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and i am still puzzled why kbl have applied for a permit to transport worms to texas which is still pending.
in regards to the army contract
the Est. Ultimate Completion Date for the shootpacks was changed to
6/23/18
yet there was no modification document produced like the previous 2 modifications
ie. extension to 8/27/17 and extension to 12/31/17
i noticed this months before 6/23/18 and then kbl announced on 6/21/18 they had produced the roll of fabric for the army.
the date seemed to just magically appear on the original contract along with no word from kbl about this in the months leading up to 6/23/18
could be something to look out for with the option contract
the only real comments i can remember kim announcing for the 50ha parcel of land and new facility was
a 50 hectare parcel of land which has been outlined as the future location for an operations center to include mulberry growing, silkworm breed, hatching, rearing, cocoon storage, and potentially silk thread reeling.
reports from vietnam were
According to the plan, the project of Center for Research and Development of High-tech Silk Technology is expected to be divided into different stages, in which the focus will be on the construction of the Mulberry Silk Complex in Dai Hiep Commune Dai Loc district, with an area of 50 hectares.
Here, KBL will build high quality mulberry nurseries to raise silkworms and supply seeds for cooperatives and households. At the same time, the Silk Research Center will form to produce high quality silkworm hybrid silkworm eggs.
i believe they will definitely have employees at prodigy
Confirm genetically modified silkworms qualified for food to meet Article 27
and
granted biosafety cert
Under this agreement, the VSRC will provide professional manpower for hatching, caring and nurturing of the silkworms, while IoB-VAST will provide a secure location to receive, store, and preserve the Company’s transgenic silkworms, in accordance with Vietnam’s regulations.
not a easy question to answer
but i will go through some steps
along with trial results they need to submit the
Risk assessment report of genetically modified silkworms for the environment, biodiversity, human health and livestock meet Article 7 of Decree No. 69/2010 / ND-CP dated June 21, 2010 of the Government on management of biosafety for genetically modified organisms, genetic specimens and products of genetically modified organisms
the regulatory guidelines show around 7 days for evaluation of submission
followed by a period of up to 6 months to form the biosafety committee to examine the application.
hopefully this time could be decreased as a biosafety committee was established for their trial application.
then up to another month for approval or denial
then there is also
Confirm genetically modified silkworms qualified for food to meet Article 27 of Decree No. 69 / 20l0 / ND-CP dated June 21, 2010, (In Vietnam, silkworm rearing in addition to providing raw materials for the industry Silk weaving, silkworm pupae are also used as human food.
same time process as biosafety cert and risk assessment papers.
you would think these will be handled together
feel free to make your own guesstimate
In the same article it mentions
Here, KBL will build high quality mullberry nurseries to raise silkworms and supply seeds for cooperatives and households. At the same time, the Seed Research Center will form to produce high quality silkworm hybrid silkworm eggs.
Seeds in this context is silkworm eggs.
It's been reported over and over.
I posted 2 years ago the plan by the province that showed the dollar amount farmers wanted for cocoons to commit to farming the 2500ha of land .
When kbl worms are biosafety certified,yes they can be raised outside of lab control.
from the july 4th meeting
KBL wants to connect with farmers to develop the mulberry growing area of more than 200 hectares and buy all of the cocoons from the local people to produce raw silk to ensure that people's income is higher than the current crop
http://baoquangnam.vn/kinh-te/thuong-mai-dich-vu/201807/co-hoi-moi-cho-dau-tam-802686/
another report from the meeting
Earlier, in a report to the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development, the province reported that from January 2017 Kraig Biocraft Laboratories conducted a survey and submitted a preliminary investment proposal on high tech silkworm production. Importers of genetically modified silkworm breed Bombyx Mori breed with local silkworms to transfer to farmers.
The company will cooperate with farmers to develop the mulberry growing area of ??about 2,000ha, purchase all cocoons of the people, produce raw silk for domestic and export.
