible. he was never going to even attempt to salvage that wreck. And of course he didnt.