The province also asked the Ministry to consider the dossier in order to approve the policy to allow the company to import silkworms and breed and transfer to farmers.
the positive is that the new mulberry strains have been confirmed and should see mulberry production increase to over 40 tons per ha/year from mature trees.
i was interested in this trial to see the yields of the new silkworms.
would have been good to see confirmation of a new strain that could potentially increase yields for kbl in the future at quang nam.
the kbl cocoon pics that were posted by truth in january didn't look that big to me.
these trial results do not confirm that kbl will have this same issue,as we don't know what strain they are using.
i don't think this strain is what kbl was using.
what this does show is that this is not a one size fits all in quang nam.
all i can do is go by what has been reported after each meeting.
hasn't failed me so far
where did i say they were kbl
i have said all along they are not
but the kbl plan is to have farmers raise silkworms
while the facility is used for research and egg production.
the article was published today
my belief is that the worms kbl used to crossbreed from vietnam are not the same as the ones used for this pilot.
as i have said from the beginning,the 3 projects in reviving quang nam silk are separate.
but i don't know if they were a breed that is proven in quang nam.
i could assume they were,but history has proven on this board that assumptions are worth nothing in regards to kbl.
Urgent improvement of silkworm breeds
In 2018, more than 3 hectares of strawberries were piloted in the fields of Thanh My village (Dien Quang commune, Dien Ban), the first step was to yield twice the leaves, but the quality of silkworms was not achieved. Improving silkworms to become an urgent requirement, aiming to restore the mulberry cultivation and silkworm rearing in Go Noi land.
Silkworms do not adapt
Mr. Nguyen Tuan (Thanh My village, Dien Quang commune) said that in May, his family received 0.5ha of mulberry land from a pilot project to restore the mulberry planting material area co-operated by Dien Quang Agriculture Cooperative. Hoi An Silk Joint Stock Company implemented. Initially, mulberry trees give a high yield of leaves, averaging 2-3 times of traditional mulberry varieties, but on the contrary, silkworms do not meet, much loss, survival rate is about 20%. Last year, due to late planting, Mr. Tuan only managed to produce 2 litters of silkworms with about 60kg of cocoons, with a selling price of VND 150,000 / kg, his family earned more than VND 9 million. "The reason for living silkworms is low because I imported seeds from Hanoi without climate in Quang Nam. Secondly, mulberry seedlings are also new, so usually through the 7th day since silkworm eggs start to die, the ones that are alive with cocoons are not of good quality, most of them are small.
Surveying mulberry growing households under the pilot project to restore the mulberry planting material area on the land of Dien Quang commune, most acknowledged that the silkworm does not meet the expected quality due to not adapting to Quang Nam climate. According to Mr. Nguyen Duc Thanh - Chairman of the Board, Director of Dien Quang Agricultural Cooperative, on average, each year, he can make 9 silkworms but due to the last year of late mulberry planting, the households participating in the project have not really prepared and focused. For strawberry, only 2 batches can be done, the output is not as good as it is. "Last year, as I tested, the cooperative will change its breed to Chinese silkworm eggs in the near future. Currently only Chinese silkworm eggs are the best. Last year, I worked as a breed of the Central Mulberry Research Center but they did not like the silkworm breed, low cocoon yield. This April I will put the variety on Bao Loc (Lam Dong province) instead.
Improve the quality of silkworm eggs
The golden age of Go Noi mulberry took place nearly 30 years ago, almost every house is growing mulberry and raising silkworms. Only in the period from 1987 to 1992, each year Dien Quang commune exported to the market nearly 20 tons of silk. However, during the period of 1993 to 1996, the area of ??mulberry cultivation narrowed. In May, 2014, the pilot project to restore the silkworm breeding area raw material by the Dien Quang Agricultural Cooperative in collaboration with Hoi An Silk Joint Stock Company began to implement on an area of ??3 hectares, about 10 households of 2 villages Thanh My and Ben Den Tay (Dien Quang commune) participated in the project. The project not only opens new directions, creates livelihoods and income for people but also expects to restore mulberry planting, silkworm raising, silk weaving in Go Noi land into reality. Mr. Nguyen Duc Thanh affirmed, If the breeding silkworm can be overcome, farmers can be assured of the job because the output market of cocoons has been ensured. Especially, the effectiveness of mulberry trees is 5 - 10 times higher than other crops and rice. Not to mention strawberries are very "clean" plants for the environment because they do not use pesticides. At the same time, it also has a great effect on land protection, each season of flooding mulberry trees lay down to embrace the soil and accumulate silt, preventing landslides.
According to Mr. Le Thai Vu - Chairman of the Board, General Director of Hoi An Silk JSC, because silkworm eggs are not well adapted to the climate of Quang Nam, leading to weak resistance and loss. "Now I want to know how effective the project is to wait for this April when new varieties are brought from Bao Loc, Lam Dong to replace" - Mr. Vu shared. Mr. Vu also said that soon Japanese experts will come to Vietnam to help develop silkworm breeding eggs to control the seed source independently of Chinese eggs. In the next time, besides using Chinese silkworm varieties to increase production efficiency, we have to produce seeds based on Japanese technical support to control varieties. The Japanese used to help Brasill and Thailand with silkworms, most successful so I had to ask them. Expected October.
http://baoquangnam.vn/kinh-te/nong-nghiep-nong-thon/201904/cap-thiet-cai-thien-giong-tam-847077/
anyone want to still claim these were kbl eggs lol
20% survival rate
no mention of kbl to help
what will kbl survival rate be when they are not in a controlled environment in hanoi.
what is the current survival rate.
now been 4 months since eggs arrived
My main focus will be if the April extension request has been pushed back again.
it's amazing that a province that only had 12ha of mulberry growing could suddenly expand to 2500ha and not one single report has been made of this massive expansion.
not one,zilch, nothing, nada.
the latest report on quang nam mulberry is this.
the original pilot that some said was connected to kbl,and proven it wasn't.
http://baoquangnam.vn/kinh-te/nong-nghiep-nong-thon/201902/chuan-bi-mua-dau-moi-tren-dat-bai-boi-839837/
Prepare a new mulberry season on the mudflats
Tuesday, February 19, 2019
Through the cold rainy days, the mulberry tree on Go Noi beach (Dien Ban) gradually leaves its leaves and is cleared by farmers, cutting the roots starting for the new crop.
Over the winter the shrubbery will be cut off to prepare the new crop
Over the winter, the mulberry trees are cut down to prepare the new crop. Photo: VINH LOC
From the early morning, Mr. Nguyen Tuan (Thanh My hamlet, Dien Quang commune, Dien Ban town) and 3 workers have all turned out to clear 1.5 strawberry original samples, starting a new strawberry crop. "Normally after October or November, the lunar calendar will have no leaves, so it must be cut to the root, so that the tree will crack the leaves evenly, but last year because the strawberries were planted late, so I cut them late" - Mr. Tuan explained.
The roots of Mr. Tuan's strawberries are about 8 months old. They are planted according to a pilot project to restore the mulberry planting material area, cooperated by Dien Quang Agriculture Cooperative (Cooperative) and Silk Silk JSC. Hoi An is implemented on an area of ??3 hectares in Thanh My village mudflats. Mr. Tuan is one of 10 farmers in Thanh My and Ben Den Tay villages, Dien Quang commune selected to implement.
Although mulberry leaves have high productivity, but because cocoon varieties do not reach, in the first year, Mr. Tuan can only make 2 silkworms (2 litters), earning about 7 million VND. "Last year seemed to be unsatisfactory, and luckily, the trunk was sold to Hoang Mai Company (Duy Xuyen) to buy seedlings (VND 3,000 / sign), so it also helped. This year, we have to change cocoon varieties from Lam Dong.
Go Noi was once known as the capital of mulberry. The golden age of Go Noi mulberry took place nearly 30 years ago, almost every house is growing mulberry to raise silkworms, at least 1-2 ha, many growers sometimes up to hundreds of hectares. Only in the period 1987 - 1992, every year Dien Quang commune exported to the market nearly 20 tons of silk, in the village always busy with the sound of weaving silk. However, in the period of 1993 - 1996, the area of ??mulberry cultivation narrowed.
Strawberry stems are gathered to sell to Hoang Mai Company to make cuttings
People gather strawberries to sell to Hoang Mai Company to make cuttings. Photo: VINH LOC
In order to revive the craft village, in June, 2014, Dien Quang Agricultural Cooperative cooperated with Dien Quang Commune People's Committee to allocate land to farmers who grow mulberry for silkworms on an area of ??3 ha. Mr. Nguyen Duc Thanh - Chairman of the Board and Director of Dien Quang Agricultural Cooperative affirmed that mulberry cultivation is very healthy, when the season is only about 7 days, but the effect is 5 - 10 times higher than the crops and rice. In particular, mulberry trees are very "clean" plants for the environment because they do not use pesticides. Not to mention, the tree has a great effect in protecting the land, each season floods the mulberry tree lying down to embrace the soil and accumulate silt, preventing landslides.
“On average, a year of mulberry trees is picked 9 times (9 sugarcane), but due to the last year of late planting, some households have not really prepared and focused on strawberries, so they only harvest 2 sugarcane with about 240 cocoons , although not much, it was good at first. In the near future, we will study more diverse products from mulberry trees such as strawberry leaf tea processing; Strawberry root, strawberry body soaked in alcohol help calm, especially for the elderly "- Mr. Thanh shared.
According to Mr. Thanh, after cutting close to the root, mulberry cracks up, the growers only choose the good sprouts (about 5 sprouts), the rest is removed to make the strawberry tree the strongest. Currently many companies in Binh Dinh, Nha Trang, Quang Ngai ... register to buy cocoons but cooperatives are not enough to provide. "It can be affirmed, now the output market is not lacking. Even in Bao Loc (Lam Dong) the cocoon price was 200,000 VND / kilo, even if I raised cocoons to sell silkworm chrysalis at 80,000 VND per kilo, but I did not do spiritual work. Last year, as a start-up, this year will focus on strengthening, including research to expand plantation areas "- Mr. Thanh said.
Lol,not even close to that amount right now.
Those figures are for phase 3.
somebody must know something
oohh that's right,they only say that when it rises .003 lol
time to dig up some more years old articles that have nothing to do with kbl
must of got it at the gap lol
I'm guessing it wasn't a jacket like the one you posted.
Did this jacket have the same patch on it,or embroidered or was it a pin with a similar design but not exact to the one you posted.
that's a very odd photo
never seen that before,but have seen the patch
the picture quality of the patch compared to the jacket and floor doesn't seem to match along with positioning.
I've never seen that patch with only 1 white section,that looks really off.
and i thought the spiders head was on top and body below.
movement everywhere
very odd
Currently, there are 5 hectares of mulberry cultivation in Dien Quang to serve the development of new hybrid silkworms. Jon Rice said Bombyx Mori silkworms were approved by the US Department of Agriculture's Inspection Bureau. And now, they are waiting for the results of verification from the Ministry of Science and Technology, Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development of Vietnam to be directly imported into Vietnam.
http://baoquangnam.vn/kinh-te/thuong-mai-dich-vu/201807/co-hoi-moi-cho-dau-tam-802686/
the meeting in july
not my opinion,he states estimate.
get yourself a better translator
yeah,3000ha of mulberry popped up over night and not one single news outlet reported it.
do you understand how long it takes to bulldoze 3000ha
lol
future estimated 3000-5000
not currently planted
Yep,I can confirm a silk project meeting on August 1st 2018.
None so far for 2019
"The army contract was pr'd the day it was signed"
No,it was announced 2 weeks after signing.
Which is about the average time it takes kbl to announce army contract updates .
i don't know if warwick do spinning.
Filament silk, also known as ‘reeled’, is the highest quality silk thread and is extremely white and shiny. You will find it comes from only perfectly shaped cocoons that are then used in a reeling process. If you are using silk thread, you can tell if it is filament by pulling a small strand. If the rest of thread pulls back, it is filament. Silk filament thread is made from long connected silk fibers, which are reeled from cocoons to produce a beautiful, flawless thread. Pure silk fabrics are made from either silk filament or spun silk – or a mixture of both. When it comes to a single thread, it will be either silk filament or spun silk.
Not all silk filament can be used for reeled silk. The weak filament that remains after the reeling process (as well as any damaged, discoloured, or imperfectly shaped cocoons) then becomes raw material for ivory coloured spun silk. The shorter strands of silk are often used for spinning silk. These are combined with other fabrics such as cotton and linen. Spun silk is a bunch of small filaments put together to create one long strand. The shorter fibers as well as the spinning process give the thread a slightly twisted, rope-like look. Spun silk thread doesn’t have the same qualities as silk filament thread. Compared to filament or reeled, spun silk is a lot weaker and can tend to become fuzzy over time. However, it is noticeably less expensive.
https://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?id=102877
KRAIG BIOCRAFT LABORATORIES (KBL) PLEASE IMPORT VARIETIES OF GENETIC VARIETIES FOR EXAMINATION IN VIETNAM
Vietseri - On October 5, 2018, the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development issued the document No. 7776 / BNN-CN to respond to the request of Quang Nam Provincial People's Committee to apply for permission to import Than Ky Textile One Member Co., Ltd. silkworms for incubation and rearing in Vietnam
According to the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development, the policy of applying technical and high-tech advances to agriculture by Quang Nam People's Committee to restore the traditional traditional mulberry cultivation is appropriate. The Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development agrees with the proposal of Quang Nam Provincial People's Committee to let Than Ky Textile One Member Co., Ltd. import genetic specimens of genetically modified silkworm under the project "Genetically Modified Silk" by Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Company (KBL) United States studies hybrid breeding, pilot trials in Quang Nam province.
The Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development also proposed Quang Nam Provincial People's Committee to closely supervise the process of testing genetically modified silkworm breeding of Than Ky Textile Company Limited in accordance with the State's regulations, which need to be ensured. perform some of the following tasks:
1) License for testing genetically modified organisms issued by the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development for genetically modified silkworms meeting Articles 18 and 40 of Decree No. 69 / 20I0 / ND-CP dated June 21, 2010; ensure that genetically modified silkworm origin documents imported into Vietnam for testing have been permitted by the exporting country (US) for use with the same purpose within the territory of the United States to meet point d Clause 2 Article 18 Decree No. 69/2010 / ND-CP dated June 21, 2010;
2) Risk assessment report of genetically modified silkworms for the environment, biodiversity, human health and livestock meet Article 7 of Decree No. 69/2010 / ND-CP dated June 21, 2010 of the Government on management of biosafety for genetically modified organisms, genetic specimens and products of genetically modified organisms
3) Decision on recognition of the facility for testing genetically modified silkworms of the registration organization, meeting Article 16 of Decree No. 69 / 20l0 / ND-CP dated June 21, 2010. (At present, the Central Research Center for Mulberry has not been recognized by the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development as qualified as a basis for testing genetically modified organisms);
Confirm genetically modified silkworms qualified for food to meet Article 27 of Decree No. 69 / 20l0 / ND-CP dated June 21, 2010, (In Vietnam, silkworm rearing in addition to providing materials for the industry Silk weaving, silkworm pupae are also used as human food.
4) Implementing the provisions of Article 4 of Decree No. 123 / 20l8 / ND-CP dated 17 September 2018 of the Government on amending and supplementing a number of decrees and regulations on investment and business conditions in Agriculture sector.
The Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development requests the Quang Nam People's Committee to guide and supervise Than Ky Textile One Member Limited Company and organize the registration of assay to strictly comply with the State's regulations on management of modified organisms. genes.
http://vietseri.vn/Chi-tiet-tin/Tin-tuc/11767/kraig-biocraft-laboratories-kbl-xin-nhap-khau-giong-tam-bien-doi-gen-de-nuoi-khao-nghiem-tai-viet-nam